At least two die amid cold weather

[Bangkok Barry 9,105]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Clearly you have never been in the far north of Thailand.

There are people living in the mountains, no electric, no money, no work, rely on hand outs.

I lived in 1 such village 9 years ago.... Nong Kao  Klang, only electric was at the school ( solar ).

The extreme poverty was there for all to see.

These people never had 100 baht to buy warm clothing.

 

I've lived in Thailand for around 26 years and am fully aware of the extreme poverty that exists in some areas. But as I wrote after the post you are responding to, I find it hard to believe that a collection of villagers, friends, family can't scrape between them 100 baht. At the same time, if some are living in such extreme conditions where they can die of cold, have no work, no electric, they could move to where it is warmer in winter, where there might be work rather than have no chance of it, where electric light is available. It's called motivation and ambition. It might sound harsh, but what is their alternative? If they don't try then they remain in poverty and misery.

[ChipButty 15,513]

The weather has definitely changed here in Phuket at night is cold normally our bedroom is like a greenhouse having had the sun on it from about 11 am, Just recently I've been turning the aircon off, the midget is freezing and we have a quilt on the bed.

 

I think I'll put in a claim to the social for heating allowance

[colinneil 74,050]

30 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

I've lived in Thailand for around 26 years and am fully aware of the extreme poverty that exists in some areas. But as I wrote after the post you are responding to, I find it hard to believe that a collection of villagers, friends, family can't scrape between them 100 baht. At the same time, if some are living in such extreme conditions where they can die of cold, have no work, no electric, they could move to where it is warmer in winter, where there might be work rather than have no chance of it, where electric light is available. It's called motivation and ambition. It might sound harsh, but what is their alternative? If they don't try then they remain in poverty and misery.

You have absolutely no understanding of the poverty that exists in some places here.

Did you not read my post?

Hilltribe people, no money no jobs, no chance of moving  to get jobs, no Thai ID. cards.

Even if they could get work, nearest place Mae Hong Son, 39 ks away on dirt track roads.

How can they move somewhere warmer? The government does not allow them free movement.

So please stop with your comments about motivation and ambition, because they are not allowed any.

[ChipButty 15,513]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Clearly you have never been in the far north of Thailand.

There are people living in the mountains, no electric, no money, no work, rely on hand outs.

I lived in 1 such village 9 years ago.... Nong Kao  Klang, only electric was at the school ( solar ).

The extreme poverty was there for all to see.

These people never had 100 baht to buy warm clothing.

When I first moved to Thailand I lived in Bangkok I wanted to do a few trips, I dont know why but I always ended up going north, one friend I had made told me she was going home for a week somewhere north of Buriram I cant even remember the name of the village.

I suggested I rent a car and we'll drive and she can show me around plus I can see the country side stop off here and there.

A few times she mentioned her parents home is not like my apartment, no problem we booked a hotel in Buriram then travel to her village, Similar to what you described no electric, people living in tin shacks one road ran through the village everything else was dirt tracks.

Obviously no government help around there and quiet a few other places I have visited in the north

 

[ChipButty 15,513]

13 minutes ago, colinneil said:

You have absolutely no understanding of the poverty that exists in some places here.

Did you not read my post?

Hilltribe people, no money no jobs, no chance of moving  to get jobs, no Thai ID. cards.

Even if they could get work, nearest place Mae Hong Son, 39 ks away on dirt track roads.

How can they move somewhere warmer? The government does not allow them free movement.

So please stop with your comments about motivation and ambition, because they are not allowed any.

The government even have a name for them "Stateless"

[spidermike007 36,942]

16 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

I've often seen thick padded winter jackets on sale in the local market for 100 baht or so. I have no idea how they are sold so cheap, but they aren't hard to find. No reason for anyone to freeze to death if they simply organise themselves.

 

I don't want to seem cold, or unsympathetic, but it is likely these guys who "froze to death" had enough money to buy cigarettes, or booze. So, why not 100 baht for a jacket, or 250 for a quilt?

[Orton Rd 16,177]

Surely hill tribe people can light fires, attributing heart attacks and deaths from ulcers caused by the 'cold' is the usual daft reporting we see every time the temp goes under 20 degrees.

Edited Friday at 04:13 AM by Orton Rd

[MJCM 3,191]

On 1/13/2021 at 9:30 PM, billd766 said:

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One thing I do miss from the UK is a hot water bottle.

 

They are non existent here in rural Kamphaeng Phet but they are a good thing for warding off the cold.

 

 

 

Have a look here: https://www.lazada.co.th/products/hot-water-bottle-700-1-i1844896767-s5602162908.html

 

92 THb + 22 THB delivery fee

[Jimbo53 437]

On 1/13/2021 at 1:07 PM, TooBigToFit said:

I wonder how cold the northern hemisphere is this year. It seems a lot colder than it has been in years. I suspect we will hear of a lot more about deaths from the cold this season and it won't just be from Thailand.

Why wonder..have you not heard of Google?

[TooBigToFit 1,249]

2 hours ago, Jimbo53 said:

Why wonder..have you not heard of Google?

Post me a link. Maybe you have a good site for this information.