'No plan, no Q, nothing': QAnon followers reel as Biden inaugurated

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, GrandPapillon said:

quite possible, a lot of people in the fly-over states are being ignored and poorer since 2008, and Obama left them in the dust with the silly over-priced big pharma sponsored Obamacare

 

Trump was Obama legacy, the "deplorables", yet their numbers are growing, even more so with COVID

 

Ignoring their presence and the 70+ millions Trump voters should give you a clue about the political reality in the US,

 

a Biden win is not some magic vaxx against Trump voters, like COVID, they are staying around and not going anywhere ????

The ACA (Obamacare) gave health insurance to 28 million people who previously had no insurance.

 

What happened to flyover country is technology and the obviation of low-skilled human labor. The bogey-man called 'globalization' did not steal jobs from the US; it merely sent them to a way station with the next stop oblivion. More and more technology is making human labor unnecessary, and it is only going to get worse as tech chomps up the food chain and makes even some skilled workers (e.g., computer programmers) redundant.

 

Labor losing pricing power hit flyover country first, and it took a snake oil salesman like 45 to exploit the fears and uncertainty of those losing out by telling them the kind of sweet lies they wanted to hear. The same fears and need for personal meaning is what led so many to embrace the farcical claims of Q. In fact Q gave the forlorn two things: someone to blame for their own ills, and a cause celebre to allow folks to feel better about themselves. Q believers became 'on a mission'.

 

President Biden cannot stop the relentless and inevitable trend. The problems facing unskilled labor are almost intractable. Candidate Andrew Yang was as well versed on this trend as anyone, and his solution was simply to pay people for existing. Maybe that's the next stop gap solution, as societies have already run through the other supposed solutions (in the US it was manufacturing a 3rd household income source, called home equity...that worked until it blew up in 2008, a disaster Bush II handed over to President Obama).

 

There is no traditional solution. Leaders are going to have to find a way 'manufacture' personal value for people who otherwise have nothing of monetary value to add to society. The only historical event that is remotely analogous is when serfdom created a way for unnecessary people to survive. Labor in those ages had no pricing power. That was solved by a few bouts of plague that made labor rare. Lords and masters had to begin to pay.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

IMO a lot of them went over the edge about 5 years ago...

Hopefully they dragged a good number of QAnon with them.

 

I'd like to think (hope) flat-earthers do what they do as a kind mental challenge, a puzzle, a challenge to the orthodoxy ......so just lunatics like QAnon and your average Trump supporter.

[Virt]

6 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Before these Muppets came along the only Q I knew was in Star Trek ???? 

 

I know someone named O, but I think that's a different movie. 

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[OneMoreFarang]

Obviously all the qanon fans must have a very limited mind.

But that is nothing new in the USA.

 

"Forty percent of U.S. adults ascribe to a strictly creationist view of human origins, believing that God created them in their present form within roughly the past 10,000 years."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/261680/americans-believe-creationism.aspx

 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Virt said:

8 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Before these Muppets came along the only Q I knew was in Star Trek ???? 

 

I know someone named O, but I think that's a different movie. 

We should ask Q

 

 

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[Sujo]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

We should ask Q

 

 

I would but cannot because he is anon. He is anon because he is an idiot.

[OneMoreFarang]

I just check the last five pages for comments from the usual suspect on TV. Nothing until now, nothing!

It seems they need some time to figure out the new reality. It must be a hard time for them.

[LomSak27]

Q has to be a 90's movie geek.

 

WHITE SQUALL (1996) - WWG1WGA 'Where we go one  we go all'

FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS (1998) Adrenochrome dousing by Depp and his attorney. Q used it as the nefarious reason for child abductions by the liberal Hollywood elite. WT Heck?! If it works I guess. Of course, it is made up according to man who wrote the book; Hunter S Thompson. ‘Adrenechrome does not work, I just tossed it in'.

 

 

[Lacessit]

I did predict Trump would not be pardoning any of the Capitol insurrectionists, he just used them, then discarded them like he does with everyone else.

The problem with these Qanon, Proud Boys etc. etc. is education, or the lack thereof. When 50% of Americans still believe in angels, what else would anyone expect?

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4 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

quite possible, a lot of people in the fly-over states are being ignored and poorer since 2008, and Obama left them in the dust with the silly over-priced big pharma sponsored Obamacare

Under the ACA, the uninsured rate and number of uninsured people declined to a historic low by 2016....When the major ACA coverage provisions went into effect in 2014, the number of uninsured and uninsured rate dropped dramatically and continued to fall through 2016 to 26.7 million (10.0%).² Overall, nearly 20 million more people had coverage in 2016 than before the ACA was passed.

The Uninsured and the ACA: A Primer – Key Facts about Health Insurance and the Uninsured amidst Changes to the Affordable Care Act – How many people are uninsured? – 7451-14 | KFF

 

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4 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

you think everything is doing great in those states? how is turning to drugs or dropping out an improvement of their situation like you imply?

 

and the number of poor are not growing? even after COVID? what kind of news source are you watching ????

I'm looking in vain for the section in his comment that said everything is doing great in those states. 

Given that Republicans resisted aiding the poor and unemployed during the covid epidemic, but did exploit the situation to give huge tax breaks to the rich, it wouldn't be surprising that the number of poor is growing.

 

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4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

I might if I could check the validity of it.

If you can't check the validit of this story, that must mean your internet only connects you to thaivisa.com. The following story comes from fox news. It's a pity you can't connect to it.

Sasse says QAnon 'destroying the GOP' in new op-ed

 

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., said the QAnon conspiracy theory is "destroying the GOP from within" and called out House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and newly elected Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in an op-ed Saturday.

"Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon," Sasse wrote in The Atlantic. "They can't."

Sasse says QAnon 'destroying the GOP' in new op-ed | Fox News

[Lacessit]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If you can't check the validit of this story, that must mean your internet only connects you to thaivisa.com. The following story comes from fox news. It's a pity you can't connect to it.

Sasse says QAnon 'destroying the GOP' in new op-ed

 

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., said the QAnon conspiracy theory is "destroying the GOP from within" and called out House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and newly elected Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in an op-ed Saturday.

"Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon," Sasse wrote in The Atlantic. "They can't."

Sasse says QAnon 'destroying the GOP' in new op-ed | Fox News

Comey is probably right, the GOP needs to start over.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/trump-was-a-demagogue-president-and-sociopath-says-comey/13079186

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Here's a much more detailed story about the travails of Qanon supporters.

Trump leaves QAnon and the online MAGA world crushed and confused

Trump leaves QAnon and the online MAGA world crushed and confused - POLITICO

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And that American hero, Mike Flynn, is actually selling Qanon paraphernalia on his website

Michael Flynn Is Now Selling QAnon Merch (yahoo.com)

Can you imagine the damage this loon would have done had he remained the National Security Advisor?

 

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Before these Muppets came along the only Q I knew was in Star Trek ???? 

I thought he was the fellow who made all the wonderful gadgets for James Bond!

 

Edit: on reading through this thread I realise that about a dozen people made this joke before me!

 

Silly Billy!

Edited January 21, 2021 by herfiehandbag

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[Surelynot]

I read on another blog that Q was originally a pig farmer from the Philippines (not sure what nationality) and the whole thing started as a 'joke' on a chan site.

[candide]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Obviously all the qanon fans must have a very limited mind.

But that is nothing new in the USA.

 

"Forty percent of U.S. adults ascribe to a strictly creationist view of human origins, believing that God created them in their present form within roughly the past 10,000 years."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/261680/americans-believe-creationism.aspx

 

And 55-60% of Republicans depending on the poll concerned.

 

I guess a core of them are 'cumulating': creationism + pizzagate + Qanon + enrich millionaire preachers + Trumps fraud scam, etc...

[Thakkar]

6 hours ago, Bangyai said:

Mormons, Jehova Witnesses , Seventh day adventists , The Waco siege etc etc

 

The desire to find some wacky alternative religion to succumb to seems to be an abiding passion in the USA so I can well believe that a lot of people there have mental health issues on account of their gullibility.

Not just in the US. In my teens, I was briefly (well, not that briefly—over eight months) enticed into Jehova’s Witnesses. There were people from all walks of life and all income levels. The member whose home we met at was a multi millionaire. My best friend at the time (and today still my best friend) often tried to pull me out. I once mentioned to the minister under whom I studied the bible about this and his response was for me to ditch my friend. At that moment, something snapped into place in my head. My friend never threatened to abandon me if I didn’t ditch the church. But this guy, this minister of peace, his first suggestion was for me to ditch my friend. I walked out of there and never looked back. 
 

Hopefully for some—dare I hope, many?—of these Q guys a sharp jab of awakening can lift the fog long enough for some sanity, some clear thinking, to prevail. Among some I know, it has happened over the last week. There is hope.

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43 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I read on another blog that Q was originally a pig farmer from the Philippines (not sure what nationality) and the whole thing started as a 'joke' on a chan site.

It is, in fact, the son of the pig farmer (he's an American living in the Philippines) who is the prime suspect for being Q

[VBF]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve said for a while now, these people are going to need post cult counseling.

 

Willing participants in their own radicalization.

 

Noe deserted by those who brainwashed them.

 

Suckers.

"Willing participants in their own radicalization." - top comment - I love it ????????????????????????????????

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[VBF]

8 hours ago, billd766 said:

I remember Q from the James Bond films.

 

Desmond Llewelyn.

Among several others including John Cleese and Ben Wishaw https://www.thelegendofq.co.uk/try-the-other-q.html

[VBF]

14 hours ago, Virt said:

Don't cry Qs. 

 

I bet the illuminati, moon landing, 9-11 or flat earth conspiracy groups has saved a seat for you. 

 

If not, there is a new kid on the block. 

Anti vaxxers.

They probably have a seat or two available as time goes by.... 

 

With its very own 5g hub! ????

[VBF]

10 hours ago, ballpoint said:

They're not all reeling.  After all, their saviour sent them a message during his farewell address:

 

"But while some QAnon disciples gave way to doubt, others doubled down on blind belief or strained to see new coded messages in the Inauguration Day’s events. Some followers noted that 17 flags — Q being the 17th letter of the alphabet — flew on the stage as Trump delivered a farewell address.

“17 flags! come on now this is getting insane,” said one post on a QAnon forum devoted to the “Great Awakening,” the quasi-biblical name for QAnon’s utopian end times. “I don’t know how many signs has to be given to us before we ‘trust the plan,’” one commenter said."

 

As Trump era ends, QAnon believers grapple with doubt - The Washington Post

 

Any comment on the intelligence, or lack thereof, of these people is superfluous.

Well one superfluous comment from me:  That WP article is excellent - pity it's behind a paywall (limited articles per month) - I've saved it to a PDF to send to friends.

[polpott]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

Among them was Ron Watkins, who was among a small group of movement leaders who stepped up their public activity after Trump's loss in the Nov. 3 election, as the "drops" from Q slowed and then stopped.

 

The longtime administrator of 8kun, an unmoderated forum where Q posted alongside violent extremists and racists, Watkins adopted the cryptic tone of Q in the past two months on Twitter and then Telegram.

 

 Ron Watkins is the son of Q, Jim Watkins, the long time owner of  8 chan. Before it was known as the site of Qanon, Watkins Snr. ran it as the home of well known paedophile sites in the Philippines where he owned a pig farm. Around a year ago he was told to leave the Philippines and never return. He returned to his native USA.

 

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/jim-watkins-child-pornography-domains/

 

Jim Watkins pictured alongside the original owner of 8 chan, Frederick Brennan, before he was conned out of it by Watkins.

 

                                         

[Scott]

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[bendejo]

14 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Some die-hards are still hanging on. Saying the "military" is in charge now, and just waiting for mike flynn's brother Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn, to stage a military coup.

 

gen flynn is said to have been on the call with the Captiol Police as they requested help from the Pentagon. Awkward.

 

And JFK Jr will finally appear.

Where they go one they go all, like lemmings off a cliff.

 

 

[Scott]

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