O type visa extension based on marriage...multiple entry visa possible?

[bamboozled]

I'm confused on this point. I've had a 6 or 7 O visas based on marriage for the past years but always got a new one out of the country and always applied for a multiple entry. I am now doing my first extension since leaving the country is impossible and waiting for immigration to come for the house visit. I had written "multi-entry" on the application form but in the end paid only 1900 baht and the officer talked about re-entry forms. Am I to understand that there is no such thing as multiple entry visa with the marriage extension? I would rather pay to have that and not have the hassle or worry of having to obtain a reentry pass if and when I exit the country. What happens, for example, if I am in Mae Sai and decide I want to pop over to Tachilek to buy some fake viagra? Do I have to get a reentry permit and can that be had quickly and easily at the border there?

 

Thanks people!

[tonray]

4 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

I'm confused on this point. I've had a 6 or 7 O visas based on marriage for the past years but always got a new one out of the country and always applied for a multiple entry. I am now doing my first extension since leaving the country is impossible and waiting for immigration to come for the house visit. I had written "multi-entry" on the application form but in the end paid only 1900 baht and the officer talked about re-entry forms. Am I to understand that there is no such thing as multiple entry visa with the marriage extension? I would rather pay to have that and not have the hassle or worry of having to obtain a reentry pass if and when I exit the country. What happens, for example, if I am in Mae Sai and decide I want to pop over to Tachilek to buy some fake viagra? Do I have to get a reentry permit and can that be had quickly and easily at the border there?

 

Thanks people!

Fake Viagra aside...you can purchase a multi entry 're-entry' permit to allow multiple visits for the duration of your extension

[jacko45k]

6 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Am I to understand that there is no such thing as multiple entry visa with the marriage extension?

You have to obtain a re-entry permit to allow you to leave Thailand and return without losing your Extension, it is not the same as a Visa. Single 1000 baht, multiple 3800.

[ubonjoe]

You can get a re-entry permit either airport in Bangkok on departure from the country 24 hours a day or at some others in the country but there opening hours are not always clear.

They a can also be obtained at a few large border crossings such as Nong Khai and Poi Pet.

You can apply for a single re-entry permit at immigration for a fee of 1000 baht that will be valid until your extension expires. Or a multiple for 3800 baht.

[bamboozled]

Thank you everybody. So when I go back to get the visa in a month or so, I can at that time purchase either a single reentry or a multiple reentry pass, yes? For the single, does it have a date on it such as I am exiting the country on this day and returning on that day? Or can I purchase it and it is valid for any time while the extension is valid? That way, if I have a sudden whim to exit the country I am good to go? I think Ubonjoe you are saying that yes, it can then be used at any time. And can just purchase another reentry permit after that one for another 1000 baht? The multi-entry O visa is, or was, 5k. Has that price changed? If not, I'm just curious why the multi for the extension is more expensive. Anyway, don't sweat the small stuff. What do most folks do that have this extension? I don't leave the country all that often but it's kind of nice having the multi and then not having to worry about it any longer. Maybe I don't want the fake viagra but if I'm in Mae Sai I might want to pop over to get some booze at the duty free.

[DrJack54]

OP, your mixing up two visas. You currently cannot obtain a ME marriage. 

You have an annual extension. Permission of stay as shown in your pp. If you exit Thailand and wish to re-enter you will need to purchase a reentry permit. Easily obtained and costs outlined above in this thread. They are valid to the date of your current POS. If you obtain a single permit it is used as soon as you reenter. If you wish to exit again you would purchase another. 

Many folk just obtain a multiple. Very easy process at airport on your way out.

[bamboozled]

Thanks Dr. Jack. Never had the extension before so new to me. If I obtain the multi reentry permit, is there a different process at the airport than there is with the multi entry O visa? With that visa, I did nothing extra. Just came and went with no extra stop or frills. Is it not the same with the reentry permit? That is, once you actually have it? Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

15 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

If I obtain the multi reentry permit, is there a different process at the airport than there is with the multi entry O visa? With that visa,

No

The only difference is that you put your re-entry permit number on the arrival card instead of a visa number.

Edit: Before getting a multiple re-entry permit you might want to think about the fact you might not be able to use it enough to get the full benefit of it at this time. It may be a long time before you will be able to leave and the re-enter the country easily. 

[bamboozled]

Wonderful, so business as usual if I get the multi. Thanks fellers!

 

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Wonderful, so business as usual if I get the multi. Thanks fellers!

 

I did a edit to my post you might want to read. I think getting a single entry might be best incase you needed to make a urgent trip.

[Tmoney]

Where at Suvarnabhumi do you go to get the re-entry permits please?

 

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, Tmoney said:

Where at Suvarnabhumi do you go to get the re-entry permits please?

 

After security before the immigration desks in immigration zone 2.

[bamboozled]

Joe, you're right. I've just always had the multi in the past and I never thought twice about coming and going. You're right in that things are different right now and no one can say when that will change. If things do change within the year, I could see myself screwing up and leaving without remembering the reentry permit and voiding my visa. Such as I mentioned before, being in Mae Sai and jumping over to Tachilek. I would hope the officers would bring it to my attention. The fact that it voids your visa is, seemingly, silly. Why not just charge 1000 baht upon reentry? Well that's the life. Some things don't make sense.

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Joe, you're right. I've just always had the multi in the past and I never thought twice about coming and going. You're right in that things are different right now and no one can say when that will change. If things do change within the year, I could see myself screwing up and leaving without remembering the reentry permit and voiding my visa. Such as I mentioned before, being in Mae Sai and jumping over to Tachilek. I would hope the officers would bring it to my attention. The fact that it voids your visa is, seemingly, silly. Why not just charge 1000 baht upon reentry? Well that's the life. Some things don't make sense.

Makes perfect sense to me. Seems your making easy difficult. There is no reason to "forget" obtaining a re-entry permit. Also you have option of single or multiple entry.

BTW reentry permit at Don Mueang is just past passport control whereas at Swampy it's just prior.

[ubonjoe]

12 hours ago, bamboozled said:

You're right in that things are different right now and no one can say when that will change. If things do change within the year, I could see myself screwing up and leaving without remembering the reentry permit and voiding my visa. Such as I mentioned before, being in Mae Sai and jumping over to Tachilek.

I think it will be a long time before you can just do a border hop and come back when border crossing open again.

I think it will require a covid 19 test both ways to do it at first.

You could get a single re-entry permit so you would not have to worry about it and or if you had to make a urgent trip out of the country.

[bamboozled]

Good idea, Joe. And as Dr. Jack said, I'm probably making a big deal out of it. But it's good to get the lay of the land and know how other people navigate. Thanks!

[Tanoshi]

12 hours ago, bamboozled said:

I could see myself screwing up and leaving without remembering the reentry permit and voiding my visa. Such as I mentioned before, being in Mae Sai and jumping over to Tachilek. I would hope the officers would bring it to my attention. The fact that it voids your visa is, seemingly, silly. Why not just charge 1000 baht upon reentry? Well that's the life. Some things don't make sense.

Your Non Imm O ME was a Visa, obtained at a Thai Embassy/Consulate.

It allowed entries of only 90 days and you did not submit 90 day reports, instead leaving the Country and obtaing another 90 day stay on re-entry during the Visa validity period.

 

What you have now is a 'permit' obtained at local Immigration, which permits you to stay for 1 year.

You have extended your permission of stay (from a 90 day entry) for 1 year.

You now submit 90 day reports instead of having to leave the Country.

It does not allow re-entries, but as explained you can purchase a separate re-entry permit, which on re-entry keeps any permission of stay you were granted alive.

If your extension was valid from say 1/1/202 - 31/12/2021 and you left then re-entered again in April, you would be stamped in again until 31/12/2021.

 

[bamboozled]

Understood. I see it's not so complicated. Just new to me and covering the bases. Here's one: If I purchase a reentry pass and leave and come back just before the year extension expires, do I get a new 90 days such as one could do with a new O visa? Or will the extension still expire on the original date?

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Understood. I see it's not so complicated. Just new to me and covering the bases. Here's one: If I purchase a reentry pass and leave and come back just before the year extension expires, do I get a new 90 days such as one could do with a new O visa? Or will the extension still expire on the original date?

The latter.

Note prior to your permission of stay ending you would obtain a 'new' 12 month extension. That will commence when your current permit ends. Most folk apply for that a few weeks prior to it expiring. 

[Tanoshi]

10 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Understood. I see it's not so complicated. Just new to me and covering the bases. Here's one: If I purchase a reentry pass and leave and come back just before the year extension expires, do I get a new 90 days such as one could do with a new O visa? Or will the extension still expire on the original date?

You cannot be stamped in beyond your current permission of stay.

You cannot be granted permission of stay beyond the expiry date of your Passport either.

You can apply for another 1 year extension up to 30 days (45 days certain offices) prior to the expiry date of your current permission of stay.

[ubonjoe]

12 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Here's one: If I purchase a reentry pass and leave and come back just before the year extension expires, do I get a new 90 days such as one could do with a new O visa? Or will the extension still expire on the original date?

Every time you use a re-entry permit for entry you are stamped in up to the day your extension ends. Your re-entry permit will expire on that day.

Just forget everything about a multiple entry non-o visa that is only issued by a embassy or consulate since you are now one a one year extension of stay issued by immigration.

[bamboozled]

Got it! One last question slightly off topic (the famous "just one last question"). For the house visit, do the officers make a tour of the house and look over everything or we just meet in the main room and answer a few questions?  Thank you!

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Got it! One last question slightly off topic (the famous "just one last question"). For the house visit, do the officers make a tour of the house and look over everything or we just meet in the main room and answer a few questions?

That varies dependent upon the officer doing the house visit. Many just have a quick look and have you sign that the came and picture of you shown together with wife and them.

I don't think they ever look over everything.

[bamboozled]

Thanks again, Joe. I'm using it as a motivator for getting the house/yard in order as it is sorely due and wondering how deep I must dive into the mess. When suddenly you're expecting "guests" you may look around and realize your living space needs some TLC.