Thai airways - what do you think will happen - refunds/credit advice

[ExpatOilWorker 5341]

On 2/22/2021 at 7:55 AM, mtls2005 said:

 

3 March. This is their third and last extension allowed, not that that really prevents another extension if I had to guess.

 

And who knows what's in the plan? Long-haul, discount? Short-haul (Asia/China), Y/J? Long-haul, full service? What do creditors get? Satang? Stock?

 

Really need to understand the OPs' itinerary. The flights may never return to the schedule, knowing the cities one could make a reasonable assessment.

 

For most, maybe best to just write off the loss. But if you can travel, try to re-build a ticket, without laying out too much more cash.

 

ROP Miles are probably worthless. Maybe use them to buy some old aircraft or fried dough?

 

 

 

 

 

 

March 3rd came and went, did anything change?

[mtls2005 17271]

23 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

March 3rd came and went, did anything change?

 

 

What were you hoping for?

 

The plan was accepted by the Court.

 

Creditors meet on 12 May 2021 to "approve" the plan.

 

Significant aspects: three year debt moratorium, no debt forgiveness. So if you're holding any debt, be patient.

 

 

 

 

[ExpatOilWorker 5341]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

What were you hoping for?

 

The plan was accepted by the Court.

 

Creditors meet on 12 May 2021 to "approve" the plan.

 

Significant aspects: three year debt moratorium, no debt forgiveness. So if you're holding any debt, be patient.

 

 

 

 

3 years of hope. Thai is the gift that keep giving.

Will be interesting to see if some refund start trickling our way later this year. 

[mtls2005 17271]

9 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Will be interesting to see if some refund start trickling our way later this year. 

 

Well, I guess anything is possible, maybe more will be known after 12 May. But if something is trickling on you it's probably not rain.

 

I'd push for a voucher or re-booking proactively.

 

 

[seajae 16571]

I had tickets for internal travel with Thai Smile as well as Air Asia, both refused to refund and would only give a credit but neither has ever added the credit to my account, thai smile expires in a couple of months(only 12 months to use if I actually got it) and air asia expires next year. Have tried several times to get them to credit it back to me but so far nothing, my international travel with Singapore airlines was refunded last year and that was a hell of a lot more money, big difference in customer service, the thai airlines dont like to give back your money at all plus make it as hard as possible to even try to get anything out of them

[mtls2005 17271]

4 hours ago, seajae said:

I had tickets for internal travel with Thai Smile as well as Air Asia

 

Did they cancel the flights? Or did you.

 

No clue what Thai Smile and AirAsia have for COVID voucher/re-booking options?

 

I think any sort of refund is not going to happen.

 

Now it's up to you to figure out if you can use the tickets.

 

Can you view either PNR on-line?

 

 

[seajae 16571]

On 3/8/2021 at 3:08 PM, mtls2005 said:

 

Did they cancel the flights? Or did you.

 

No clue what Thai Smile and AirAsia have for COVID voucher/re-booking options?

 

I think any sort of refund is not going to happen.

 

Now it's up to you to figure out if you can use the tickets.

 

Can you view either PNR on-line?

 

 

they cancelled the flights, I have emailed/contacted both airlines, air asia said they had fixed it and given me a  credit but they havent and smile simply refused to reply or accept the forms/emails I sent them, as requested, its a total sham from both rather than actually give  credit/refund

 

[gunderhill 6859]

They  will become the world's  greatest ever airline, well at  least in their  eyes  anyway.

[upu2 730]

On 2/20/2021 at 2:27 PM, internationalism said:

in bankruptcy they have up to 12 months to return.

if you payed with card you can with your bank earlier.

they well might close down

Yes the time to return is right but there is a pecking order of who gets paid and when. Unfortunately customers are the last in line to share whatever is left over from clearing the major debts.

I wouldnt hold out much hope for getting anything back although I hope all you guys get a full refund.

[ExpatOilWorker 5341]

Anyone else got tye below message from THAI?

The English version is saying our voucher has been canceled. Bit odd, unless of course a refund is on its way!

 

With THAI optional offering Travel Voucher for your consideration in using as payment for your next THAI Services
while waiting for the Rehabilitation plan refund pay back as your original requirement.

Together with this email, please accept your official notification on Travel Voucher cancellation
to comply with your objection on receiving THAI Travel Voucher option.

We are looking forward to be at your service on THAI.

Sincerely yours,

Thai Airways International Public Company Limited

ตามที่บริษัทฯนำเสนอ Travel Voucher เพื่อเป็นทางเลือกในการเรียกใช้บริการของการบินไทยระหว่างรอการดำเนินการตามแผนฟื้นฟู
เพื่อคืนเงินค่าบัตรโดยสารให้กับท่านตามการร้องขอนั้น

จากการปฏิเสธไม่ขอรับ Travel Voucher ฉบับดังกล่าว การบินไทยใคร่ขอนำเรียนท่านผู้โดยสารถึงการดำเนินการยกเลิก
Travel Voucher ฉบับดังกล่าวตามที่ท่านปฏิเสธการนำเสนอเรียบร้อยแล้ว

การบินไทยหวังเป็นอย่างยิ่งว่าจะมีโอกาสได้รับใช้ท่านผู้โดยสารในการเดินทางคราวต่อไป

[edwinchester 8643]

As a follow-up our travel agent has issued a 'promise' to pay our refund back in 4 months time. It appears they have had the money since early last year when our flights were cancelled.

A complaint to the Thai Consumer Protection Board got the response that they have had many complaints about this particular company, it was illegal to withhold the money last year and that there was an ongoing investigation.

Ho hum.

[mtls2005 17271]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

As a follow-up our travel agent has issued a 'promise' to pay our refund back in 4 months time. It appears they have had the money since early last year when our flights were cancelled.

 

Wasn't this some long-time friend of your wife's who you've had a air ticket relationship with for years?

 

Quote: 

 

Been using the friends small agency for well over a decade now with no problems and very good deals. The money made it to Thai, confirmed with Thai and tickets issued but then cancelled.

 

 

Sounds like they cancelled the ticket way back, kept the refund, and then, maybe told you something else?

 

On 4/2/2021 at 4:04 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

Anyone else got tye below message from THAI?

 

Seen some recent reports on Flyertalk (TG subforum) that people are receiving refunds, for the same amount as the voucher they are holding.

 

My best guess is that you too will receive a refund, unless you object.

 

 

Very, very good news.

 

Maybe this was part of the bankruptcy agreement?

[edwinchester 8643]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Wasn't this some long-time friend of your wife's who you've had a air ticket relationship with for years?

 

Quote: 

 

Been using the friends small agency for well over a decade now with no problems and very good deals. The money made it to Thai, confirmed with Thai and tickets issued but then cancelled.

 

 

Sounds like they cancelled the ticket way back, kept the refund, and then, maybe told you something else?

 

 

Seen some recent reports on Flyertalk (TG subforum) that people are receiving refunds, for the same amount as the voucher they are holding.

 

My best guess is that you too will receive a refund, unless you object.

 

 

Very, very good news.

 

Maybe this was part of the bankruptcy agreement?

Nearly...wifeys friend is the sub-agent we ordered the ticket through. Main travel agent issued the ticket and are the ones withholding the money and supposedly the subject of investigation.

Wifeys friend is owed a very large amount of commission by the main agent that has also been withheld for over a year. She has also been promised this later in the year but only a reduced percentage of what she is owed.