Popular Post webfact Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Thailand hasn't bought Pfizer or Moderna jabs, says doctor after deaths in Norway Picture: Daily News A leading doctor in the fight against Covid-19 has reassured the Thai public that the country is not buying the vaccine at the center of concerns after 23 frail and elderly people died in Norway. The old people died after being given shots of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. Dr Sophon Iamsirithavorn said that the Pfizer vaccination and Modrna were mRNA jabs. Thailand has gone for AstraZeneca and Sinovac from China that uses a different technology. Thailand would continue to monitor the experiences abroad before vaccinations are carried out in the country, he said. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-01-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, webfact said: and Sinovac from China But science, or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, webfact said: Thailand hasn't bought Pfizer or Moderna jabs, But will they be approved and available at private hospitals? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, webfact said: reassured the Thai public that the country is not buying the vaccine at the center of concerns after 23 frail and elderly people died in Norway. Good decision by the Thais to wait, use other countries as guinea pigs to test these rushed through vaccines and see how it panned out before giving it to Thai people. . As the old saying goes, no flies on the Thais. 7 9 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcnx Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 But they bought the Chinese ones, that are only 50% effective with no real oversight on safety. Right. Good job, Thailand. 25 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timendres Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Natai Beach said: Good decision by the Thais to wait, use other countries as guinea pigs to test these rushed through vaccines and see how it panned out before giving it to Thai people. . As the old saying goes, no flies on the Thais. Precisely. The mRNA approach is very new and, to my mind, a very big leap. I do expect that over time mRNA will prove to be a positive advancement in medicine, but I am certainly not interested in being at the front of the line in terms of testing it. Edited January 18, 2021 by onthedarkside quote of hidden post removed 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olav Seglem Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Im norwegian and follow norwegian tv news on tv daily. Have not heard ANYTHING AT ALL about any norwegian dying after getting any kind of vaccine..... 9 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: But will they be approved and available at private hospitals? Nuts isnt it, the gov is sitting around on their hands not approving any vaccine at this point, when they could easily approve most of them for private hospitals, and it would naturally be at your own risk and for a profit of the hospitals. Hospitals could order on their own etc and nobody is a guinea pig. But nope. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Olav Seglem said: Im norwegian and follow norwegian tv news on tv daily. Have not heard ANYTHING AT ALL about any norwegian dying after getting any kind of vaccine..... https://www.italy24news.com/a/2021/01/norway-23-deaths-after-pfizer-vaccine-enough-alarmism-the-causes-and-the-truth-about-what-happened.html Was pretty much clickbait... Quote From Norway A rather worrying news has arrived: 23 people died after receiving Pfizer-Biotech vaccine. Unleashing alarmism was all too easy between tabloid headlines and disinformation. The Norwegian drug agency, through its director Steinar Madsen, had to intervene in the first person to clarify. First of all it is about 13 dead out of 29 reports of side effects. From the autopsies on the dead, people very advanced in age (all over 80), suffering from previous pathologies and often poor health, it is clear how some minor side effects (such as trivial fever and nausea) the causes that accelerated death. Therefore weak subjects who could have died from the same causes due to a common cold, not directly attributable to lethal side effects of the vaccine. I don't expect a thai doctor to do logical decisions tho, after all only sinovac and astra brings money into thai companies as they are invested/manufacture them. Edited January 18, 2021 by onthedarkside news quote shortened for fair use 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: As the old saying goes, no flies on the Thais. Is that an old saying you just made up, I'm certainly not familiar with it! 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: Good decision by the Thais to wait, use other countries as guinea pigs to test these rushed through vaccines and see how it panned out before giving it to Thai people. . As the old saying goes, no flies on the Thais. I think there should be another emoji option on here for posts similar to the above.....A BIG???? option. 8 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andyfez Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 23 deaths is hardly a large statistic when 23 million doses have been given worldwide so far Literally one in a million. Edited January 18, 2021 by Andyfez 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spiekerjozef Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 If they can't keep the beer cold.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sathornlover Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Andyfez said: 23 deaths is hardly a large statistic when 23 million doses have been given worldwide so far Literally one in a million. China's plan to spread coronavirus revealed: Authorities plan to vaccinate 50 million people ahead of New Year's holiday But: Quote "For safety reasons, the vaccine is now being tested on healthy groups, and the current results cannot be extrapolated to children and the elderly, as well as people with chronic diseases." Thailand Intended: Quote The 2 million shots are thought to be sufficient for 1 million high-priority people, including frontline officials, those living in the most high-risk areas of the country, and the elderly. Let's wait and see how the test results will turn out if, the vaccine is actually applied to the elderly as announced in Thailand ... Edited January 18, 2021 by sathornlover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luk AJ Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Thailand is too late in purchasing vaccines so they come up with this ridiculous story that they will wait until it is proven the vaccine is safe. Meanwhile millions of people are vaccinated world-wide with minimal side effects .. Thai Government insisted to produce the vaccine under license in Thailand and surprise surprise so far not much happened. They also don't allow private hospitals to purchase the Covid vaccines because they are not (yet) FDA approved, and guess why this is... 15 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kaopad999 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, dcnx said: But they bought the Chinese ones, that are only 50% effective with no real oversight on safety. Right. Good job, Thailand. better to take a vaccine that is 50% effective rather than dropping dead after taking one that is 80% effective. I've been saying it from day one that these vaccines had clearly been rushed. Edited January 18, 2021 by Kaopad999 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 An off topic personal comments post and several replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Olav Seglem said: Im norwegian and follow norwegian tv news on tv daily. Have not heard ANYTHING AT ALL about any norwegian dying after getting any kind of vaccine..... I am Danish I just went through danish newspapers. Not one word about 23 dead in Norway. Edited January 18, 2021 by Misab 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Norway Raises Concern Over Vaccine Jabs for the Elderly Norway expressed increasing concern about the safety of the Pfizer Inc. vaccine on elderly people with serious underlying health conditions after raising an estimate of the number who died after receiving inoculations to 29. ... Until Friday, the vaccine produced by Pfizer and BioNTech SE was the only one available in Norway, and “all deaths are thus linked to this vaccine,” the Norwegian Medicines Agency said in a written response to Bloomberg on Saturday. ... The findings have prompted Norway to suggest that Covid-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill, the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, webfact said: Dr Sophon Iamsirithavorn said that the Pfizer vaccination and Modrna were mRNA jabs. Thailand has gone for AstraZeneca and Sinovac from China that uses a different technology. yes, i KNOW this is not the place (or forum) to ask, but what the heck. If its one thing we have here, its experts expats. Anyone here that cares to share what "different technology" in AZ and Sinovac are ?? (try to put in your own words ???? AND, with almost everyone here seeming to quote the pro vax "experts" on the m RNA shots ( NOT, IMO really vaccines similar to polio and smallpox etc etc) UHHH, if you don't know how they are different maybe read up on that, including doctors and experts that think it is dangerous. No need to tell me to find how AZ and Sinovac are different, I will be searching myself. But never hurts to get some arguments discussions going here on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Norway adjusts advice after vaccine deaths but isn't alarmed COPENHAGEN, Denmark -- Norwegian officials have adjusted their advice on who gets the COVID-19 vaccine in light of a small number of deaths in older people, leaving it up to each doctor to consider who should be vaccinated. ... The agency listed fever and nausea as side effects which “may have led to the deaths of some frail patients,” Sigurd Hortemo of the Norwegian Medicines Agency said in the body’s first report of the side effects. ... “We are not alarmed by this. It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients,” Steinar Madsen, medical director with the agency, told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. “Doctors must now carefully consider who should be vaccinated. Those who are very frail and at the very end of life can be vaccinated after an individual assessment,” he added. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/norway-adjusts-advice-vaccine-deaths-alarmed-75272822 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Of course they haven't only the Chinese know how to, "cough", do business in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, onthedarkside said: The findings have prompted Norway to suggest that Covid-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill, the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority. Seems like just about anything can easily kill the "terminally ill"... A common cold, bit of flu... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, onthedarkside said: “Doctors must now carefully consider who should be vaccinated. Those who are very frail and at the very end of life can be vaccinated after an individual assessment,” he added. personally if i was at "the very end of life" i think i should have the right to tell someone where to stick that damn needle . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, onthedarkside said: “We are not alarmed by this. It is quite clear that these vaccines have very little risk, with a small exception for the frailest patients,” Thailand apparently cant wrap their noggins around this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, rumak said: yes, i KNOW this is not the place (or forum) to ask, but what the heck. If its one thing we have here, its experts expats. Anyone here that cares to share what "different technology" in AZ and Sinovac are ?? (try to put in your own words ???? AND, with almost everyone here seeming to quote the pro vax "experts" on the m RNA shots ( NOT, IMO really vaccines similar to polio and smallpox etc etc) UHHH, if you don't know how they are different maybe read up on that, including doctors and experts that think it is dangerous. No need to tell me to find how AZ and Sinovac are different, I will be searching myself. But never hurts to get some arguments discussions going here on TV Quote Along the way, they also learned that, compared to traditional vaccines, mRNA vaccines can actually generate a stronger type of immunity: they stimulate the immune system to make antibodies and immune system killer cells — a double strike at the virus. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-are-mrna-vaccines-so-exciting-2020121021599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, John Drake said: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-are-mrna-vaccines-so-exciting-2020121021599 i assure you that there are more than a few doctors and experts that , in their professional opinion, feel that mrna "vaccines" have serious potential dangers and have voiced their opinions which have been BLOCKED by main street media GIANTS.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, rumak said: i assure you that there are more than a few doctors and experts that , in their professional opinion, feel that mrna "vaccines" have serious potential dangers and have voiced their opinions which have been BLOCKED by main street media GIANTS.. As per the blog entry, when mRNA technology is applied to cancer therapies and diseases such as cystic fibrosis, I am sure Thailand will be happy to forego the use of those remedies in favor of such Chinese cures as tiger claws and rhino horns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyami Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 all vaccines where rushed out but its now vitally important especially with all the easier spread new strains any issues with a chinese vaccine will be controled by the CCP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Thailand apparently cant wrap their noggins around this. I believe they are both considerably more expensive and more likely the reason Thailand will exclude them Hasn't there been some very dodgy incidents with Sinovac from China, trials in S America halted etc, and who is using the Chinese Vaccine so that data can be equally scrutinised or is it only being used in China Is there anyone here who would not have problems with a vaccine from China - maybe they will sell it on Lazada as AstraZeneca lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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