kiwisr Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I’m aware of the obvious physical differences between flat floor, step through scooters like the Honda Click, but why would you spend the extra on something like a PCX? -Less manoueverable -Heavier -More expensive -Less practical (less storage, no bag hooks, no floor space) -In some cases slower (a Suzuki Address 110 is actually faster than no the the PCX and NMAX) I’m interested to hear why people went for these low capacity maxi-scooters over the smaller ones. And maybe some experienced riders can explain, does having the ‘frame’ between your legs mean better ability to control the bike through corners etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) i only just barely fit on a pcx nmax or the handlebar will hit my knees if i attempt to steer, every other sucker is even smaller ages ago the seat used to be flat so i could slide back and sit on the passenger area so it wouldnt happen, but these days its hip to carve out seat positions. same <deleted> is going on in car manufacturing, there is barely a car i can sit in these days Edited February 5, 2021 by scammed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Lots of reasons, I guess, even aside from cost. Cushier, less skitterish or reactive in handling and so forth. Flat floor is just not going to be a stiff as a taller frame - something to do with the moment of inertia, not that stiffness is the be all and end all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Damrongsak said: Lots of reasons, I guess, even aside from cost. Cushier, less skitterish or reactive in handling and so forth. Flat floor is just not going to be a stiff as a taller frame - something to do with the moment of inertia, not that stiffness is the be all and end all. what he talks about has advantages especially for old people, or woman with a skirt /dress for that matter, but as per typical idiocy they are hellbent on building them too small, which i guess can pass in a nation of hobbits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 My Honda Click has great handling, very stable, light, just a great designed bike. I did try a PCX once and instantly didn't like it, felt like sitting in an armchair. My next bike will definitely be a Honda and a step through 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 I prefer the PCX for the stability coming from the weight, specially when you are a bit bigger than in your youth and regularly have adult passengers with you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damrongsak Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Catch the Wave! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 A PCX is more comfortable to ride, the seating position is more cruiser like. It has also more storage space under the seat. Now with the newest PCX 160: It can be bought with ABS (might of course be that Honda will release a Click 160 with ABS in the future) I would say a PCX is objectively "worth it" if you regularly drive for 30 minutes or more at a time. If you only use it for going a few kilometers at a time, you can't objectively "justify" it. But for many people the style does matter more than anything else, so no objective justification required. 3 hours ago, scammed said: i only just barely fit on a pcx nmax or the handlebar will hit my knees if i attempt to steer, every other sucker is even smaller Obviously they are made mostly for asian people, who are rarely taller than 2 meters. If you don't fit on a PCX or NMAX (I know people who are 2 meters who ride them with no problems, so I guess you are taller), then you just have to pay the price for a bike in your size. I guess when flying you also have to pay for business class because you can't sit in economy class, being too tall can be problematic in this world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post popabear Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, scammed said: what he talks about has advantages especially for old people, or woman with a skirt /dress for that matter, Being the owner of both, a PCX here in Australia and a Click in Thailand , I have good experience of the both and for me I prefer the Click any day . 1.. It's cheaper to buy. 2.. Better to step onto for older people like myself. 3.Sits on the road at higher speeds better.(The early model PCX 125 cc, you have to hang onto it at high speed ) 4. It's better for Thai style shopping, with room and hooks to hang things on. 5. It's lighter ,yet sits on road better, with better pick up and a higher speed , much faster 6. Servicing is cheaper( PCX motor is fully enclosed, much more expensive to service in placers like Australia) 7.The Click is much more comfortable to ride(no hump or carved positions on seat, you can move back on seat) 8.Clicks short handle bars gives it more stability , also much better to get between the heavy traffic in Thailand . I like the Click , the one I have is only a 125 cc , same as the PCX , same motor , but I find a floating feeling when riding the PCX , it just does not feel staple on the road, at anything over 60 kmh and if windy, like it gets here in Australia , you really got to hang onto it, the big handle bars don't help. You cannot buy the Click here in Australia , it;s a shame , as I would but one here. Regards ,,,,,Popa Edited February 6, 2021 by popabear 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, popabear said: Being the owner of both, a PCX here in Australia and a Click in Thailand , I have good experience of the both and for me I prefer the Click any day . 1.. It's cheaper to buy. 2.. Better to step onto for older people like myself. 3.Sits on the road at higher speeds better.(The early model PCX 125 cc, you have to hang onto it at high speed ) 4. It's better for Thai style shopping, with room and hooks to hang things on. 5. It's lighter ,yet sits on road better, with better pick up and a higher speed , much faster 6. Servicing is cheaper( PCX motor is fully enclosed, much more expensive to service in placers like Australia) 7.The Click is much more comfortable to ride(no hump or carved positions on seat, you can move back on seat) 8.Clicks short handle bars gives it more stability , also much better to get between the heavy traffic in Thailand . I like the Click , the one I have is only a 125 cc , same as the PCX , same motor , but I find a floating feeling when riding the PCX , it just does not feel staple on the road, at anything over 60 kmh and if windy, like it gets here in Australia , you really got to hang onto it, the big handle bars don't help. You cannot buy the Click here in Australia , it;s a shame , as I would but one here. Regards ,,,,,Popa That's a great summary of the Click which I agree with. Plus yes the floating feeling on the PCX I noticed when I tried for the day and no drink involved 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, popabear said: 5. It's lighter ,yet sits on road better, with better pick up and a higher speed , much faster It has the same engine, a few kgs of weight don't make it "much faster". 15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 6. Servicing is cheaper( PCX motor is fully enclosed, much more expensive to service in placers like Australia) In Thailand both are cheap. 15 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 7.The Click is much more comfortable to ride(no hump or carved positions on seat, you can move back on seat) The seat of newer Click and newer PCX models look nearly the same. 16 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 8.Clicks short handle bars gives it more stability Wider handle bars give more stability, that's a fact. Half of your points are objectively wrong. But it shows how subjective the feeling of a bike can be for some people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, jackdd said: It has the same engine, a few kgs of weight don't make it "much faster". In Thailand both are cheap. The seat of newer Click and newer PCX models look nearly the same. Wider handle bars give more stability, that's a fact. Half of your points are objectively wrong. But it shows how subjective the feeling of a bike can be for some people. For me the Click feels much better than the PCX but it's all personal preference, same with cars. The PCX felt like sitting on a deckchair on wheels not my favourite feeling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Had a Click, to light at the front, then an Airblade, I liked it, then a PCX, was OK, but to me the tyres were to thin and did not absorb road "shock", my back didn't like it, we also at the same time had a Yamaha Grand Filano, that was OK. Sold those and bought the new Yamaha Grand Filano Hybrid ABS, lovely bike, very quiet, comfortable (nice fat tyres), big seat, LED lights, no ignition key (high tech), big under seat storage, fuel filler not under the seat, quick. Nice Scooter... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Interesting to see people have such a different opinions of Click and PCX. I would have thought Click would be better for heavy traffic and inner city, for short rides and shopping, and PCX more stable on long rides and high speed trips on out of town roads, heavier/bigger and more planted with two shocks at the back and heavier front-end etc...., that floating feeling is actually what makes it more comfy on long trips out of town. While Click has a good control and feel on handlebars to zip between cars, parking lots and in small spaces...., and of course Click for old people who don't want to get leg over the center, or skirt wearing chicks or "Scots" ...! ???? Click is a bit lighter and at same cc engine gives slight power to weight ratio advantage, but on highways gets more blown away by side wind or every truck or car that goes by... But try and buy what you prefer, as mentioned a lot is subjective and both of these are excellent and highest selling and most popular bikes here for a reason... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Agusts said: Interesting to see people have such a different opinions of Click and PCX. Majority opinion on this forum re: bikes is from people who have very little experience. Not including the "Don't ride a bike under any circumstances" brigade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 hours ago, scammed said: i only just barely fit on a pcx nmax or the handlebar will hit my knees if i attempt to steer, every other sucker is even smaller ages ago the seat used to be flat so i could slide back and sit on the passenger area so it wouldnt happen, but these days its hip to carve out seat positions. same <deleted> is going on in car manufacturing, there is barely a car i can sit in these days Look for a 2nd hand SH150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Click is best selling bike in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Yamaha Lexi would be considering if your tall Quote worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I don't have a PCX, but I do ride an Earox ('PCX style' so I qualify) and also a Click. Basically I think it's a bit of an unfair comparison because it's a case 'horses for courses' The Click is a great city bike. Highly maneuverable and is the better of the two as a load lugger. We can put a large tote bag on the footplate and fill the under-seat storage and come home with a week's shopping. We can't do that on the Earox. But the Earox wins when it comes to the riding for pleasure and leisure on the open road. It's much more stable than the Click. I notice immediately that I don't have to consciously steer it as I do with the Click and the brakes are much, much better. Click for work, Earox for fun. 2 horses, 2 courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Issanman Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) I have over 50 years of riding experience on over 40 different bikes, up to and including Harleys, BMWs. Also 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6 cylinder Kawasakis. But nowadays I love my scooters (NMax and XMax) Thank you very much. (This is directed at those who think scooters are for inexperienced riders.) Edited February 6, 2021 by Issanman 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, Moonlover said: I don't have a PCX, but I do ride an Earox ('PCX style' so I qualify) and also a Click. Basically I think it's a bit of an unfair comparison because it's a case 'horses for courses' The Click is a great city bike. Highly maneuverable and is the better of the two as a load lugger. We can put a large tote bag on the footplate and fill the under-seat storage and come home with a week's shopping. We can't do that on the Earox. But the Earox wins when it comes to the riding for pleasure and leisure on the open road. It's much more stable than the Click. I notice immediately that I don't have to consciously steer it as I do with the Click and the brakes are much, much better. Click for work, Earox for fun. 2 horses, 2 courses. You made me look up "Earox", all because you repeated it many times, no result from Google....!? What is that...? If you mean Yamaha Aerox that is nothing like PCX, maybe Nmax more like PCX...!!! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Agusts said: You made me look up "Earox", all because you repeated it many times, no result from Google....!? What is that...? If you mean Yamaha Aerox that is nothing like PCX, maybe Nmax more like PCX...!!! ???? Ha Ha, silly me I ride one but I can't spell it! Yes you're right, the Nmax would be a closer comparison, but I don't have one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 16 hours ago, papa al said: Click is best selling bike in Thailand. Honda wave might be giving it competition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alx123 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Not to <deleted> on anyone's choice of bike, I think it's more about preference. I find Click to be so light, especially at the front end, that I find running at a bit higher speed less stable. PCX ain't really that much more expensive to maintain than a Click. My only complain with the PCX is its lack of ABS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talahtnut Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 The Clicks key trick is that you can wedge a carton of 12 Leo bottles on the floor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted February 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, talahtnut said: The Clicks key trick is that you can wedge a carton of 12 Leo bottles on the floor. I've carried a case of 12 cans down there, but I wouldn't be tempted to try it with 12 bottles, but I've seen Thais do it. Maybe I'm a bit too cautious. (or less desperate) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 13 hours ago, taninthai said: Honda wave might be giving it competition Especially now that they've upgraded the 125i with the "New Charming Chrome Sticker". 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post taninthai Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Damrongsak said: Especially now that they've upgraded the 125i with the "New Charming Chrome Sticker". 555 Highly underestimated machine ,,,people buying these new Aerox ,Honda 150 adv and pcx.....this wave will kick there ass top end and be better than the Honda adv scooter on dirt roads???? Edited February 8, 2021 by taninthai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I find the flat floor scooters hand terribly (Fino, Scoopy etc.). They always feel dangerous at anything over 60kph. I think it's a combination of the frame design and the seating position. The step throughs like the Wave and the Exciter feel far superior in terms of ride quality and still very stable around 100kph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 hours ago, taninthai said: Highly underestimated machine ,,,people buying these new Aerox ,Honda 150 adv and pcx.....this wave will kick there ass top end and be better than the Honda adv scooter on dirt roads???? With my Click I'm always passing Waves at traffic lights, they are sluggish away 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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