Popular Post sirineou Posted January 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, impulse said: Show me in the Constitution where it says we can't vote for Trump in 2024. I looked. Don't see it... You guys hate Trump so much you're willing to let them erode our voting rights just to keep him from running in 2024. 14th amendment chapter 3 Edited January 23, 2021 by sirineou 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 3:28 AM, impulse said: You're saying he'd be free to do whatever he wants in his last few weeks, free of the threat of impeachment. That's not true. You know you are responding to "Not really? who are real Americans then and who are fake Americans? " Right? Edited January 25, 2021 by onthedarkside flame comment removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 3:38 AM, sirineou said: You know you are responding to "Not really? who are real Americans then and who are fake Americans? " Right? I was responding to this part of the post... If it was the case that a president could not be impeached and tried after he left office, a president would be free to do whatever he wanted in the last couple of weeks in office. If he were to shoot someone in his last week, you figure his only consequence would be to be impeached and barred from running again? I normally won't be baited into a divisive (and stupid) discussion about who are real and who are fake Americans. But if I were, I'd say, like it or not... every citizen is a real American. Even the ones we don't agree with. Even the ones who would vote Trump in 2024. Edited January 25, 2021 by onthedarkside response to flame removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, impulse said: Show me in the Constitution where it says we can't vote for Trump in 2024. I looked. Don't see it... You guys hate Trump so much you're willing to let them erode our voting rights just to keep him from running in 2024. As far as I understand the senate has to vote twice if they want to remove Trumps possibility to run again. First they have to get the 2/3 of the votes for the impeachment and then a separate one that could ban him for good. Or did I misunderstand something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, impulse said: I was responding to this part of the post... If it was the case that a president could not be impeached and tried after he left office, a president would be free to do whatever he wanted in the last couple of weeks in office. If he were to shoot someone in his last week, you figure his only consequence would be to be impeached and barred from running again? I normally won't be baited into a divisive (and stupid) discussion about who are real and who are fake Americans. But if I were, I'd say, like it or not... every citizen is a real American. Even the ones we don't agree with. Even the ones who would vote Trump in 2024. BTW, love the personal attack when ya got nothing on substance. Speaks volumes about character... No you were not, the post you are quoting was a previous post, below is a screen shot of what you were responding too. But if you want to respond my other post " If it was the case that a president could not be impeached and tried after he left office, a president would be free to do whatever he wanted in the last couple of weeks in office. " The post referred to impeachable offences, "Alexander Hamilton, in explaining the Constitution's impeachment provisions, described impeachable offenses as arising from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. " and not specifically criminal behaviour that the legal system could address after he leaves office. Edited January 23, 2021 by sirineou 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, impulse said: Show me in the Constitution where it says we can't vote for Trump in 2024. I looked. Don't see it... You guys hate Trump so much you're willing to let them erode our voting rights just to keep him from running in 2024. Lots of folks love their country more than trump he tryed to destroy our democracy on a straight up lie trumps minion is the guy that tryed to cripple the post office remember?trumps minions are the ones desperately trying to disenfranchise voters and get over the trump safety word hate ehh enough he belongs in prison or worse we don’t tolerate insurrectionists or traitors he is what he is 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 Seems many in the GOP are now against impeachment. Doesn't look like it will go through. Spineless Bast***s. Putting their political future against the future of our nation. The GOP desperately needs to reform. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Seems many in the GOP are now against impeachment. Doesn't look like it will go through. Spineless Bast***s. Putting their political future against the future of our nation. The GOP desperately needs to reform. I sincerely hope 45 creates the "Patriot" party. That will completely destroy the Republican party. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, J Town said: I sincerely hope 45 creates the "Patriot" party. That will completely destroy the Republican party. If they don't fully impeach him, with the follow on case to make sure he can't run again, I don't think he'll do that. He wants to run again, or, be head of the GOP. In some form or another. Which will just create more chaos and disunity in the US. Trumpism needs to be killed off. Politicians need to start telling the truth. Hopefully, the current process of trying to hold Cruz and Hawley accountable for their lies will happen. https://www.npr.org/2021/01/22/959499144/senate-democrats-file-ethics-complaint-against-cruz-hawley-after-capitol-riot Senate Democrats File Ethics Complaint Against Cruz, Hawley After Capitol Riot 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, impulse said: Show me in the Constitution where it says we can't vote for Trump in 2024. I looked. Don't see it... You guys hate Trump so much you're willing to let them erode our voting rights just to keep him from running in 2024. That you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there, 14th amendment. You love Trump so much that you make baseless comments like he has done all his life. Edited January 24, 2021 by FritsSikkink 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 hours ago, impulse said: Show me in the Constitution where it says we can't vote for Trump in 2024. I looked. Don't see it... You guys hate Trump so much you're willing to let them erode our voting rights just to keep him from running in 2024. But you were OK with the GOP eroding voting rights this past election? Taking out drop boxes, reducing mail in voting, blocking out people of color... Very one sided. At least admit the GOP are the worst when it comes to gerrymandering. They know very well, without it, they'll never get another president. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: But you were OK with the GOP eroding voting rights this past election? Taking out drop boxes, reducing mail in voting, blocking out people of color... Very one sided. At least admit the GOP are the worst when it comes to gerrymandering. They know very well, without it, they'll never get another president. Not just president. Congress and Senate elections would go full on Democrat in any fair election. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 More congressmen to get rid of. Disgusting. Impossible to defend this. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/politics/scott-perry-trump-justice-department-election.html Pennsylvania Lawmaker Played Key Role in Trump’s Plot to Oust Acting Attorney General The involvement of Representative Scott Perry underlined how far the former president was willing to go in using the government to subvert the election, turning to more junior and relatively unknown figures for help. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: More congressmen to get rid of. Disgusting. Impossible to defend this. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/politics/scott-perry-trump-justice-department-election.html Pennsylvania Lawmaker Played Key Role in Trump’s Plot to Oust Acting Attorney General The involvement of Representative Scott Perry underlined how far the former president was willing to go in using the government to subvert the election, turning to more junior and relatively unknown figures for help. And now that 45 has been muzzled and defanged, people are eager and willing to testify. He's going down hotter and faster than the Hindenburg! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Thingamabob said: Kindness, generosity of spirit, and grace ? You're joking. I am dead serious, how else would you describe Biden? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RocketDog Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 6:31 AM, spidermike007 said: This impeachment is important. All hopes of a Trump return in 2024 must be extinguished now. Same goes for his entire family. They are all beyond toxic, and may their name remain radioactive for decades to come. The world needs hope, not the hatred and division these people sow. Apparently they are not toxic or radioactive enough or extra processes would be unnecessary. I personally want to see him and his family pay the maximum price for savaging our government and society. However, it is, and should be, up to the American electorate to identify and eliminate these babies in the cradle. We've all witnessed the harm even such a baby can wreak. The price of democracy is eternal vigilance and large-scale voter participation. We failed that burden in 2016 and both those who voted and those that didn't share the blame. Hopefully the sting of that negligence will serve a purpose. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, spidermike007 said: I am dead serious, how else would you describe Biden? As you know, these guys get their "facts" from the fake news right wing media outlets. Clueless.... 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, RocketDog said: However, it is, and should be, up to the American electorate to identify and eliminate these babies in the cradle. Everyone in the capitol was elected by the people. Only right and proper that they should roast the pig on behalf of the electorate. That's democracy in action, something that's been sadly lacking for the last 4 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bob999999 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 Russia Russia Russia. Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine. Now it is inciting violence in the Capitol building - when he clearly said 'patriotically and peacefully'. Bring on Nov 2022 when the People will reverse this madness brought on by Covid. Hopefully Covid will be over by then ............................. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, bob999999 said: Bring on Nov 2022 when the People will reverse this madness brought on by Covid. Hopefully Covid will be over by then So you're blaming Covid for Trump supporters endlessly chanting "Stop the steal"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bob999999 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, polpott said: So you're blaming Covid for Trump supporters endlessly chanting "Stop the steal"? No Covid in 2020 and Trump is the POTUS. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bob999999 Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 13 hours ago, Jingthing said: Yes. Impeachment and Mr. trump will be forever linked. Try googling impeachment and then do image search. There he is! American children in perpetuity (if the democracy survives) will be learning what a president should NOT be by the example of Mr. trump. In that he trumped Nixon! 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. 1 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. I guess if you've got nothing useful to say about the present, one recourse is to predict the future. That's the great thing about predictions, they're fundamentally irrefutable. And unproveable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPapillon Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 12 hours ago, impulse said: So what you're telling me is that the Constitution is currently going around making back room deals to decide how to vote? oh wait, that would be so undemocratic ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. Do you or those GOP senators have already any crimes in mind which Biden and Harris will have allegedly committed until then? Or does it not really matter? Impeach them! Do it! Invite a reason. And you and those GOP senators pretend they support law and order. Disgusting! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. How's life on trump fantasy island? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy from Kent Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. Bob, you can't imagine how silly this sounds to anyone who is reasonably intelligent. It's only good for a small chuckle. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) On 1/24/2021 at 3:41 PM, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. Get in line Bob. Crazy QAnon lawmaker Greene got in front of you. Edited January 27, 2021 by onthedarkside trolling comment removed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted January 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, bob999999 said: 2022. GOP wins House and gets back the Senate. Biden and Harris are impeached - and unlike Trump they will be found guilty (both Houses vote). McConnell warned the Dems about chasing impeachment for politics - but they were too stupid to understand. When GOP gets back House and Senate they are going to fight Fire with Fire. And it will not be before time. Howz that work when the Patriot Party suck away enough votes so that the GOP never wins again? ???? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, mikebike said: Howz that work when the Patriot Party suck away enough votes so that the GOP never wins again? ???? That's what we're hoping for. That's what has the GOP soiling themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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