tebee Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 3:47 PM, kingdong said: Read the title of the thread, "britain denies" however if you,re in possession of information that contradicts it perhaps you,d care to share it. Well they have now said they are going to look at changing them https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-admit-theyre-looking-overhauling-23347454 Tories admit they're looking at overhauling workers' rights laws after Brexit Rules governing the 48-hour week, rest breaks and holiday entitlements are being examined by the Government, the new Business Secretary said 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, tebee said: Well they have now said they are going to look at changing them https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tories-admit-theyre-looking-overhauling-23347454 Tories admit they're looking at overhauling workers' rights laws after Brexit Rules governing the 48-hour week, rest breaks and holiday entitlements are being examined by the Government, the new Business Secretary said "Going to look at" and "they,re looking" aren,t a report, i looked at a porsche carrera in a showroom the other day,i,m not going to buy it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hi from France Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, kingdong said: "Going to look at" and "they,re looking" aren,t a report, i looked at a porsche carrera in a showroom the other day,i,m not going to buy it though. What do you think about this, then? Ed Miliband, said Quote “A government committed to maintaining existing protections would not be reviewing whether they should be unpicked" And Quote Asked about his role in Britannia Unchained, a 2012 collection of essays by then Tory backbenchers calling for reduced worker protections, Kwarteng told the committee that was “a long time ago”. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/19/business-secretary-confirms-post-brexit-review-uk-workers-rights?CMP= 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingdong Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hi from France said: What do you think about this, then? Ed Miliband, said And https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/19/business-secretary-confirms-post-brexit-review-uk-workers-rights?CMP= Ed sillyman,sorry freudian slip milliband and that bastion of free and unbiased press the guardian?not a lot to be brutally frank. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharksy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 2:02 PM, Chomper Higgot said: That would have been a clever move, ‘Remain’ wasn’t an issue at the time. Hey but there’s hope, Johnson is in charge, Brexit is ‘sort of done’, nothing stopping the Old Etonian getting rid of zero hour contracts. Most of the people I know on Zero Hours contracts are foreign born. And they would be horrified if Zero Hours contracts were axed. They like the flexibility of returning to their home country for periods of time, knowing they can come back and pick up another job, quickly and easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sharksy said: Most of the people I know on Zero Hours contracts are foreign born. And they would be horrified if Zero Hours contracts were axed. They like the flexibility of returning to their home country for periods of time, knowing they can come back and pick up another job, quickly and easily. And do these people claim tax and rent credits?i,m sure it is nice for them but this happy state of affairs is detrimental to the working conditions of the british workers,having said i don,t personally blame them for taking advantage of a loophole. Edited January 19, 2021 by kingdong 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 9:29 PM, candide said: More than 80% of zero hours contrac employees are UK born. https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/emp17peopleinemploymentonzerohourscontracts 29 minutes ago, sharksy said: Most of the people I know on Zero Hours contracts are foreign born. And they would be horrified if Zero Hours contracts were axed. They like the flexibility of returning to their home country for periods of time, knowing they can come back and pick up another job, quickly and easily. It's not sure that most of the zero hour contract workers, who are actually UK born, would share the same enthusiasm. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, candide said: It's not sure that most of the zero hour contract workers, who are actually UK born, would share the same enthusiasm. So zero our contract workers actually prefer to be told on a daily basis when they,ll be required and for how many hours?this of could of course be more on the day i.e you could be told you,re working extra hours,so that makes things practically impossible to arrange childcare or have any vestige of a social life,and you think workers prefer to work under these conditions? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, kingdong said: So zero our contract workers actually prefer to be told on a daily basis when they,ll be required and for how many hours?this of could of course be more on the day i.e you could be told you,re working extra hours,so that makes things practically impossible to arrange childcare or have any vestige of a social life,and you think workers prefer to work under these conditions? Are you sure you read what I wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, candide said: Are you sure you read what I wrote? Yeah,did you read what i said?it pertained to the working conditions of zero hour contract workers.perhaps you,d care to counter what i wrote and enighten me as to the advantages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, kingdong said: Yeah,did you read what i said?it pertained to the working conditions of zero hour contract workers.perhaps you,d care to counter what i wrote and enighten me as to the advantages. What means "It's not sure that most of the zero hour contract workers, who are actually UK born, would share the same enthusiasm". (For zero hour contracts)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Brexit: Government considers scrapping some EU labour laws https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55725720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Brexit: Government considers scrapping some EU labour laws https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55725720 Great..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, transam said: Great..... Which ones would you like to see scrapped? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, RuamRudy said: Which ones would you like to see scrapped? Ones that are of no use in the UK, of which are up to the government of the day to make a decision on.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, transam said: Ones that are of no use in the UK, of which are up to the government of the day to make a decision on.... I think we would all agree on that in general, but I was asking which specific ones you would like to see scrapped? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, RuamRudy said: I think we would all agree on that in general, but I was asking which specific ones you would like to see scrapped? I have no interest in searching through individual questionable laws, I am only interested in the UK to being free to now do what it wants..... Isn't it great........? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, transam said: I have no interest in searching through individual questionable laws, I am only interested in the UK to being free to now do what it wants..... Isn't it great........? So you would have no objections to the tories dismantling workers' rights and protections if these laws had arisen from the EU, is that correct? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: So you would have no objections to the tories dismantling workers' rights and protections if these laws had arisen from the EU, is that correct? If you are looking for an argument via your hatred for authority, you have come to the wrong place. The fact is, your lefty party may do the same thing in the future, in which case you would be very quiet here... You seem to be looking for something that probably isn't there, scaremongering again....Chill out chap. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, transam said: If you are looking for an argument via your hatred for authority, you have come to the wrong place. The fact is, your lefty party may do the same thing in the future, in which case you would be very quiet here... You seem to be looking for something that probably isn't there, scaremongering again....Chill out chap. ???? Hatred of authority? I am not sure what gave you that idea. I am simply curious as to why you were cheering on the suggestion that laws were being considered for being scrapped when you don't know what those laws are or how they may actually be protecting you or your fellow brits. It seems a bit churlish, does it not, to simply erase all remnants of our EU past regardless of the benefits you might be currently gaining from it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, RuamRudy said: Hatred of authority? I am not sure what gave you that idea. I am simply curious as to why you were cheering on the suggestion that laws were being considered for being scrapped when you don't know what those laws are or how they may actually be protecting you or your fellow brits. It seems a bit churlish, does it not, to simply erase all remnants of our EU past regardless of the benefits you might be currently gaining from it? "Erase all remnants of our EU past", what on earth are you talking about, the thread is about the UK now using its own laws, that is one of the Brexit benefits, we are in control, but you want to be governed by others across the channel, follow laws that they thought up. Hilarious.......???? Now if that is what you and your Scottish Nationals want, then good luck with that...... Will you sign up to converse in German too...? ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, transam said: "Erase all remnants of our EU past", what on earth are you talking about, the thread is about the UK now using its own laws, that is one of the Brexit benefits, we are in control, but you want to be governed by others across the channel, follow laws that they thought up. Hilarious.......???? Now if that is what you and your Scottish Nationals want, then good luck with that...... Will you sign up to converse in German too...? ???? But you are cheering the possible scrapping of laws without even knowing what they are or how they are protecting you, simply because they originated from within the EU. As I said, it seems churlish to welcome this move without even trying to understand how it will impact you or your countrymen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: But you are cheering the possible scrapping of laws without even knowing what they are or how they are protecting you, simply because they originated from within the EU. As I said, it seems churlish to welcome this move without even trying to understand how it will impact you or your countrymen. You are very confused chap, I am cheering the FACT that the UK is now able to govern laws itself, you are insinuating the UK gov. are going to scrap every law passed whilst being in the EU, which is nonsense and not the case...... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted January 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, transam said: You are very confused chap, I am cheering the FACT that the UK is now able to govern laws itself, you are insinuating the UK gov. are going to scrap every law passed whilst being in the EU, which is nonsense and not the case...... Ok... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Ok... Does it say..." Considers SOME", I repeat....."Considers SOME"......? Please think a bit more before you post..........Thank you.. Edited January 20, 2021 by transam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bluespunk Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, transam said: Great..... Nice to see how brexiteers feel about the undermining of the rights and protections of those who actually live in the country. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Nice to see how brexiteers feel about the undermining of the rights and protections of those who actually live in the country. Show me what rights have been removed..? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, transam said: Show me what rights have been removed..? Read the article to see what is being done and who said rights had been removed...I know I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Read the article to see what is being done and who said rights had been removed...I know I didn't As you are against the UK controlling its own laws, regarding this topic, and complaining about it, show me what rights have been removed so far...? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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