Popular Post snoop1130 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thai PM defends submarine purchase and explains causes of huge public debt Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has defended the Royal Thai Navy’s 22 billion baht procurement of three Yuan-class submarines from China as being worth the taxpayers’ money, compared to the 24 trillion baht in maritime interests that Thailand is expected to gain. Maintaining that the decision to purchase the submarines was based on national and public interests, he said that they will strengthen Thailand’s maritime capabilities. He also defended the procurement of military equipment, such as night-vision goggles, for Special Forces as being necessary for national defence, adding that those who are not military personnel may not know how important modern military hardware is for the defence of the country. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-pm-defends-submarine-purchase-and-explains-causes-of-huge-public-debt/ 1 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Of course he has defended the purchase of useless subs, the kickbacks must be very BIG. 28 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Who is Thailand defending against with military weapons other than its own people ? 38 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Thai PM defends submarine purchase and explains causes of huge public debt Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has defended the Royal Thai Navy’s 22 billion baht procurement of three Yuan-class submarines from China as being worth the taxpayers’ money, compared to the 24 trillion baht in maritime interests that Thailand is expected to gain. Maintaining that the decision to purchase the submarines was based on national and public interests, he said that they will strengthen Thailand’s maritime capabilities. He also defended the procurement of military equipment, such as night-vision goggles, for Special Forces as being necessary for national defence, adding that those who are not military personnel may not know how important modern military hardware is for the defence of the country. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-pm-defends-submarine-purchase-and-explains-causes-of-huge-public-debt/ Defense of the country against who? 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damrongsak Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 "... 24 trillion baht in maritime interests that Thailand is expected to gain..." Gain what? 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pengo2001 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Damrongsak said: "... 24 trillion baht in maritime interests that Thailand is expected to gain..." Gain what? Gain maritime interests. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pengo2001 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 The gulf of Thailand has an average depth of not more that 50 meters. Can a bigger sub even hide and operate in such a shallow envrionment? 11 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nsp64 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 What is he talking about ? He didnt give any plausible reason for this expenditure. Defend against who ? If there's a legitimate threat then name it. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Without foreign supervision name a tool or machine that is Chinese made that has a reputation for quality. 7 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pengo2001 said: The gulf of Thailand has an average depth of not more that 50 meters. Can a bigger sub even hide and operate in such a shallow envrionment? nah, there for the mekong river to stop the illegal migrant workers crossing into Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phetphet Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Probably going to back up the Chinese defending the Spratly Islands. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaZa9 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Nsp64 said: What is he talking about ? He didnt give any plausible reason for this expenditure. Defend against who ? If there's a legitimate threat then name it. He may be talking about them pesky Laos and their rich Sea-faring Naval History , but it could also all just be a misunderstanding.... 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sailboat32223 said: Without foreign supervision name a tool or machine that is Chinese made that has a reputation for quality. Propaganda! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, Pengo2001 said: The gulf of Thailand has an average depth of not more that 50 meters. Can a bigger sub even hide and operate in such a shallow envrionment? Actually it is 58M and in comparison the north sea is 95M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 a matter of face ? ( bigger sub than some other small country) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, Damrongsak said: "... 24 trillion baht in maritime interests that Thailand is expected to gain..." Gain what? Salt water ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Propaganda, is that a quality Chinese car? Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 8:27 PM, Ireland32 said: Do you really believe that Nonsense 12 hours ago, webfact said: Confusion still reigns about marijuana....Bottom line: smoking it to get high is illegal Picture: Thai Rath Thai media Thai Rath said that confusion still reigns supreme in Thailand about growing pot. They posed the question in their headline "Can you grow marijuana and hemp?" then interviewed Dr Supatra Bunserm of the Food and Drug Administration for clarification. This came in the light of the availability of new strains and the start of a pilot project to grow weed in Buriram in Thailand's north east. These have only muddied the waters further, said the influential media. Despite the removal of certain parts of the plants such as stalks and leaves from the narcotics list, they remain as having the status of narcotics, Supatra said. Strict regulations remain in place about who can grow them. Permission must be sought and they can only be grown for the production of certain medicines or research purposes. In a separate report health minister and DPM Anutin Charnvirakul put his name to five more drugs that can be produced from the plants this week. Regulations on growing are tight. For example growers must specify the location of their plants, have a walled area and have CCTV in place to guard against illegal practices. The bottom line is that only a negligible amount of THC (the drug that makes you high) is permissible rendering most allowable strains as merely hemp. The possession and use of seeds, buds and flowers remains illegal - they are still considered class 5 narcotics. So getting high in Thailand by smoking or otherwise inhaling marijuana containing quantities of THC is illegal. And growing marijuana for recreational purposes or even growing for medical purposes without a licence could see you wind up fined or in jail. The same goes for recreational use so be warned. Soure: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-02-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 11 minutes ago, fangless said: Propaganda! Is this the name of a quality Chinese car? Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 The great thing for him about this debate is if it were more possible to appear more stupid he has succeeded and will claim victory ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Waiting, name a tool or machine that is Chinese made with a good reputation? Manufactured without foreign supervision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: The great thing for him about this debate is if it were more possible to appear more stupid he has succeeded and will claim victory ???? Waiting for an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 A tool shop will warranty any Japanese or American brands. New Chinese tools are sold as is, just like used, no warranty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I am not supporter of submarine or military purchase, but I think many foreign critics in this thread are unfair and do not understand or more likely just want to take kick at Thailand government. Thailand has good reason for the purchases. 1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said: Who is Thailand defending against with military weapons other than its own people ? 1 hour ago, bwpage3 said: Defense of the country against who? To answer the above, Cambodia has had border fight with Thailand in the past. The border with Myanmar is very dangerous with much of the yaba being brought in from Myanmar. The drug cartels have their own armies. In the south we have Islamic insurrection and fighters come across from Malaysia. Thailand needs proper surveillance equipment like night vision equipment. It also needs the equipment that will allow it to patrol borders. The air fleet of Thailand is inadequate with a lack of modern patrol aircraft or drones. There is no advanced HQ for drone border patrol and marine safety like we see in Australia or South America countries. Thailand military is not equipped for the new types of threats to public safety. 1 hour ago, Pengo2001 said: The gulf of Thailand has an average depth of not more that 50 meters. Can a bigger sub even hide and operate in such a shallow envrionment? Thailand has one of the largest commercial fishing fleets in the world and Thai vessels operate all over the world. Thai vessels were identified as a major cause of illegal and over fishing in places like Indian ocean and off of Somalia. Because Somalia locals lost fishing income they went to piracy which was more profitable. EU had previously yellow listed Thailand which cost country seafood exports big. In easy language, the EU and Australia said to Thailand, stop your illegal activity or we will stop you. It was a requirement to lift the sanctions that Thailand surveil its foreign fishing activity. Also, Thailand is very much dependent on worldwide sea lanes for import and export. It relies on cheap oil to come from Gulf countries and Iran. The submarines will allow Thailand to police its international fishing fleet and to protect its international shipping activity. Very easy to attack Thailand and to say, bad, bad, bad, but I ask the negativity people how they propose Thailand police its fishing fleet to make sure boats comply and how it expects Thailand to protect its shipping activity? 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mr Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 i believe him....again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) every nation got a defense and a defense budget, get over it, thailand does not stand out in military spending, this is just the repetitive thai bashing that define TVF Edited February 17, 2021 by scammed 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, scammed said: every nation got a defense and a defense budget, get over it, thailand does not stand out in military spending That's a fair enough comment. I think Thailand's defense budget is about 1.5% of the GDP, putting it nowhere near the big spenders. And yes, many of the items make sense - night vision gear, drones, helicopters, etc. More in line with Thailand's actual defense needs and issues. The submarines, however, are both a huge investment, and quite obviously not necessary, or at best, low priority. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailboat32223 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, scammed said: every nation got a defense and a defense budget, get over it, thailand does not stand out in military spending, this is just the repetitive thai bashing that define TVF National defense is a proper expenditure but buying Chinese machines is foolish. Buy 2 quantity submarines instead. Do you have ships that can rescue a Chinese submarine broke down on the bottom of the sea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Patong2021 said: Very easy to attack Thailand and to say, bad, bad, bad, but I ask the negativity people how they propose Thailand police its fishing fleet to make sure boats comply and how it expects Thailand to protect its shipping activity? Protect its fishing fleet with submarines ? Like going mouse hunting with an elephant gun. Edited February 18, 2021 by metisdead Please do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes or wording. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: The submarines will allow Thailand to police its international fishing fleet and to protect its international shipping activity. This has got to be post of the year stuff, no? (in the "So far out there, it has a whole 'nother zip code" category)? I mean the use of "Thailand" and "police" in the same sentence? Does anyone believe that a Thai submarine is going to suddenly surface 12 miles offshore Somalia and tell Somchai or whoever's driving Chong Samaesan #351 that his nets are illegal? When foreign fishing boats intrude into Indonesian waters, their Navy seizes them, arrests the crew and transfers them to a Navy vessel before sinking the fishing boat... great surface gunnery practice and no submarines needed. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sailboat32223 said: National defense is a proper expenditure but buying Chinese machines is foolish. Buy 2 quantity submarines instead. Do you have ships that can rescue a Chinese submarine broke down on the bottom of the sea? The Russians didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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