JTXR Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I know the government recently said that private hospitals can import and administer Covid-19 vaccines (for a fee, of course). Does anyone know if there is a site that will detail which hospitals and which vaccines they expect to get and when? Or are people just going to have to call the hospitals to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 A vaccine has to be approved first - none have been approved to date. Vibhavadi Hospital was ordered to cease advance sales at end of December but believe they have ordered so will likely be one of the first to actually have. Original order was to be Moderna vaccine but not sure if that was actual order. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTXR Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: A vaccine has to be approved first - none have been approved to date. Vibhavadi Hospital was ordered to cease advance sales at end of December but believe they have ordered so will likely be one of the first to actually have. Original order was to be Moderna vaccine but not sure if that was actual order. The AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine that will be produced locally and the Chinese vaccine that the government has purchased haven't been approved? That's odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JTXR said: The AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine that will be produced locally and the Chinese vaccine that the government has purchased haven't been approved? That's odd. No vaccine has been approved for use in Thailand. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401126?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_referral Application has been submitted for the two you mentioned but they have not yet been approved. Edited January 18, 2021 by lopburi3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It will be widely known when vax will be available in private hospitals. At least 4 bangkok hospitals are planning to bring each up to 50-60k of moderna. Price would be in 6-10k range. The first will be approved sinovac, available from February to medics. Rather small chance it will be given to any foreigner, because the government bought only 2mln doses, before astrazeneca will be available. But if anybody is in a risk group they can register with local authorities and hope for the best. In May thai made astrazeneca, unless some private hospital imports them. I think unlikely, as it's cheap vax and private hospitals won't be able to made mark up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: Vibhavadi Hospital was ordered to cease advance sales at end of December but believe they have ordered so will likely be one of the first to actually have. Original order was to be Moderna vaccine but not sure if that was actual order. Yeah I saw that in Reuters a few days back. Rather ridiculous that the gov is sitting on their hands with approval and blocking private hospitals from ordering and administering on their own and for profit while at the same time ordering the worst (chinese) vaccine for its people. Makes no logical sense other than they (the gov) want to vaccinate thais first (for show) and they don't want to "look bad" by having privates vaccinating people with money while the general population cant afford it. To OP: Like lopburi said: once the government actually approves these vaccinations for public use AND allows private hospitals to order their own stock and administer for profit, then I imagine it would be time to start calling hospitals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, internationalism said: It will be widely known when vax will be available in private hospitals. At least 4 bangkok hospitals are planning to bring each up to 50-60k of moderna. Price would be in 6-10k range. The first will be approved sinovac, available from February to medics. Rather small chance it will be given to any foreigner, because the government bought only 2mln doses, before astrazeneca will be available. But if anybody is in a risk group they can register with local authorities and hope for the best. In May thai made astrazeneca, unless some private hospital imports them. I think unlikely, as it's cheap vax and private hospitals won't be able to made mark up. 200-330$ for 1 shot?Wow!Moderna costs around 18$ per dose.Greedy hospitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mrmicbkktxl said: 200-330$ for 1 shot?Wow!Moderna costs around 18$ per dose.Greedy hospitals Welcome to Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervona81732 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 hours ago, lopburi3 said: A vaccine has to be approved first - none have been approved to date. Vibhavadi Hospital was ordered to cease advance sales at end of December but believe they have ordered so will likely be one of the first to actually have. Original order was to be Moderna vaccine but not sure if that was actual order. Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 hours ago, lopburi3 said: No vaccine has been approved for use in Thailand. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401126?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_referral Application has been submitted for the two you mentioned but they have not yet been approved. Yes that is correct but the delay is due to the amount that should go into the brown or red envelops? ???? The Chinese one doesn't count it is coming from family ( we are brothers theory ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, nervona81732 said: Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. Very few and almost all have been elderly and in poor health and to date no data on if it was actually an adverse reaction - put that in perspective with the number that have had vaccine and thus may live to see another day even if exposed. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mapguy Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, nervona81732 said: Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. Is that "NERVOUS81732" ? The government of Thailand, like any responsible government is being cautious. Yes, there are complications with any medical treatment, vaccination or other. There is no certainty. There can be various reactions for different reasons. Unfortunately --- especially when it comes to immunization of children -- stubborn anti-vaccination people for religious reasons, just fearful or simply irresponsible endanger others. At worst, in certain groups, such as the Amish in America, that has happened. Generally they diminish important coverage of a general population. Unfortunately, with a drop in coverage we have seen the return of infectious diseases of childhood that could have been avoided. OK, check if you want, but then evaluate the impact in a systematic manner. Remember that it is not just your safety that is being considered; it is the community. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlclark97 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 hours ago, lopburi3 said: No vaccine has been approved for use in Thailand. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401126?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_referral Application has been submitted for the two you mentioned but they have not yet been approved. Spoke with my American doctor yesterday and neither AstraZenaca or Moderna have applied to import their vaccines for approval to ship to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapguy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I think the government should rethink any policy that excludes foreigners from the public vaccination program. I am not an accountant, so I can not determine the cost, but not to do so is detrimental to their overall goal of public safety. The government needs to mobilize the private medical system. It should enlist all private hospitals and subsidize their efforts. And that would include Thais who want to "jump the line" for vaccination not just foreigners. I don't favor doing that just because it is affordable to some and not to others, but vaccination of the population should not be a profit center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 hours ago, internationalism said: It will be widely known when vax will be available in private hospitals. At least 4 bangkok hospitals are planning to bring each up to 50-60k of moderna. Price would be in 6-10k range. The first will be approved sinovac, available from February to medics. Rather small chance it will be given to any foreigner, because the government bought only 2mln doses, before astrazeneca will be available. But if anybody is in a risk group they can register with local authorities and hope for the best. In May thai made astrazeneca, unless some private hospital imports them. I think unlikely, as it's cheap vax and private hospitals won't be able to made mark up. Do you have any evidence whatsoever in support this information you are providing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerculler Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, nervona81732 said: Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. Can you prove and back up that statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, dlclark97 said: Spoke with my American doctor yesterday and neither AstraZenaca or Moderna have applied to import their vaccines for approval to ship to Thailand. Well go back and tell him he's wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-thailand/thailand-orders-a-further-35-million-doses-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-idUSKBN29A0VF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, nervona81732 said: Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. Don't bother to check. The answer is very few. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, dlclark97 said: Spoke with my American doctor yesterday and neither AstraZenaca or Moderna have applied to import their vaccines for approval to ship to Thailand. Astrazeneca applied the last week, the very same day as sinovac. for aż there is a lot of time, at least till may, when thai made will be available Sinovac coming already in february. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Mama Noodle said: Yeah I saw that in Reuters a few days back. Rather ridiculous that the gov is sitting on their hands with approval and blocking private hospitals from ordering and administering on their own and for profit while at the same time ordering the worst (chinese) vaccine for its people. Makes no logical sense other than they (the gov) want to vaccinate thais first (for show) and they don't want to "look bad" by having privates vaccinating people with money while the general population cant afford it. To OP: Like lopburi said: once the government actually approves these vaccinations for public use AND allows private hospitals to order their own stock and administer for profit, then I imagine it would be time to start calling hospitals. No way Thai people will touch Chinese vaccines from what I’ve heard , they don’t trust China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Why should Thai Health be saddled with vaccination of us Farangs? My Health provider has expressed their intentions to give to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, internationalism said: It will be widely known when vax will be available in private hospitals. At least 4 bangkok hospitals are planning to bring each up to 50-60k of moderna. Price would be in 6-10k range. The first will be approved sinovac, available from February to medics. Rather small chance it will be given to any foreigner, because the government bought only 2mln doses, before astrazeneca will be available. But if anybody is in a risk group they can register with local authorities and hope for the best. In May thai made astrazeneca, unless some private hospital imports them. I think unlikely, as it's cheap vax and private hospitals won't be able to made mark up. I read today that Vibhavadi Hospital and the Thonburi group of hospitals, ( THG), has it on order and the price will be around 3,200 baht for two shots. Astrazeneca stated that they were producing at either $3 or 3 GBP, per shot and were passing it on as a humanitarian act without adding a mark up! That would mean actual costs are between 90 baht and 120 baht per shot. Let's be honest, it will be available in all the Big hospitals such as Bumrungrad and Bangkok hospitals as soon as it is passed by the government, they are not going to miss out on anything, even if it is only ' credibility and bragging rights ' to promote their brands and the ' caring face of healthcare '. Beyond me, why Thailand hasn't put these vaccines getting passed to the top of the agenda THG group includes these :- Thonburi Hospital Thonburi 2 Hospital Rajyindee Hospital Ubonrak Thonburi Hospital Sirivej Chanthaburi Hospital Thonburi Thung Song Hospital Ar Yu International Hospital The Republic of the Union of Myanmar Thonburi Bamrungmuang Hospital Thonburi Burana Hospital Pattaya City Hospital Phuket Provincial Hospital Koh Lan International Medical Center Clinic Heart Center at Phatara Thonburi Hospital Clinic Heart Center Thonburi 2 Hospital Clinic Heart Center Phatthalung Hospital. I know the Thai government and the Cambodian government are trying to keep the Chinese happy with regards to using Sinovac. Just found the link! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-thailand/thai-private-hospitals-reserve-covid-19-vaccines-ahead-of-approval-idUSKBN29N0XK Edited January 18, 2021 by Scouse123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayson1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Moonlover said: Well go back and tell him he's wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-thailand/thailand-orders-a-further-35-million-doses-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-idUSKBN29A0VF AstraZeneca vaccine will be produced in Thailand by a Thai company. It will not be imported for sale. A small amount is being imported by the Thai government to help expedite the Thai FDA approval process. AstraZeneca's FDA application does not allow it be imported by the private sector, per Thai FDA Sec-Gen in KhaoSod yesterday evening. https://www.khaosod.co.th/covid-19/news_5763659 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 hours ago, dlclark97 said: Spoke with my American doctor yesterday and neither AstraZenaca or Moderna have applied to import their vaccines for approval to ship to Thailand. More importantly, there are existing supply contracts. countries who put up development and seed money last year are first in line. Because Thailand had not contributed anything, it is at the back of the line. I believe in planning it is called priorities: Vaccines v. Submarine purchase v. Army golf course v. bloated army generals compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 According to the Bangkok post 2 private hospitals have placed orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Deerculler said: Can you prove and back up that statement? They will find the one story (that probably is not even related and just coincidence) that gets widely reported out of millions and millions that don't have any problems and say "see, everyone is getting autism" or whatever. ???? Edited January 18, 2021 by shdmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 hours ago, lopburi3 said: A vaccine has to be approved first - none have been approved to date. Vibhavadi Hospital was ordered to cease advance sales at end of December but believe they have ordered so will likely be one of the first to actually have. Original order was to be Moderna vaccine but not sure if that was actual order. Private hospitals have been given the ok to order and the hospital I use has ordered the Pfizer vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 hours ago, Moonlover said: Do you have any evidence whatsoever in support this information you are providing here? Do you have any evidence to refute it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 hours ago, nervona81732 said: Good luck with the vaccine. I would suggest you check out how many people are dying around the world shortly after jab. Suggest you check out how many have died around the world from covid before any chance of a vaccine, and far from over. Time you realised, if it wasn't for vaccines, we wouldn't be here today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, 5633572526 said: Do you have any evidence to refute it?? That's not how the burden of proof works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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