Popular Post webfact Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Biden may cancel Keystone XL pipeline permit as soon as his first day in office: source FILE PHOTO: A depot used to store pipes for Transcanada Corp's planned Keystone XL oil pipeline is seen in Gascoyne, North Dakota, January 25, 2017. REUTERS/Terray Sylvester (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Joe Biden is planning to cancel the permit for the $9 billion Keystone XL pipeline project as one of his first acts in office, and perhaps as soon as his first day, according to a source familiar with his thinking. President Donald Trump, a Republican, had made building the pipeline a central promise of his presidential campaign. Biden, who will be inaugurated on Wednesday, was vice president in the Obama administration when it rejected the project as contrary to its efforts to combat climate change. The words "Rescind Keystone XL pipeline permit" appear on a list of executive actions likely scheduled for the first day of Biden's presidency, according to an earlier report https://bit.ly/3nP4993 by the Canadian Broadcasting Corp (CBC). Biden, a Democrat, had earlier vowed to scrap the oil pipeline's presidential permit if he became president. Canada's ambassador to the United States said she would continue to promote a project that she said fit with both countries' environmental plans. "There is no better partner for the U.S. on climate action than Canada as we work together for green transition," Ambassador Kirsten Hillman said in a statement. The project, which would move oil from the province of Alberta to Nebraska, had been slowed by legal issues in the United States. It also faced opposition from environmentalists seeking to check the expansion of Canada's oil sands by opposing new pipelines to move its crude to refineries. Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said on Twitter that cancellation would eliminate jobs, weaken U.S.-Canada relations and undermine American national security by making the United States more dependent on OPEC oil imports. TC Energy Corp., which operates the pipeline, said it would achieve net zero emissions by 2023 when it enters service. The company also pledged to use only renewable energy sources by 2030 in a bid to win Biden's support. Construction is well under way in Canada, with the international border crossing complete. In the United States, TC has started construction on pump stations in each of the states the line will pass through, but legal setbacks cost it much of the 2020 construction season. Former Democratic President Barack Obama axed the project in 2015, saying Canada would reap most of the economic benefits, while the project would add to greenhouse gas emissions. Trump issued a presidential permit in 2017 that allowed the line to move forward, and several environmental groups sued the U.S. government. (Reporting by Trevor Hunnicutt in Wilmington, Delaware, and Kanishka Singh and Aishwarya Nair in Bengaluru; Additional reporting by Jessica Resnick-Ault in New York, David Ljunggren in Ottawa and Andy Sullivan in Washington; Editing by Peter Cooney and Diane Craft) -- © Copyright Reuters 2021-01-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Personally I’d like to keep it with full safety protocols followed to a t and if there’s an accident the responsible Party’s are held accountable 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Tug said: Personally I’d like to keep it with full safety protocols followed to a t and if there’s an accident the responsible Party’s are held accountable I think one of the big problems was also how it crossed an Indian reservation. As usual with Trump, he didn't care and pushed forward. https://www.narf.org/keystone-xl/ Quote Although, the pipeline’s proposed path crosses the plaintiff tribes’ homelands, the tribes have not been consulted as required by law and DOI policy. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazes Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Welcome to Wokeville. 9 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 depends how much the oil lobby contributes to Biden as to what the outcome will be. 4 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, wombat said: depends how much the oil lobby contributes to Biden as to what the outcome will be. Luckily, he's not like Trump. As proven by him considering canceling the contract. A big part of his platform was to go green. A majority of Americans support that. 9 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: I think one of the big problems was also how it crossed an Indian reservation. As usual with Trump, he didn't care and pushed forward. https://www.narf.org/keystone-xl/ July 7, 2020 Supreme Court deals major blow to Keystone XL project https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/politics/keystone-xk-supteme-court-pipeline/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Cancelling it is not very neighborly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hey, y'all voted for him. Couple more years of this nonsense and tree-stump will beat the guy in the next election. 5 4 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: U.S. President-elect Joe Biden is planning to cancel the permit for the $9 billion Keystone XL pipeline project as one of his first acts in office, and perhaps as soon as his first day, Good. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Good. Yeah, cancel all those jobs and the little mini economy the pipeline created. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Yeah, cancel all those jobs and the little mini economy the pipeline created. The pipeline needs to be cancelled and I will be very happy to see this happen. 8 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Bluespunk said: The pipeline needs to be cancelled and I will be very happy to see this happen. Literally no sound or logical reason for feeling like this, or workaround that cant be achieved, especially if you actually had any idea of how many pipelines currently criss-cross the globe transporting fuel/gas. But anywho, just a few more years of democrat screws and it'll all be over. 8 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Literally no sound or logical reason for feeling like this, or workaround that cant be achieved, especially if you actually had any idea of how many pipelines currently criss-cross the globe transporting fuel/gas. But anywho, just a few more years of democrat screws and it'll all be over. I do have a good idea of the pipelines crossing the world...this pipeline is the one we are discussing here 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: I do have a good idea of the pipelines crossing the world...this pipeline is the one we are discussing here You dont, but thats ok. If you did, you'd see just how illogical this all is. Its nothing but a political football, and nothing to do with anything else. But whatever. Theres no convincing people. Just have to wait until they are added to the unemployment figures and people start getting hit in the wallet. 7 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: You dont, but thats ok. If you did, you'd see just how illogical this all is. Its nothing but a political football, and nothing to do with anything else. But whatever. Theres no convincing people. Just have to wait until they are added to the unemployment figures and people start getting hit in the wallet. Do you understand the issues? 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Do you understand the issues? Of course he doesn't, and don't forget you are using wording which are not in trump's, or his supporters, vocabulary, and add to that the fact that trump was so angered by all of the successes that Obama had, he vowed to scrap them wherever possible. Vindictive and small-minded are just a couple of things which spring to mind. Oh and trying to please his big moneyed buddies would be another. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Do you understand the issues? Yes, Democrat stopped pipeline, republican re-started pipeline, Democrat (during "pandemic" and "economic crisis") is re-stopping pipeline and losing jobs he should be trying to maintain. Nothing more to it than that, everything else is political noise and/or has perfectly reasonable solutions available. I know for 100% fact that most of the people on here celebrating the pipeline block are only doing it because it has the Biden name on it. If Biden supported it, so would all the haters in this thread. Its just as simple and stupid as that. 6 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, xylophone said: trump was so angered by all of the successes that Obama had, he vowed to scrap them wherever possible. FYI: Joe Biden is doing exactly this to everything Trump did. Joe must be so angered and buttburt too. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Trump has been a human wrecking ball, when it comes to anything environmental. A man so completely lacking in vision, and so completely sold out to corporate interests, that it boggles the mind. For someone who used the slogan drain the swamp, it is a stunning contradiction that he was never able to once say no, to a corporate lobbyist who entered his office, or asked him for a favor. The environmental degradation under his watch was a nightmare. Plus the leasing of public lands for logging, mining and drilling was an abomination. Pristine areas throughout the US were opened up, and pillaged. Then there are the 125 environmental rules and safeguards that Trump weakened or rolled back in his time in office. Only 17 of the 89 that were legally challenged have received rulings in favor. The Tongass National Forest in Alaska was about to be opened to logging, and he also weakened the Clean Air Act and the Endangered Species Act. Fortunately, the dems have always been more friendly towards the planet, and Biden will roll back alot of the wrecking ball policies of dangerous Don. The earth is quite finite, something he does not understand, as he has likely never spent a night outdoors, in his entire sorry lifetime, nor has he ever visited a national park, for recreation. Nature is just not his style. Gilded penthouses and the White House lawn, are as close as this guy comes to nature. America has the best National park system on the planet. The parks, forests, and recreational areas are second to none, and need to be protected. It is astonishing. I have been to dozens of these areas, and they are truly amazing. Today there are four major federal agencies that manage around 610 million acres of public land held by the U.S. government: Bureau of Land Management (BLM): 248 million acres or 10.5 percent of all land in the country. U.S. Forest Service (USFS): 193 million acres or 8.5 percent of the country. https://www.outsideonline.com/2420177/biden-protect-environment-plan “There’s a quiet, almost covert, effort to dismantle the public lands management infrastructure,” said Jim Lyons, who was Deputy Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management at the Interior Department in the Obama administration. “It’s very effective. I call it evil genius.” https://e360.yale.edu/features/open-for-business-the-trump-revolution-on-public-lands Edited January 18, 2021 by spidermike007 4 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: FYI: Joe Biden is doing exactly this to everything Trump did. Joe must be so angered and buttburt too. Obama had a vision he was working towards. Trump's vision was to undo that all. So with Biden having similar views to Obama it looks like the previously laid out trajectory will be followed again, with of course some deviations on the way. This means the USA will be moving forward again, MAGA. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, stevenl said: Obama had a vision he was working towards. Trump's vision was to undo that all. So with Biden having similar views to Obama it looks like the previously laid out trajectory will be followed again, with of course some deviations on the way. This means the USA will be moving forward again, MAGA. Translation: "its good when my guy does it" 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvs Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Translation: "its good when my guy does it" You said it!!! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said: You dont, but thats ok. If you did, you'd see just how illogical this all is. Its nothing but a political football, and nothing to do with anything else. But whatever. Theres no convincing people. Just have to wait until they are added to the unemployment figures and people start getting hit in the wallet. I do. The planet doesn’t need another pipeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Translation: "its good when my guy does it" Nope. Translation: finally there is a view again in stead of negativism. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Good. Let Canada run the pipe across their own pristine countryside. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 stopping a pipeline won't stop the oil. the spice must flow. the oil will simply continue to be moved in safe and environmentally friendly tanker trucks and railcars..........that never ever leak or derail or catch fire or blow up or increase greenhouse emissions. c'mon, joe! i had such high hopes for ya! don't start off by pandering to your mob. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guitar God Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Mama Noodle said: Yeah, cancel all those jobs and the little mini economy the pipeline created. Take the money and spend it on renewable energy creation. Solar, , hydro, wave power, wind power and you’ll create as many jobs. We have smart people in the country, surely they can find a solution for the windmill cancer problem. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Pique Dard Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 oh yes! the usa have ultimately got the president they deserve! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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