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Trump, in wave of Tuesday pardons, so far not planning to pardon himself: source


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8 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Well, if you know why then why don't just spell it out for us poor souls why still haven't seen The Truth?

We are not a bunch of grapes as you may think. The truth is something  you already know  but too ashamed to admit it. Also I hope President Trump pardons Julian Paul Assange as he told us a great deal of things.

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5 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Trumps last act: Pardons himself, family, & friends before he was marched out of the white house, for refusing to leave, by secret service personel."

 

Any takers on this being the next headline?

No. He won't do that. He wants to fly to his unauthorized residence in Florida on Airforce 1 without asking Biden's permission.

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7 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Trumps last act: Pardons himself, family, & friends before he was marched out of the white house, for refusing to leave, by secret service personel."

 

Any takers on this being the next headline?

No, he'll leave early in the morning without being dragged out. He wants to ride in Air Force One one last time.

I don't think he'll pardon himself either.

Not because he has any moral and ethical problem with it but because I think he has been correctly advised that pardoning himself is a confession of guilt and would be legally worthless. In fact, if he does pardon himself he will be openly inviting a case to challenge the constitutionally of doing so. It would be a horrible precedent for all future presidents if it was allowed to stand. It wouldn't be allowed to stand. 

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8 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

 

Shamen Jake Angeli's Mom wants to know if her boy is on the list ..

I don't really care if the one term loser pardons any of those fascist terrorists and white supremacists or not.  They probably wouldn't have spent much time in prison anyways and they still will have a criminal record.

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26 minutes ago, shdmn said:

I don't really care if the one term loser pardons any of those fascist terrorists and white supremacists or not.  They probably wouldn't have spent much time in prison anyways and they still will have a criminal record.

No, they won't have a criminal record. If you're pardoned, as opposed to having your sentence commuted, that erases your criminal record. At least for the crimes you've been pardoned for.

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8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No, they won't have a criminal record. If you're pardoned, as opposed to having your sentence commuted, that erases your criminal record. At least for the crimes you've been pardoned for.

Not true.  Try spending 10 seconds googling it next time. 

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Pardon for bannon said to be gumming up the works.

 

His involvement in 1/6 a cause for concern I guess.

 

Did see this so maybe some told of their impending pardon...

 

UPDATE: Death Row co-founder Harry-O receives pardon from Trump

 

According to an exclusive AllHipHop report, outgoing president Donald Trump has commuted the 58-year-old's prison sentence on drug-trafficking and murder charges. Activist Weldon Angelos, who received his own pardon about a month ago, confirmed the news Tuesday, just hours before Trump will leave the White House. 

 

https://www.complex.com/music/2021/01/snoop-dogg-pushing-trump-pardon-death-row-records-co-founder-michael-harris?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

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16 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Seems like "the list" will be released on Wednesday at 11:30 AM EDT.

 

Interesting choice of day and time.

 

If he has left the country by that time it might not play out as he intends. 

Maybe the person who's job it is send it out loses it, and when they finally find it the time is 12:05 PM -- oops!

:whistling:

 

 

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24 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:


Does trump have an iota of respect for his MAGA supporters? Here’s a clue: he just preemptively pardoned a man who was charged with ripping off his supporters. He disdains his MAGAS, but is happy to ride their waves of stupidity to enrich himself and cronies.

 

Trump campaign manager indicted by Trump justice dept for ripping off Trump supporters to build a fake Trump wall gets pardoned by Trump to the delight of Trump supporters.

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16 minutes ago, Thakkar said:


Does trump have an iota of respect for his MAGA supporters? Here’s a clue: he just preemptively pardoned a man who was charged with ripping off his supporters. He disdains his MAGAS, but is happy to ride their waves of stupidity to enrich himself and cronies.

 

Trump campaign manager indicted by Trump justice dept for ripping off Trump supporters to build a fake Trump wall gets pardoned by Trump to the delight of Trump supporters.

"Trump campaign manager indicted by Trump justice dept for ripping off Trump supporters to build a fake Trump wall gets pardoned by Trump to the delight of Trump supporters."

Of course, they don't believe they were ripped off. That's what happens when you're living in an alternative reality, you can believe anything you want.

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Trump Supporter Shocked Over Clemency of 'Crook' Who Stole His Life Savings in Ponzi Scheme

A 71-year-old supporter of President Donald Trump was reportedly shocked when Trump recently commuted the 40-year sentence of a man who stole his life savings in a Ponzi scheme.

Kimball Pugmire, who supported the outgoing president and voted for him in 2016 and 2020, told the Tampa Bay Times that he was forced to question Trump's honesty after learning that the president had granted clemency Wednesday to "lifetime crook" Fred Davis Clark Jr., who was sentenced to decades behind bars in 2016 after defrauding nearly 1,400 investors out of a combined $300 million.

"I had been trying to forget all this, but it makes you wonder, even being a Trump supporter, about his honesty," Pugmire told the paper.

Trump Supporter Shocked Over Clemency of 'Crook' Who Stole His Life Savings in Ponzi Scheme (newsweek.com)

 

It took this to make him wonder about Trump's honesty? No wonder he fell for a Ponzi scheme.

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