Popular Post snoop1130 12,665 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 China says U.S. military in South China Sea not good for peace By Cate Cadell Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian attends a news conference in Beijing, China September 10, 2020. REUTERS/Carlos Garcia Rawlins/File Photo BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States often sends ships and aircraft into the South China Sea to "flex its muscles" and this is not good for peace, China's Foreign Ministry said on Monday, after a U.S. aircraft carrier group sailed into the disputed waterway. The strategic South China Sea, through which trillions of dollars in trade flows each year, has long been a focus of contention between Beijing and Washington, with China particularly angered by U.S. military activity there. The U.S. carrier group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt and accompanied by three warships, entered the waterway on Saturday to promote "freedom of the seas", the U.S. military said, just days after Joe Biden became U.S. president. "The United States frequently sends aircraft and vessels into the South China Sea to flex its muscles," the foreign ministry spokesman, Zhao Lijian, told reporters, responding to the U.S. mission. "This is not conducive to peace and stability in the region." China has repeatedly complained about U.S. Navy ships getting close to islands it occupies in the South China Sea, where Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines, Brunei and Taiwan all have competing claims. The carrier group entered the South China Sea at the same time as Chinese-claimed Taiwan reported incursions by Chinese air force jets into the southwestern part of its air defence identification zone, prompting concern from Washington. China has not commented on what its air force was doing, and Zhao referred questions to the defence ministry. He reiterated China's position that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China and that the United States should abide by the "one China" principle. Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen visited a radar base in the north of the island on Monday, and praised its ability to track Chinese forces, her office said. "From last year until now, our radar station has detected nearly 2,000 communist aircraft and more than 400 communist ships, allowing us to quickly monitor and drive them away, and fully guard the sea and airspace," she told officers. Biden's new administration says the U.S. commitment to Taiwan is "rock-solid". The United States, like most countries, has no formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan but is the democratic island's most important international backer and main arms supplier, to China's anger. -- © Copyright Reuters 2021-01-25 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Salerno 4,532 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: "This is not conducive to peace and stability in the region." But building military bases on islands/building islands for military bases in water that doesn't belong to you or flying military aircraft into airspace you don't have jurisdiction over is? 33 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tropicalevo 6,322 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 (edited) Pots calling 'tea cups' black. The US (and others) are not even in the same league as dictatorial China invades the South China Seas. Ask Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia etc what they think of this Chinese invasion. Edited January 25 by Tropicalevo 16 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post BangkokReady 1,547 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 38 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: "This is not conducive to peace and stability in the region." Let me guess, China's little sojourns (both military and economic) into the waters of nearby countries is? 14 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dagfinnur Traustason 1,442 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 46 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: after a U.S. aircraft carrier group sailed into the disputed waterway. Yes, there we have it! Chinese understanding must not be at top. Disputed, is the magic word! Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jeffr2 9,917 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 11 hours ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said: Yes, there we have it! Chinese understanding must not be at top. Disputed, is the magic word! It's not disputed unless you only listen to the Chinese. The world court ruled and China is ignoring the ruling. The islands do NOT belong to them. You should read this to get up to speed on what this legal ruling is: https://www.lawfareblog.com/tribunal-issues-landmark-ruling-south-china-sea-arbitration Bottom line: A nearly across-the-board win for the Philippines, and a searing verdict on the lawfulness of China’s artificial island construction and other actions in the South China Sea. 15 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tug 22,364 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Steady on ship mate!damm the torpedoes full speed ahead lol no China it’s you trying to push the smaller country’s around I hope we ( the United States) with our nato allies definitely and with great strength make our presence known 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ROGER DUNN 130 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 China Should Not take over Something that isn’t theirs , they are the ones that are provoking the rest of the world ! 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post thailand49 2,460 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Deflection 101 from the " Art of War " 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post UncleMhee 591 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Of course you all seem to think it's just fine and dandy for the US of A and it's military industrial complex to have a heap of bases crowding out areas they have no real legitimacy to be in..... It's the Western Pacific in the Asian Sphere of Influence 4 2 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Salerno 4,532 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 Just saw Xi's Davos speech ... I swear his nose was growing with every word he spoke. Quote To engage in cliques, a new Cold War, exclusion, threats and intimidation against others, to warn of decoupling, cutting off supplies, sanctions at every turn … can only drive the world to division and even conflict. Just after sending eight nuclear-capable H-6K bombers with a fighter escort to threaten and intimidate Taiwan? Quote We should advocate fair competition, like competing with each other for excellence in a racing field, not beating each other on a wrestling arena. After blocking Australian wine, coal, timber, barley, lobsters etc. for daring to call for an independent investigation into the origin of covid-19? When he gets voted out ... oh, wait a minute ... OK, as a sideline, perhaps he can write fairy tales. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/xi-jinping-calls-for-open-world-econony-coronavirus-fight-davos/13090730 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dagfinnur Traustason 1,442 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said: It's not disputed unless you only listen to the Chinese. The world court ruled and China is ignoring the ruling. The islands do NOT belong to them. You should read this to get up to speed on what this legal ruling is: https://www.lawfareblog.com/tribunal-issues-landmark-ruling-south-china-sea-arbitration Bottom line: A nearly across-the-board win for the Philippines, and a searing verdict on the lawfulness of China’s artificial island construction and other actions in the South China Sea. Thank you for you sincere will to educate me, Sir! I am well aware of the ruling, and that China does not recognize the verdict. The question is if you are aware of the meaning of the word "dispute/disputed"? Below, I have provided the meaning: argue about (something). For example: "the point has been much disputed" Similarities with: debate, dicuss, argue, disagree, quarrel and clash etc.So, when we have that out of the way, disputed suddenly seems like a perfect description of the situation. Of course the countries of the world should accept the world courts rulings. However, there is no power at all behind them and they are only, according to law in most countries, to be seen as a strong advice. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
TKDfella 2,179 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/26/2021 at 8:44 AM, UncleMhee said: Of course you all seem to think it's just fine and dandy for the US of A and it's military industrial complex to have a heap of bases crowding out areas they have no real legitimacy to be in..... It's the Western Pacific in the Asian Sphere of Influence Err, have you forgotten that the British HMS Albion etc. is in the same area.? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jeffr2 9,917 Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 19 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said: Thank you for you sincere will to educate me, Sir! I am well aware of the ruling, and that China does not recognize the verdict. The question is if you are aware of the meaning of the word "dispute/disputed"? Below, I have provided the meaning: argue about (something). For example: "the point has been much disputed" Similarities with: debate, dicuss, argue, disagree, quarrel and clash etc.So, when we have that out of the way, disputed suddenly seems like a perfect description of the situation. Of course the countries of the world should accept the world courts rulings. However, there is no power at all behind them and they are only, according to law in most countries, to be seen as a strong advice. But it's not disputed. The court ruled. China should respect the ruling and the rights of these other countries. Sadly, it's not. 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Loh 20,593 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 hours ago, Salerno said: But building military bases on islands/building islands for military bases in water that doesn't belong to you or flying military aircraft into airspace you don't have jurisdiction over is? There is much difference in building on unclaimed reefs and connect them to made an artificial island. It is a concern but within the legal context. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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