29 dead in Norway after given Vaccine

[meechai 3,111]

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Norway expressed increasing concern about the safety of the Pfizer Inc. vaccine on elderly people with

serious underlying health conditions after raising an estimate of the number who died after receiving inoculations to 29.

 

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/6/163541/Six-more-elderly-died-in-Norway-after-vaccine-jabs

 

I wonder why they risk giving these vaccines to those with "serious underlying health conditions "?

 

[4MyEgo 15,222]

Why on earth would they give terminally ill, elderly patients a new vaccine, especially when their immune systems are so weak and they are terminal anyway ?

 

RIP

Edited January 17 by 4MyEgo

[sirineou 17,900]

About 50,000 of the elderly and high risk get vaccinated and of those 50,000 , twenty nine died.

I wonder if there was no Pandemic and no Vaccine, how many of that 50,000 elderly high risk crowd would had died? 

Edited January 17 by sirineou

[faraday 11,839]

The BMJ reports 23 deaths:

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149

 

Bloomberg reports:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29

 

Why else are elderly people being prioritized for vaccination....?

 

Besides which, the Norwegians had " serious underlying...etc"

 

And last Friday, Pfizer allegedly have a supply issue.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55666399

 

Coincidence.....?

[tonray 13,823]

4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Why on earth would they give elderly terminally ill patients a new vaccine, especially when their immune systems are so weak and they are terminal ?

 

RIP

They were not terminally ill per se...their only terminal condition was old age and frailty. The reason they vaccinate is that elderly patients in a state of frailty have a 90% probability of hospitalization if contracting Covid-19. My mom was in a care home for many years...I would visit one day and some residents would be chatting and joking with me and the next day when I arrive....they'd be gone...anything can trigger sudden death in that population...

[Kinnock 3,658]

Headline should really say; "Norway stops wasting vaccine doses on frail, terminally-ill patients and focuses on front-line health workers like they should have been doing in the first place".

 

 

[Crossy 27,803]

"29 dead in Norway after given Vaccine" wellll, they are hardly going to die before being given the vaccine are they?

 

29 of 50,000 is 0.06%

 

I really do wish that the media wouldn't keep publishing these scare-mongering reports, they only serve to feed the anti-vax brigade and increase the danger to the sensible ones.

 

 

[4MyEgo 15,222]

7 minutes ago, tonray said:

They were not terminally ill per se...their only terminal condition was old age and frailty. The reason they vaccinate is that elderly patients in a state of frailty have a 90% probability of hospitalization if contracting Covid-19. My mom was in a care home for many years...I would visit one day and some residents would be chatting and joking with me and the next day when I arrive....they'd be gone...anything can trigger sudden death in that population...

It does say terminally ill in this video, that's were I saw it.

 

 

[KhaoYai 3,105]

This is a concern and will be used to its absolute extent by the anti vax brigade.  However, for now I think its best taken in perspective.  Millions of Pfizer vaccinations have taken place and as far as I know, nobody else has died - why only in Norway?

 

There have been a few allergic reactions in the UK but all of those were people who'd had allergic reactions in the past and all of them were fully recovered within 24 hours.  The UK government has given instructions that until the results of investigations are known, those who have had allergic reactions to vaccinations and medications in the past should not be given either the Pfizer or Astra Zeneca vaccine.

 

I believe there were also 21 cases of allergic reactions in the US - out of 1.9 million vaccinations (at the time).

 

I'm staying in the queue.

[sirineou 17,900]

1 minute ago, Crossy said:

29 dead in Norway after given Vaccine" wellll, they are hardly going to die before being given the vaccine are they?

That was funny  LMAO

[cormanr7 151]

Maybe it was not such a bright idea to inject these frail people with (any) vaccine.

Interesting note: in the Pfizer-BioNTech phase III trial, the oldest patients were 85 (41% fell in the age group of 56-85). It is simply to risky to include very elderly people.

[Crossy 27,803]

3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

I'm staying in the queue.

 

Me too, but I agree "why only Norway" certainly needs investigating although I suspect the result will be that they quite possibly would have died anyway.

[KhaoYai 3,105]

1 minute ago, cormanr7 said:

Maybe it was not such a bright idea to inject these frail people with (any) vaccine.

Interesting note: in the Pfizer-BioNTech phase III trial, the oldest patients were 85 (41% fell in the age group of 56-85). It is simply to risky to include very elderly people.

I sincerely hope you're not classing a 56 year old as 'very elderly' .

[Crossy 27,803]

3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

I sincerely hope you're not classing a 56 year old as 'very elderly' .

 

Me too. That said my employer classes me as "at risk" so I must work from home. Not that I'm complaining but I'm only 61 (62 in April) and in reasonable health.

 

Of course that I don't have to drive 100km every day and shell 1,000 Baht a week on tolls is a bonus. Sadly my body just insists on waking up at 4.30AM like every other workday.

[sirineou 17,900]

5 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Me too. That said my employer classes me as "at risk" so I must work from home. Not that I'm complaining but I'm only 61 (62 in April) and in reasonable health.

 

Of course that I don't have to drive 100km every day and shell 1,000 Baht a week on tolls is a bonus. Sadly my body just insists on waking up at 4.30AM like every other workday.

Did you ever consider the possibility that they got tired of looking at you and are using the covid excuse for a Crossy vacation