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Thailand says on track to use Sinovac vaccine, despite trial data


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The 50% number is from front line medical workers and might not be so bad. The data in reduction in hospitalisations and preventing severe infections is much more impressive. I don't much care to get asymptomatic disease.....but as a vulnerable, I don't want severe disease or the costs of hospitalisation.

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15 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Says in the daily mail today it's only 50% effective, the worst of the lot by a long way

50% effective in preventing very mild symptoms, 100% effective in preventing viral pneumonia, which was also written in Brazilian report but western media decided to remove from articles. The reason why Turkish and Brazilian results vary so much (with Turkish research marking it as around 90% effective) is that Turkish were only listing those with moderate to severe symptoms, but mild symptoms were not included. Brazil included all.

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14 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

After taking the vaccine nobody got seriously ill or died.

That's as impressive as the other three.

It would also tick boxes that some of the others don't.

 

Most of the people using Sinovac are in China. China has not released all the information on this vaccine. Honestly, do you think they are being open on the adverse reactions?

Who knows if it even works?

 

I will wait for Moderna or  Pfizer BioNtech thank you. Maybe Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) one dose product if it is available next month. 

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1 hour ago, Bangyai said:

Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old.

 

new and newer.     keep the lockdowns.     censor those who have opposing views.  label them all

as crazy.       hmmmmmm     velly interesting 

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2 hours ago, Bangyai said:

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

 

That saying is applicable to viruses and bacteria also.

 

Not finishing a course of anti biotics strengthens the diseases resistance to them.

 

Rolling out vaccines of unproven effectiveness will surely cause the virus to mutate and strengthen.

 

By rushing things it could turn out that the result will be making the situation worse rather than better.

 

Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old.

That is worrisome. A vaccine with very low efficacy, made from the SARS-2 virus itself like Sinovac's, could more easily pass on mutated strains to others.

 

Evidence. Researchers say that multiple simultanious mutations, like the UK strain, likely arise from failed treatments with convalescent plasma or drugs like Remdesivir.

 

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15 hours ago, kickstart said:

The BBC has been on this all day ,this Chinese vaccsin is only  50%  effective ,which you could say is about right ,as we have been told vaccines normal take years to research ,test and then produce ,

All these  vaccines have been researched, tested ? and produced in a matter of a few months, they were bound to be a few problems ,lets wait and see when all the other vaccines  are used on mass over the next few months . 

 

Jan. 7, 2021

htpps://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/business/china-coronavirus-vaccine-sinovac.html

"It is unclear whether Sinovac will even be used throughout Brazil. ... Its (State of Sao Paulo) the only state in the country to buy the Sinovac vaccine."

Not a 'ringing' endorsement.

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8 hours ago, Spilornis said:

As an aside the polio vaccines don't prevent polio they just limit the impact and our body fights off the germ with its normal immune system.

Isn't that how all vaccines work?

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1 hour ago, chang1 said:

Isn't that how all vaccines work?

some vaccines... admittedly few..... provide sterilizing immunity

I was just trying to make the point that even those considered the most successful in eradicating a disease eg polio do not provide sterilizing immunity

 

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-few-vaccines-prevent-infection-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-152204

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