Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 Good job Thailand. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Anutin and the Thai people for their hard work in keeping all us expats healthy and safe. Nice to see Australia in the top ten also and our kiwi cousins. I hope the other countries can follow our lead and this whole covid nightmare will soon be over. https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/the-countries-that-handled-covid19-pandemic-the-worst-revealed/news-story/1c630aa87ddebecdeb7534ce92416fd2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I see it's mostly the island nations that do well, except of course for basket case Britain. How difficult should it be to quarantine an island !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Henryford said: I see it's mostly the island nations that do well, except of course for basket case Britain. How difficult should it be to quarantine an island !! They have a lot to answer for. More than 1,700 dead just yesterday in the UK. Getting worse, not better, they have a long way to go. They were aware of the new highly contagious UK super strain months ago, but did nothing about it and it has now spread around the globe killing thousands of people. Being an island nation definitely is an advantage, with 6 of the top ten being islands. It looks like Thailand has controlled this current outbreak. Anutin will be deservedly proud of himself. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: I hope the other countries can follow our lead and this whole covid nightmare will soon be over. The lead now is vaccination, thats how the pandemic will end, hows Thailand doing on that scale? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The lead now is vaccination, thats how the pandemic will end, hows Thailand doing on that scale? Exceptionally well. Vaccinations will commence in about 2 weeks, firstly with front line medical workers, the elderly and those who are high risk with medical conditions. Thailand leads South East Asia in regards to medical facilities with medical tourism previously providing first rate health care for people from around the globe bringing in billions of baht, and will be one of the few countries actually producing vaccines to not only supply the Thai people but will also export tens of millions of doses for export not for profit. Additionally people living in Thailand will be able to choose which vaccine they feel most comfortable taking. You can’t ask for much more than that. Thanks for you question. Edited January 28, 2021 by Natai Beach 2 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Natai Beach said: Exceptionally well. ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Natai Beach said: They have a lot to answer for. More than 1,700 dead just yesterday in the UK. Getting worse, not better, they have a long way to go. They were aware of the new highly contagious UK super strain months ago, but did nothing about it and it has now spread around the globe killing thousands of people. Being an island nation definitely is an advantage, with 6 of the top ten being islands. It looks like Thailand has controlled this current outbreak. Anutin will be deservedly proud of himself. The first very contagious strain was discovered in the UK but it's by no means certain it originated there.It was discovered because the UK is the world leader in genome sequencing of viruses and has provided the majority of information to the world database.It untrue to suggest the UK did nothing.It immediately passed on the new information.Don't talk on subjects on which you are ignorant please. It is true that the UK's record in managing the virus is poor but it's absurd to compare with countries like New Zealand.Or rather by all means compare but be aware of the differences that make facile comparisons useless.UK's biggest failure - other than government dithering - was not to have closed down borders for a period.Also critical is the UK's obesity crisis tied into hypertension, diabetes and heart issues.I'm sceptical of the systemic racism bandwagon but clearly ethnic minorities (Afro- Caribbean and South Asian in particular) have been very badly hit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PFMills Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Natai Beach said: They have a lot to answer for. More than 1,700 dead just yesterday in the UK. Getting worse, not better, they have a long way to go. They were aware of the new highly contagious UK super strain months ago, but did nothing about it and it has now spread around the globe killing thousands of people. Being an island nation definitely is an advantage, with 6 of the top ten being islands. It looks like Thailand has controlled this current outbreak. Anutin will be deservedly proud of himself. Maybe you need to check your facts. Your worship of Anutin reminds me of Steven100’s worship of his hero. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Natai Beach said: Good job Thailand. Yes, congratulations on testing the same qty's per million as Uganda, Zimbabwee, Senegal and Ethiopia. Good job ? Shameful more like 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, jayboy said: The first very contagious strain was discovered in the UK but it's by no means certain it originated there.It was discovered because the UK is the world leader in genome sequencing of viruses and has provided the majority of information to the world database.It untrue to suggest the UK did nothing.It immediately passed on the new information.Don't talk on subjects on which you are ignorant please. It is true that the UK's record in managing the virus is poor but it's absurd to compare with countries like New Zealand.Or rather by all means compare but be aware of the differences that make facile comparisons useless.UK's biggest failure - other than government dithering - was not to have closed down borders for a period.Also critical is the UK's obesity crisis tied into hypertension, diabetes and heart issues.I'm sceptical of the systemic racism bandwagon but clearly ethnic minorities (Afro- Caribbean and South Asian in particular) have been very badly hit. You must be from the UK? World leader in sequencing of viruses? Hasn’t really helped much. Not sure how you claim that the UK is the world leader. Sounds like something Boris would say. Looks like Iceland is well ahead of the UK to me. https://www.sciencealert.com/iceland-tracks-and-contains-covid-19-by-genetically-sequencing-every-positive-case The information I have is it most likely originated in Kent. It would be good if they could trace it back to the first patient. I remember the Chinese used the same argument last year. Anyway. How good is Thailand!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmen Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 Outstanding effort Thailand! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Yes, congratulations on testing the same qty's per million as Uganda, Zimbabwee, Senegal and Ethiopia. Good job ? Shameful more like UK have done only 700 tests per death. Thailand has done an incredible 17,000 tests per single death. One of the highest in the world. And were testing and detecting cases back in January last year before any other country outside of China. Nothing to be ashamed about, they have just been ranked 4th best on the planet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, PFMills said: Maybe you need to check your facts. Your worship of Anutin reminds me of Steven100’s worship of his hero. There is a lot of bias against billionaire health minister Anutin on this forum because of his early call warning Thais to be wary of westerners who refused to follow simple rules and because of that they were more likely to contract covid. Nine months later the numbers show he was on the money. If they had listened instead of being outraged 100,000s lives would have been saved. Even if he just saved a single life it would have been worth offending a few thin skinned foreigners. I give credit where credit due. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: There is a lot of bias against billionaire health minister Anutin on this forum because of his early call warning Thais to be wary of westerners who refused to follow simple rules and because of that they were more likely to contract covid. Nine months later the numbers show he was on the money. If they had listened instead of being outraged 100,000s lives would have been saved. Even if he just saved a single life it would have been worth offending a few thin skinned foreigners. I give credit where credit due. Anutin, you're really praising him, the Health Minister who said its just the flu and just act like that when the first cases starting arriving in Thailand. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHdiver Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Thailand did well in fighting Covid, however they let down people affected by closing down Tourism Industry. Very little help for this people from the government. I guess you would find Thailand on the other side of the ranking in this regard. I guess they think all this people are just monkeys, so giving them peanuts is enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Victornoir said: Step by step, the first objective was to limit the contagion and consequently the victims. In this regard the statistics are overwhelming for the West, UK for example: Thailand UK Case 16211 3715054 Death 76 101887 Thailand took drastic measures very quickly at the start of the pandemic. Containment, border closures, temperature control, Quarantine, masks. I remember how much these actions were mocked last year on this forum, as were the controversies over the usefulness of masks. Today we know the result and it is overwhelming. Thailand has well, very well done and in any case better than our native country. Having avoided the health emergency no doubt that they will manage to vaccinate the population without haste, more hindsight on the different protocols. We, mostly old and therefore more at risk, must remain humble and thank them for efficiency. For those of us comfortable here in Thailand with a pension or business where money is not such a large problem then yes thats fine. Measures in Thailand have been drastic yes to contain the virus but its also damaged peoples lives particularly those in the tourism sector and related industries. Economically Thailand needs to get out of this mess quickly. The only way is through vaccination and an effective vaccination plan, not the constantly changing narrative we are being given at present. Please do not try to tell me that 50,000 doses, enough for 25,000 people starting from 14th Feb is an effective plan. The government have already said they do not even intend vaccinating the general public until Jan 2022. Edited January 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Yes, congratulations on testing the same qty's per million as Uganda, Zimbabwee, Senegal and Ethiopia. Good job ? Shameful more like 76 deaths in Thailand, great job. Stop getting your knickers in a twist! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Natai Beach Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, CHdiver said: Thailand did well in fighting Covid, however they let down people affected by closing down Tourism Industry. Very little help for this people from the government. I guess you would find Thailand on the other side of the ranking in this regard. I guess they think all this people are just monkeys, so giving them peanuts is enough. They get their peanuts from the tax payer. I think that has been lost on some. Angela Merkel admits this little splurge will likely take 60 years to repay. With interest! Thailand isn’t going to burden the next three generations with it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post userabcd Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 Quite an achievement. Well done to Thailand and their welcoming, kind, generous and hospitable nation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Natai Beach said: You must be from the UK? World leader in sequencing of viruses? Hasn’t really helped much. Not sure how you claim that the UK is the world leader. Sounds like something Boris would say. Looks like Iceland is well ahead of the UK to me. https://www.sciencealert.com/iceland-tracks-and-contains-covid-19-by-genetically-sequencing-every-positive-case The information I have is it most likely originated in Kent. It would be good if they could trace it back to the first patient. I remember the Chinese used the same argument last year. Anyway. How good is Thailand!!! You seem to be completely out of your depth. For others that are interested please see the New York Times editorial below. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/opinion/coronavirus-uk-strain.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) This is the only chart that matters currently, the only way the world ends the pandemic, not contain it for years to come, I look forward to seeing Thailand on there when they actually start. Edited January 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 And here lies the problem with having a central database of inoculation records. Nearly 100 countries missing from the list. So we have a 95% effective vaccine, travellers forging documentation and only 50% take up in monitoring the figures. What the flip have the WHO being doing for the last 10 months? Still going to be a long haul with this if there's no cohesive world plan. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DaLa said: And here lies the problem with having a central database of inoculation records. Nearly 100 countries missing from the list. So we have a 95% effective vaccine, travellers forging documentation and only 50% take up in monitoring the figures. What the flip have the WHO being doing for the last 10 months? Still going to be a long haul with this if there's no cohesive world plan. If you visit the link you can add more countries to it, its inter active https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations Edited January 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: This is the only chart that matters currently, the only way the world ends the pandemic, not contain it for years to come, I look forward to seeing Thailand on there when they actually start. Surely getting the virus under control is the number one priority and Thailand has clearly excelled in that regard. Once the current flare up is over, as I'm sure it will be soon, they can then vaccinate more or less at their leisure. There's no need to rush when the virus is not rampant in the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Moonlover said: Surely getting the virus under control is the number one priority and Thailand has clearly excelled in that regard. Once the current flare up is over, as I'm sure it will be soon, they can then vaccinate more or less at their leisure. There's no need to rush when the virus is not rampant in the community. Its a tandem process no? Get it under control and get it ended. Vaccinating at their leisure? Well that certainly seems to be the current approach for Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Natai Beach said: There is a lot of bias against billionaire health minister Anutin on this forum because of his early call warning Thais to be wary of westerners who refused to follow simple rules and because of that they were more likely to contract covid. Nine months later the numbers show he was on the money. If they had listened instead of being outraged 100,000s lives would have been saved. Even if he just saved a single life it would have been worth offending a few thin skinned foreigners. I give credit where credit due. No, Auntin is disliked because he is an idiot. He's a construction engineer and billionaire who inherited his wealth, and we all know why he is in his current position. The credit goes to Thailand's broad medical industry and numerous medical institutions including universities, and most importantly to the practical nature of Thai culture. Wear a mask? OK. Wash hands? OK. They may do it with a bit of Thai style but they do it well. Anutin? Probably thinks rebar stops virus particles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Its a tandem process no? Get it under control and get it ended. Vaccinating at their leisure? Well that certainly seems to be the current approach for Thailand It would be a tandem process if the vaccines were available, but they're not. Thailand is not being tardy in this regard. The vaccines simply aren't there. By the way I trust you keep up with the news in the western world. The EU for instance! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Moonlover said: It would be a tandem process if the vaccines were available, but they're not. Thailand is not being tardy in this regard. The vaccines simply aren't there. By the way I trust you keep up with the news in the western world. The EU for instance! They are not here because Thailand dragged its feet even turning away 2 million from India. "Anutin explained that both the Public Health Ministry and the National Vaccine Institute have been dragging their feet over the procurement COVID-19 vaccines for Thai people" https://www.thaipbsworld.com/public-health-ministers-clarification-of-thailands-covid-19-vaccine-deal/ Edited January 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Fairfield Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The topic is now covered in the news forum. Please continue the discussion here: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1203684-thailand-4th-among-98-countries-studied-for-best-response-in-handling-pandemic/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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