EricTh Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand. For people who still won't believe that fake Covid-19 free cert can be purchased, here are the proofs. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54839434 French police have arrested seven people accused of offering fake negative Covid-19 test certificates to departing passengers at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport. https://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/news-and-appeals/arrested-fake-covid-test-jan21#cd03cf6c A man from Luton has been arrested on suspicion of fraud by false representation, in relation to the sale of bogus Covid test certificates. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/11/11/covid-19-tests-people-arrested-selling-fake-results-travelers/6246528002/ With COVID-19 tests becoming a common entry requirement for countries and states, a black market has popped up to serve travelers who need test results taken within a few days of departure. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/01/28/authorities-detect-forged-covid-19-result-slips-used-in-cross-border-travel In a statement on Thursday (Jan 28), KPJ Healthcare Berhad said it has been made aware of reports where falsified or counterfeit results slips using Lablink letterheads had been used in the attempt. Edited January 28, 2021 by EricTh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Moved to the Covid19 forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 Low life's are always around, except they flourish in times of desperation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldie Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 Will the same people supply vaccination passports too? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Oldie said: Will the same people supply vaccination passports too? There's no such thing as a vaccination passport - not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBroker Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 bbc? Yeah.. they would never lie to me. ???? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 hours ago, EricTh said: I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand. The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable. BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's a good sign these people are getting busted. Proof that a quick photo shop and printer as I predicted are not going to cut it. Yes of course a few will get in, more to do with luck than good forgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 hours ago, EricTh said: I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand. For people who still won't believe that fake Covid-19 free cert can be purchased, here are the proofs. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54839434 French police have arrested seven people accused of offering fake negative Covid-19 test certificates to departing passengers at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport. https://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/news-and-appeals/arrested-fake-covid-test-jan21#cd03cf6c A man from Luton has been arrested on suspicion of fraud by false representation, in relation to the sale of bogus Covid test certificates. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/11/11/covid-19-tests-people-arrested-selling-fake-results-travelers/6246528002/ With COVID-19 tests becoming a common entry requirement for countries and states, a black market has popped up to serve travelers who need test results taken within a few days of departure. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/01/28/authorities-detect-forged-covid-19-result-slips-used-in-cross-border-travel In a statement on Thursday (Jan 28), KPJ Healthcare Berhad said it has been made aware of reports where falsified or counterfeit results slips using Lablink letterheads had been used in the attempt. If fake certificates exist then someone could use one to fly to Thailand. However, positive cases in ASQ are likely because a PCR test 72 hrs before departure can only detect people exposed to covid more than 5-6 days prior to departure. This is becasue of incubation time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I'm more wondering about the state of mind of people that would buy one of these certificates, knowing it was fake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: I'm more wondering about the state of mind of people that would buy one of these certificates, knowing it was fake. If you desperately want to go to Thailand and your Covid test is positive, then buying a fake certificate is reasonable or else you won't be able to board the plane to Thailand. Maybe that someone wants to be treated in Thailand or desperately need to be with some loved ones in Thailand etc, being infected with Covid is not a death sentence. Edited January 29, 2021 by EricTh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable. BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?) I read a report in Bangkok Post recently about a British who tested positive soon after arrival. Note that the result takes a few days to process. Arrival date: Dec 25 2020 Tested positive: Dec 29 2020 Died: Jan 24 2021 Because he was tested positive during quarantine, he was hospitalized until his death one month later. Edited January 29, 2021 by EricTh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiujunn Posted January 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, EricTh said: Maybe that someone wants to be treated in Thailand or desperately need to be with some loved ones in Thailand etc, being infected with Covid is not a death sentence. It may be the death sentence for a person that someone infects on the flight, and it certainly is the death sentence for some future person further down the chain of infections started by flying. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, XBroker said: bbc? Yeah.. they would never lie to me. ???? but I wouldn't put it past them to tell a version of the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 11:03 AM, ukrules said: There's no such thing as a vaccination passport - not yet anyway. The WHO style international vaccination certificate should be good enough. It would be cumbersome to have to carry a separate document for every vaccination one gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Puccini said: The WHO style international vaccination certificate should be good enough. It would be cumbersome to have to carry a separate document for every vaccination one gets. No worries - all the information will be in that chip they will implant in your butt ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMilk Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 11:45 PM, richard_smith237 said: The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable. BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?) So you have seen a report of one who died. There have been plenty of reports of foreigners who tested positive. That doesn’t mean the Covid Certificates were fake, it just means they contracted the disease after their test or close enough to the test that it was not identifiable at that stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gafdtomaka366 Posted February 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) On 1/28/2021 at 9:25 AM, EricTh said: I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand. That isn't as much of a cause you think because: * one can contract the virus even 5 minutes later after having taken a test * a test can be false-negative * one can contract virus right before arrival, or in Thailand * if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus more easily versus "without a mask" because gems of the virus get accumulated on a mask Edited February 2, 2021 by gafdtomaka366 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspade Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) On 1/27/2021 at 11:25 PM, EricTh said: I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand. This is highly sus and sounds like typical fearmongering. Where's your proof? I find it more likely they had covid in the hospital and, being older, unhealthy people, later died from the flu/a car accident/heart attack/stroke/alcohol poisoning/drug overdose. Edited February 2, 2021 by jackspade 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 1:56 AM, MrMilk said: How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal That would make too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiujunn Posted February 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 hours ago, gafdtomaka366 said: if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus more easily versus "without a mask" I thought in Thailand, posting fake news about covid 19 is illegal? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFMills Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 7:35 AM, EricTh said: being infected with Covid is not a death sentence Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra666 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 9 hours ago, PFMills said: Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t For a broader reach, tell it to the people who survived. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 4:56 PM, MrMilk said: How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal Because they have already taken the test and tested positive for the virus. That's why they need a fake cert to enter Thailand, is this so difficult to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EricTh Posted February 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 19 hours ago, PFMills said: Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Deaths: 2 million Recovered: 77 million. So it's not a death sentence. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, EricTh said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Deaths: 2 million Recovered: 77 million. So it's not a death sentence. Ah, 3% death rate. Smell that coffee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longway Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) On 2/2/2021 at 8:46 AM, gafdtomaka366 said: That isn't as much of a cause you think because: * one can contract the virus even 5 minutes later after having taken a test * a test can be false-negative * one can contract virus right before arrival, or in Thailand * if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus more easily versus "without a mask" because gems of the virus get accumulated on a mask Also, depend on the protocol for a positive the lab follows. Just bc you are positive doesnt mean you are infectious, or in danger. Its just a convention that has been established. Doesn't mean its a good one. Edited February 4, 2021 by longway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted February 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 hours ago, rabas said: 9 hours ago, EricTh said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Deaths: 2 million Recovered: 77 million. So it's not a death sentence. Ah, 3% death rate. Smell that coffee. Hand anyone a bowl of 100 M&M’s - 2 of them will kill... Anyone up for those odds ? Globally: 103,631,793 cases of Covid-19 / Deaths 2,251,615 = 2.18% - but again, thats highly misleading because far more people may have had Covid-19 without noticing. Many of the deaths reported ‘with Covid-19’ and not ‘because of’. Of course, that is an extremely basic and misleading statistic and what follows is also perhaps misleading and alarming because its based on data collected which itself is misleading due to died with Covid-19 not died because of. Anyone under 40... Offer them a bowl of 500 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Flirting with the odds them seems less risky. Anyone in their 40’s Offer them a bowl of 250 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Riskier odds. Anyone in their 50’s Offer them a bowl of 77 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Anyone ready to play with those odds ? Anyone in their 60’s Offer them a bowl of 28 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Anyone in their 70’s Offer them a bowl of 13 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Anyone over 80 Offer them a bowl of 7 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Thus: Using the UK as an example - I want to use ‘excess deaths’ compared to an average over the past 5 years rather than reported Covid-19 deaths to avoid the misleading ‘died with’ issue. Excess deaths for 2020: ±80,000 Number of Covid-19 Cases: 3,870,000 The UK death rate from Covid-19 of 2.07% backs up the world figure of 2.18%. The statistics show that anyone older than 50 really needs to be very careful. Source of age related deaths data. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, rabas said: Ah, 3% death rate. Smell that coffee. What is the death rate of road accidents? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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