mikosan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Dart12 said: turning your phone off doesn't stop gps. Neither does not having cell data plan. Yes it does. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 hours ago, davidstipek said: Face Mongering the majority of Thai here... Wow! (Massive Loss of Face! )When income is at a level to barely feed family... A Smart Phone is not on or ever will be on the Eat List! If you can barely feed your family, I'm thinking flight tickets to Thailand would be out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 14 hours ago, fdsa said: school does not teach you that GPS runs on phone's modem and that modems are always powered on (even when you click "flight mode" in phone menu) and run a completely different operating system than the phone, and modems can download and run applications without notifying you, and you have absolutely no control over that behavior. But not when your bloody phone is turned off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 hours ago, tifino said: so ol' Joe Blo thinks ahead, and Installs the App prior to leaving ones home country... Gets to his airport with only minutes to spare, and heads into the airport security gates to board. Now some airports around the world force you turn on ALL your electronic devices prior to boarding; to confirm the device is truely what it is, and not a bomb in a plastic shell. - so poor ol' Joe Blo is really down on his luck, as the silly phone won't fire up because he had just now flattened his battery trying to get the App Installed and working - and no time left to Charge it up enough to fire it up... Security confiscates the mobile aka suspected bomb device; and he is boogered now, for when he lands in Los... he has no phone to show... I've been to airports around the world - never needed to turn on phones or laptop. Can you tell me the airports that require this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya46 Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, whaleboneman said: I've been to airports around the world - never needed to turn on phones or laptop. Can you tell me the airports that require this? I had to switch on my laptop several times at Munich airport, at the security/scanning gate. They also sometime wipe the laptop with a special tissu able to detect some dangerous products. So yes, what Tifino said is true, even if not (yet) frequent. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 hours ago, natway09 said: That article certainly bought out the whingers The cost of a smart phone today is less than 1,000 Bht. // Uh? Could you tell us which smart phone you can get at that very low price ? I would think on 3000 B as a very low minimum price... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Read the reviews of the Android version of this app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dga.thailandplus.android Illuminating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 10 hours ago, youngster30uk said: You really dont understand, The gpd on your phone produces data on location which is then stored Triangulation would also produce the exact same location data which would then be stored, there is NO difference to the data, just the way it is produced I don't understand - what's the "gpd" on my phone exactly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Asking for a friend said: Dear Thailand, I have the Thai wife, I have the recipes, I have the memories. I shall not be returning. Enjoy your little Orwellian cargo cult. How on earth did you get the recipes out of the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freestyle Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 Every day the requirements and barriers for tourists are changing. If you want to keep your sanity, then just stay away from that circus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoYai Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 And there's me thinking they were trying to find ways to get tourists back - great idea, it will go down really well.......not. But I must be missing something, somebody please explain please - you've paid for your ASQ, paid for Covid 19 insurance, been totally ripped off on the flight price (if you flew with Thai Airways) and finally, you've spent 15 days in quarantine and provided 3 negative PCR tests since you left home. So you don't have Covid 19, you haven't imported it into Thailand..................why do you need to be tracked? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitkof Island Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: There are very very few people in Thailand so poor they don’t own a smart phone. Give for a few street beggars etc the vast majority of Thai’s own a smart phone - I challenge anyone to ask 10 random people waking down the street and not find 10 people with a smart phone in their pocket or handbag. I don,t have a Dumb phone nor ever wish to have one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitkof Island Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, KhaoYai said: And there's me thinking they were trying to find ways to get tourists back - great idea, it will go down really well.......not. But I must be missing something, somebody please explain please - you've paid for your ASQ, paid for Covid 19 insurance, been totally ripped off on the flight price (if you flew with Thai Airways) and finally, you've spent 15 days in quarantine and provided 3 negative PCR tests since you left home. So you don't have Covid 19, you haven't imported it into Thailand..................why do you need to be tracked? I hunch is yet another racket for money just like the over priced expensive hotels for quarantine. Just another scam to add to the <deleted> pile. It will get to a point no one will wish to return or return home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinBKK Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 hours ago, ikke1959 said: The best way to stay COVID free here in Thailand as a tourist is stay away.. all the requirements made to visit a country for holiday will surely be an invitation to come.. Here is something else people might be thinking. Why would anyone want to visit a country where the local population (and migrant workers) aren't vaccinated? Even if you were wearing a condom, would you knowingly have sex with someone that has AIDS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have a phone that I only use for work, its locked to the network and won't work on a Thai SIM but it does work on Wifi in Thailand - I have no plans to get it unlocked, I don't need to. I'll download their application to that phone, leave it in my house when I arrive and just take my personal phone with me when I go out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinBKK Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Dart12 said: turning your phone off doesn't stop gps. Neither does not having cell data plan. True. You have to remove the battery otherwise the phone will continue to ping cell phone towers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, BobinBKK said: True. You have to remove the battery otherwise the phone will continue to ping cell phone towers. I would like to see a link verifying this statement! Every google search I have done says something like this:- Quote Can a cell phone be pinged if the power is off? No. This is not Hollywood. It can’t be located when off. It can’t be remotely turned on. HOWEVER. Generally, the phone will send a power-down final handshake to the network (so the network knows to send calls to voicemail immediately rather then trying to locate the phone to route the call) and gps data will be attatched to that, so in an emergency, in theory, the network carrier will know where the phone was when it was powered off. Of course, for example, if you turn your phone off in Dallas, and drive to Denver with it off, knowing where it was really doesn’t help the situation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Just to be very clear...GPS satellites do not track anything. They are one-way radios. Your phone does not communicate to a GPS satellite. Your phone uses the GPS satellites to determine its /your location. Your location may then be shared via BT, WiFi, mobile data via another app. In Android, in addition to turning off Location services, one can spoof or mock the location. Enable Developer Options (click on Build Number five times). This does not void any phone SW license agreement. Install one of the many mock gps apps from the Play Store Select mock location app from Developer Options. If you turn off your phone, only it's most recent location history, up to the point of powering off, is available. Airplane mode will prevent the phone from reporting its location. Yes, the authorities can locate your phone, assuming it's on and has a SIM registered on a local network. But this process is balky, time-consuming subject to a wide array of errors. Within Android you can disable Location on an application by application basis. My sense is that the authorities here want to be able to see where you've been, not where you are right now, for purposes of contact tracing. I mean if they want to find you they can call you. You may have agreed to some legal responsibility as part of your entry into Thailand. The mandatory use of an application may be required. Just make sure you read and understand anything you agree to. I think some of these GPS tracking sub-apps do consume quite a bit of battery power. The Thai apps - there are at least two (MorChana and Thailand Plus) - have suffered from this shortfall, that and using too much data. Maybe they are using too short a reporting window? Edited February 22, 2021 by mtls2005 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobinBKK Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, bdenner said: I would like to see a link verifying this statement! Every google search I have done says something like this:- Things that aren't meant for the knowledge the general public won't appear on a Google search. I know what I know because I worked in telecom IT for 12 years. We often received requests from law enforcement to track cell phones and it doesn't matter if the phone was turned off. Text messages can also be monitored by telecom companies with a software application called "Streams Analytical Processing" which was first developed for use by the NSA. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BobinBKK said: Here is something else people might be thinking. Why would anyone want to visit a country where the local population (and migrant workers) aren't vaccinated? Even if you were wearing a condom, would you knowingly have sex with someone that has AIDS? yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffman Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The online 90 day reporitng website is down and when I try to log into the app, it locks up. I'm not too worried about any tracking app. The people involved in Governmrnt related IT are clearly utter spastics. Looks like a trip to immigration is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 22 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: will it <deleted> it will create fear and distrust this government really needs to brush up on european history 'this government really needs to brush up on european history". They need to get back to their barracks and parade grounds and let a proper government elected by the people and with a decent education into office. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BobinBKK said: Here is something else people might be thinking. Why would anyone want to visit a country where the local population (and migrant workers) aren't vaccinated? Even if you were wearing a condom, would you knowingly have sex with someone that has AIDS? By the time high season arrives most 1st world tourists would have been vaccinated. Those that are not can spend high season holidays at home if they wish However Thailand does NOT CARE about LOW western tourist numbers they are after CHINA. Why are people on TV struggling with this? Big bwana no longer calls the shots because the natives no longer worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 hours ago, BritManToo said: As some of my pals told me, you don't need a smartphone. Just stand in front of the QR code photo, hold your phone out to it for a moment, then walk past. Nobody ever checks your phone is smart, turned on, or has the app, only the motions are required. Not that I would ever do that! I would. Anything to go against these stupid soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 12 hours ago, SwampyThai said: I would like to see them trying to get it to work on my iPhone 4 ???????? That was the last phone i had.I smashed it up when it stopped working ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InevitableCost Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Sure I'll install it on a cheap phone which I will then throw away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, whaleboneman said: How on earth did you get the recipes out of the country? Shoved em where the sun don't shine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimbo2014 Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 Pictured... average results for tracking app. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Tom Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Sure! Big Brother will ONLY use the app to HELP you???? B/s B/S B/s B/S 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Tom Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Also kind of begs the question....how badly do you really want to return to the land of no privacy? SURE, you can trust the General who held a coup to dispose a duly elected government and informed everyone that there would be election in 6 months and that he had no desire to hold public office ....and I have a bridge that I want to sell you in NYC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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