Tarteso Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Soon you can order this thing from lazada... buy 1, take another for free. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rumak Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: "We are asking for information directly from Sinovac, so we are waiting for their response to get all the facts" "tell us about your vaccine" "oh, it is very great ! " "OK, thank you for the facts " 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The 50% number is from front line medical workers and might not be so bad. The data in reduction in hospitalisations and preventing severe infections is much more impressive. I don't much care to get asymptomatic disease.....but as a vulnerable, I don't want severe disease or the costs of hospitalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Says in the daily mail today it's only 50% effective, the worst of the lot by a long way Well if yo0u have 1.5 BILLION people the loss of a few million will not be noticed...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 15 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Says in the daily mail today it's only 50% effective, the worst of the lot by a long way 50% effective in preventing very mild symptoms, 100% effective in preventing viral pneumonia, which was also written in Brazilian report but western media decided to remove from articles. The reason why Turkish and Brazilian results vary so much (with Turkish research marking it as around 90% effective) is that Turkish were only listing those with moderate to severe symptoms, but mild symptoms were not included. Brazil included all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 No way i am taking this Chinese rubbish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 14 hours ago, mommysboy said: After taking the vaccine nobody got seriously ill or died. That's as impressive as the other three. It would also tick boxes that some of the others don't. Most of the people using Sinovac are in China. China has not released all the information on this vaccine. Honestly, do you think they are being open on the adverse reactions? Who knows if it even works? I will wait for Moderna or Pfizer BioNtech thank you. Maybe Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) one dose product if it is available next month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangyai Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That saying is applicable to viruses and bacteria also. Not finishing a course of anti biotics strengthens the diseases resistance to them. Rolling out vaccines of unproven effectiveness will surely cause the virus to mutate and strengthen. By rushing things it could turn out that the result will be making the situation worse rather than better. Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 A Bangkok Newspaper this Morning stated that the Sinovac Vaccine was procured on the suggestion of the WHO. Hmmm !!!!! Interesting 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Bangyai said: Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old. new and newer. keep the lockdowns. censor those who have opposing views. label them all as crazy. hmmmmmm velly interesting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry2222 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 10 hours ago, herwin1234 said: 61 million vaccines have been ordered at astrozennica, these are much better. And much more side effects 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Sinovac is also the most expensive one out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: "We are asking for information directly from Sinovac, so we are waiting for their response to get all the facts," Why wait? I know already how unbiased this response towards their product will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bangyai said: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That saying is applicable to viruses and bacteria also. Not finishing a course of anti biotics strengthens the diseases resistance to them. Rolling out vaccines of unproven effectiveness will surely cause the virus to mutate and strengthen. By rushing things it could turn out that the result will be making the situation worse rather than better. Later this year I would not be surprised to read about a new covid strain that spreads faster and is more deadly than those we have now , one that attacks all age groups not just the old. That is worrisome. A vaccine with very low efficacy, made from the SARS-2 virus itself like Sinovac's, could more easily pass on mutated strains to others. Evidence. Researchers say that multiple simultanious mutations, like the UK strain, likely arise from failed treatments with convalescent plasma or drugs like Remdesivir. Edited January 14, 2021 by rabas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 15 hours ago, kickstart said: The BBC has been on this all day ,this Chinese vaccsin is only 50% effective ,which you could say is about right ,as we have been told vaccines normal take years to research ,test and then produce , All these vaccines have been researched, tested ? and produced in a matter of a few months, they were bound to be a few problems ,lets wait and see when all the other vaccines are used on mass over the next few months . Jan. 7, 2021 htpps://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/business/china-coronavirus-vaccine-sinovac.html "It is unclear whether Sinovac will even be used throughout Brazil. ... Its (State of Sao Paulo) the only state in the country to buy the Sinovac vaccine." Not a 'ringing' endorsement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varun Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 No impact because the deal is already done - brown envelopes already exchanged. Vaccine price probably marked up 1000% for donations to the mia-noi fund. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chang1 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Spilornis said: As an aside the polio vaccines don't prevent polio they just limit the impact and our body fights off the germ with its normal immune system. Isn't that how all vaccines work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chang1 Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said: 13 hours ago, herwin1234 said: 61 million vaccines have been ordered at astrozennica, these are much better. And much more side effects What side effects does it cause that the others don't? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 just pray, same efficacy as this junk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 hours ago, bkk6060 said: If they paid me 100,000 b ++, I would not take this Chinese vaccine. No way no how. But they are half the price as a good one and everyone likes a bargain, no? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 If the Chinese vaccine only has a 50% efficacy, then should we all want two double-shots? You’ve seen how their virus works—now trust their vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry2222 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, chang1 said: What side effects does it cause that the others don't? Neurological and psychological side effects. Sputnik-V has not such problems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 hours ago, uncleP said: I went to the hospital today for my prostrate issue I wouldn't take that lying down if I were you...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spilornis Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, chang1 said: Isn't that how all vaccines work? some vaccines... admittedly few..... provide sterilizing immunity I was just trying to make the point that even those considered the most successful in eradicating a disease eg polio do not provide sterilizing immunity https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-few-vaccines-prevent-infection-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-152204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleP Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said: I wouldn't take that lying down if I were you...... when I said my appointment was with Dr Finger Upthebum to the 9 waiting nurses only one of them got the giggles. : D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 just do a WAI...same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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