webfact Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 'High doses of Vitamin C cannot prevent Covid-19' By THE NATION The Digital Economy and Society Ministry has warned people not to believe or share news and Internet posts claiming that injecting 10,000 milligrams of Vitamin C can help prevent Covid-19. “The ministry’s Anti-Fake News Centre contacted the Department of Health Service Support, Ministry of Public Health to verify this information and was told that there was no concrete evidence proving that a Vitamin C injection could help prevent the new coronavirus,” said the Centre via its Facebook page. “Any hospital or clinic providing vitamin injection services that makes such a claim is committing puffery and could be punishable by either imprisonment or fine,” it said, adding, “To protect oneself from getting infected with Covid-19, people must maintain social distancing, wear a face mask in public, wash their hands regularly, and eat freshly cooked foods.” Please do not share wrong information, as it could spread misunderstanding amid the outbreak, the ministry said. For more information, contact Department of Health Service Support on tel No. 1667 or www.hss.moph.go.th.” Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401628 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2021-01-22 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post internationalism Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Up to 2g of vit C can be taken daily as a food supplement, to boost narural intake and improve immune system. Higher doses and by injection can be prescribed by doctor, rather during treatment, than as prevention. as prevention it would have to be given every day, as this vitamin doesn't accumulate in the body for long. Doses for injection in thailand are only 500mg, so anything bigger would be given as a drip. but punishing clinics for false claims is stupid and counterproductive, just a show of power by authorities. Making a statement by this anti-fake news centre only propagates this treatment. Only very few people would otherwise heard of it. vit C is such dose is harmless, as exess will be removed from the body Edited January 22, 2021 by internationalism 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, webfact said: The Digital Economy and Society Ministry has warned people not to believe or share news and Internet posts claiming that injecting 10,000 milligrams of Vitamin C can help prevent Covid-19. Absolutely true. Whereas depositing 10,000 Baht directly to my bank account will. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaLa Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Surely if it's mixed with alcohol it must have some benefit. Talking of which I'm nearly out of Stolichnaya. Edited January 22, 2021 by DaLa Missing photo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, internationalism said: Up to 2g of vit C can be taken daily as a food supplement, to boost narural intake and improve immune system. Higher doses and by injection can be prescribed by doctor, rather during treatment, than as prevention. as prevention it would have to be given every day, as this vitamin doesn't accumulate in the body for long. Doses for injection in thailand are only 500mg, so anything bigger would be given as a drip. but punishing clinics for false claims is stupid and counterproductive, just a show of power by authorities. Making a statement by this anti-fake news centre only propagates this treatment. Only very few people would otherwise heard of it. vit C is such dose is harmless, as exess will be removed from the body Through kidneys and if you're prone to kidney stones, that won't be so harmless... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, internationalism said: vit C is such dose is harmless, as exess will be removed from the body And the associated diarrhea that comes with high Vit C doses is just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 There is proof that 1,000mg of Vit C daily does aid in improving your immune system Any correlation specifically to the Covid virus is as yet unknown but obviously people in good health with a good immune system must have a better chance of if not catching, certainly fighting it once contracted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 High does Vit C is being used with covid patients in diffferent parts of the world, it's also used in many other diseases including cancer treatments. So perhaps the article about prevention was "fake" or misunderstood the difference between treatment measures versus a preventative one. If you google High does vitamin C you'll see a lot of respected institutions with articles around high does vitamin c, but it's only part of the treatment and I think it's more about helping repair the damage covid is doing as apposed to curing or attacking covid specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, DaLa said: Surely if it's mixed with alcohol it must have some benefit. Talking of which I'm nearly out of Stolichnaya. Then go buy real Vodka Ketel-one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Taxi said: High does Vit C is being used with covid patients in diffferent parts of the world, it's also used in many other diseases including cancer treatments. So perhaps the article about prevention was "fake" or misunderstood the difference between treatment measures versus a preventative one. If you google High does vitamin C you'll see a lot of respected institutions with articles around high does vitamin c, but it's only part of the treatment and I think it's more about helping repair the damage covid is doing as apposed to curing or attacking covid specifically. Hang on, if its being used with covid patients then its a bit too late to 'prevent' covid. Yes, it is used as part of a regime sometimes but to state that 10g of Vit C (equivalent to 400 oranges) will prevent covid is just hogwash. Great for the orange industry though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Vit C may not be as affective as Vid D in lessening the symptoms of Covid19. Reports below. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210106/Vitamin-D-supplementation-found-to-reduce-COVID-19-related-mortality.aspx https://clinicalmolecularallergy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12948-020-00139-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blumpie Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 Be very wary of taking supplements. Too much of anything over a long term can be very damaging to your body. If you need vitamin C, eat fruit. Vitamin D is not a problem in Thailand. There is plenty of sunshine. Don't get kidney stones. If you start doing these silly regiments the chances of having something eventually happen is fairly high. Don't listen to vitamin heads and keto nuts. What works for one person does not work for the general population. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony125 said: Vit C may not be as affective as Vid D in lessening the symptoms of Covid19. Reports below. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210106/Vitamin-D-supplementation-found-to-reduce-COVID-19-related-mortality.aspx This reference relates to an article uploaded to a non-peer reviewed self publishing server medRxiv, and is therefore not considered as reliable scientific information. The article itself has this footnote "*Important Notice medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information." https://clinicalmolecularallergy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12948-020-00139-0 This reference itself refers to a simple scan of existing scientific papers, not research. It is mostly supposition, containing phrases like "it can be assumed" , and "it is reasonable to hypothesise" and contains no experimental data demonstrating any beneficial effect of Vitamin D supplementation on Covid 19 outcomes at all. The summary of the paper, written by the authors, includes the sentence: "The effects of vitamin D supplementation during covid 19 infection remain controversial." and a key point, also written by the authors, admits there is little evidence: "•Despite the potential effectiveness of vitamin D as an antiviral, more solid data are needed to support this claim." Therefore positive effects of vitamin D on the outcome of Covid have not been reliably established. Edited January 22, 2021 by partington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said: And the associated diarrhea that comes with high Vit C doses is just annoying. Long live the bum gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 As a side note vitamin K levels could mean something , if you're one of those that goes through a serious case of covid-19 and is hospitalized. A small study INDICATED that those with high levels of vitamin K levels had a larger chance to survive. Not a large study and no peer reviews and such, but could be interesting to research more. So maybe eat your green veggies, they might save you ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Virt said: As a side note vitamin K levels could mean something , if you're one of those that goes through a serious case of covid-19 and is hospitalized. A small study INDICATED that those with high levels of vitamin K levels had a larger chance to survive. Not a large study and no peer reviews and such, but could be interesting to research more. So maybe eat your green veggies, they might save you ???? In other words, just eat a well balanced diet. You shouldn't have to worry about supplements unless something is seriously wrong, or if you live in a northern climate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 Forget C. Look into D. There is indeed a strong correlation between Covid-19 severe cases and deaths and Vitamin D deficiency. No guarantees but to me it seems like common sense to make sure you're getting enough D either from sunlight or supplements. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Virt Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Blumpie said: In other words, just eat a well balanced diet. You shouldn't have to worry about supplements unless something is seriously wrong, or if you live in a northern climate. I consider bacon essentiel so I might benefit from some supplements ???? Veggies are not my best friend. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onebir Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Virt said: Long live the bum gun. Take high enough dose vit C, and YOU become a bum gun... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proboscis Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 hours ago, internationalism said: Up to 2g of vit C can be taken daily as a food supplement, to boost narural intake and improve immune system. Higher doses and by injection can be prescribed by doctor, rather during treatment, than as prevention. as prevention it would have to be given every day, as this vitamin doesn't accumulate in the body for long. Doses for injection in thailand are only 500mg, so anything bigger would be given as a drip. but punishing clinics for false claims is stupid and counterproductive, just a show of power by authorities. Making a statement by this anti-fake news centre only propagates this treatment. Only very few people would otherwise heard of it. vit C is such dose is harmless, as exess will be removed from the body Whilst you are theoretically correct that high doses of vitamin C are not harmful, there are harms involved in clinics making false claims about high dose injects. First, it gives the patient a false sense of security instead of following proper medical protocols. Second, and much more important, injections of vitamins should be avoided except in the case of the extremely ill in a hospital setting. Vitamin injections are difficult to keep safe and go off very easily. And any medical intervention that is unnecessary is a risk that is unnecessary. Vitamins can be taken orally - much safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Of course not. Everyo knows that is it high doses of vitamin R and P that cure covid and help you loose weight at the same time as winning the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 NO but it can certainly assist in boosting ones immune system which in turn can reduce your chances of getting covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco100 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Vit. D is highly suggested to eventually reinforce the immune sistem and eventually get a milder version of the virus . See John Campbell/ You Tube / Vit D Vit C has a similar function . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiasurfer Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 hours ago, webfact said: 'High doses of Vitamin C cannot prevent Covid-19' By THE NATION Yes. But, but I heard from some other sources that high doses of Sang Som can indeed prevent Covid-19. Sorry cannot find the Link right now... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Marco100 said: Vit. D is highly suggested to eventually reinforce the immune sistem and eventually get a milder version of the virus . See John Campbell/ You Tube / Vit D Vit C has a similar function . Vitamin D is highly suggested if you don't get a lot of sun and live in a northerly climate. It is the ONE thing that I take in the winter only because I live in a northerly climate. Too much vitamin D is terrible for you. Just remember to follow a doctors advice and for god's sake don't overdo it. Things go from good for you to terrible for your entire body when you OD on it and it's very easy to do with these vitamins. I take 1,000 to 2,000 iu per day dependent on the amount of sunshine and taper off towards when the sun gets stronger. Does it cure COVID? No. Could it help if you have it? Maybe. Don't believe it will because it's just rumour and there is no confirmed scientific evidence on it. Does it prevent COVID? Absolutely not. Again, if you need vitamin C why not just eat an apple? It's much better for you than taking supplements, cheaper, and much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Blumpie said: Vitamin D is highly suggested if you don't get a lot of sun and live in a northerly climate. It is the ONE thing that I take in the winter only because I live in a northerly climate. Too much vitamin D is terrible for you. Just remember to follow a doctors advice and for god's sake don't overdo it. Things go from good for you to terrible for your entire body when you OD on it and it's very easy to do with these vitamins. I take 1,000 to 2,000 iu per day dependent on the amount of sunshine and taper off towards when the sun gets stronger. Does it cure COVID? No. Could it help if you have it? Maybe. Don't believe it will because it's just rumour and there is no confirmed scientific evidence on it. Does it prevent COVID? Absolutely not. Again, if you need vitamin C why not just eat an apple? It's much better for you than taking supplements, cheaper, and much easier. I don't think it's actually "easy" to overdo Vitamin D but yes it is possible. You'd have to take megadoses of it for a long time to do that. As far as sunlight, yes that's the most common source (getting it from diet is not realistic) but keep in mind there are many factors that suppress absorbing the vitamin meaning they need more (sunlight and/or supplements) to get to the optimum levels. For examples, old age and obesity. 9 things that can undermine your vitamin D level - Harvard Health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 A troll post trolling about injecting bleach has been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I don't think it's actually "easy" to overdo Vitamin D but yes it is possible. You'd have to take megadoses of it for a long time to do that. As far as sunlight, yes that's the most common source (getting it from diet is not realistic) but keep in mind there are many factors that suppress absorbing the vitamin meaning they need more (sunlight and/or supplements) to get to the optimum levels. For examples, old age and obesity. 9 things that can undermine your vitamin D level - Harvard Health Very interesting link and thanks for sharing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nglodnig Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) On 1/22/2021 at 2:48 PM, Jingthing said: Forget C. Look into D. There is indeed a strong correlation between Covid-19 severe cases and deaths and Vitamin D deficiency. No guarantees but to me it seems like common sense to make sure you're getting enough D either from sunlight or supplements. Indeed. It is believed many if not most people wintering in Northern areas are suffering from Vit-D deficiency (actually not a vitamin but a hormone being pedantic) and a supplement is recommended. Edited January 24, 2021 by nglodnig anally obsessed with spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Z Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 9:30 AM, internationalism said: Up to 2g of vit C can be taken daily as a food supplement, to boost narural intake and improve immune system. Higher doses and by injection can be prescribed by doctor, rather during treatment, than as prevention. as prevention it would have to be given every day, as this vitamin doesn't accumulate in the body for long. Doses for injection in thailand are only 500mg, so anything bigger would be given as a drip. but punishing clinics for false claims is stupid and counterproductive, just a show of power by authorities. Making a statement by this anti-fake news centre only propagates this treatment. Only very few people would otherwise heard of it. vit C is such dose is harmless, as exess will be removed from the body Prevention of what? A normal diet provides enough vitamin C, anything more is excreted with urine, not causing stones by the way. There is no evidence for an effect, whatever that may be, on the immune system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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