Aomelia 72 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 17 hours ago, canthai55 said: So ... the bank gives you credit to buy a new car, and you get drunk and smash it up, killing yourself. And the banks should eat the loss ? 555 - nowhere in the world is it any different, save some dictatorial cesspit masquerading as a country. I drive the truck , she doesn’t have license , we have 1st class insurance Link to post Share on other sites
Aomelia 72 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 17 hours ago, canthai55 said: So ... the bank gives you credit to buy a new car, and you get drunk and smash it up, killing yourself. And the banks should eat the loss ? 555 - nowhere in the world is it any different, save some dictatorial cesspit masquerading as a country. This is Life Insurance not Vehicle Insurance 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Aomelia 72 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 hours ago, scoupeo said: why do you want to buy something that you cannot fully pay ? why do people have to live on debt ? don't they feel ridiculous sometimes ? even the old ones ? It’s 1% interest why not use banks money 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BritManToo 45,561 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 13 hours ago, scoupeo said: why do you want to buy something that you cannot fully pay ? why do people have to live on debt ? don't they feel ridiculous sometimes ? even the old ones ? At 65 maybe he doesn't want to save up for the next 5-10 years ........ because he might not be here that long. My house mortgage won't be paid off until I'm 85 ........... I didn't want to wait 27 years before moving in either. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
foreverlomsak 934 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 14 hours ago, scoupeo said: why do you want to buy something that you cannot fully pay ? why do people have to live on debt ? don't they feel ridiculous sometimes ? even the old ones ? I could have paid mine outright with no problems, but I took just over half on finance because the interest on the finance was 2.5% PA simple and my savings were 6% PA compound, result the cost of the interest on the finance was less than I would get on the savings. So no contest. Apart from that it's often the only way some can get things like cars, we don't all have mega bucks sitting available in bank accounts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
canthai55 5,043 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Aomelia said: This is Life Insurance not Vehicle Insurance And you are the beneficiary ... The banks want something where THEY are the beneficiary - if you die of a heart attack, smash the truck, yada yada yada ... Not hard to figure out Link to post Share on other sites
jomtienisgood 491 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/22/2021 at 8:06 AM, crowned said: I'm in the market for a new SUV (Fortuner or Pajero), here on Retirement visa. Plenty of funds for 30 or 40 % downpayment, and can easily manage the repayments, but can't get finance approval. Just wondering if those with more wisdom than me can suggest a way to get finance approved. Dealership finance brokers...no luck, and Bangkok Bank personal loan guideline say max age 65. Thanks for any ideas If one is not even capable of subscribing a health insurance once over 65, how can you expect to get a loan?????? Link to post Share on other sites
Pilotman 19,597 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 5 hours ago, Aomelia said: It’s 1% interest why not use banks money 1%, I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites
Pilotman 19,597 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, foreverlomsak said: I could have paid mine outright with no problems, but I took just over half on finance because the interest on the finance was 2.5% PA simple and my savings were 6% PA compound, result the cost of the interest on the finance was less than I would get on the savings. So no contest. Apart from that it's often the only way some can get things like cars, we don't all have mega bucks sitting available in bank accounts. That doesn't make any sense? Link to post Share on other sites
foreverlomsak 934 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Pilotman said: That doesn't make any sense? Finance was 400,000 loan @ 2.5% PA simple interest = 10,000 PA times 5 years total interest added 50,000 Savings year 1 was 400,000 @ 6% PA compound interest i.e. add to balance = 24,000 year 2 was 424,000 @ 6% PA = 25,440 add to balance and so on At the end of year 2 almost had back all the interest I was going to pay on the finance over 5 years Link to post Share on other sites
Pilotman 19,597 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, foreverlomsak said: Finance was 400,000 loan @ 2.5% PA simple interest = 10,000 PA times 5 years total interest added 50,000 Savings year 1 was 400,000 @ 6% PA compound interest i.e. add to balance = 24,000 year 2 was 424,000 @ 6% PA = 25,440 add to balance and so on At the end of year 2 almost had back all the interest I was going to pay on the finance over 5 years No, still don't get it. You are not taking into account the 'whole life cost' of that vehicle, a common error . If you had paid cash and banked the payments you would have made in a high interest account over 5 years. not withstanding inflation, which you appear to be ignoring, you would (a) have owned outright a fast depreciating asset, that you could then sell early, say year 3, to offset some of that depreciation. (be) bought a 2 year old car and avoided the large deprecation hit on leaving the showroom and still be in a better cash position in terms of the whole life cost of the vehicle, or be leased the car. Paying finance for a depreciating asset like a vehicle hardly ever makes sense, here or anywhere else, unless its a lack of ready cash issue. In Thailand, this is also true of most property purchases, due to the , one could say, unique structure and properties of the market over here. Edited February 23 by Pilotman Link to post Share on other sites
foreverlomsak 934 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 19 minutes ago, Pilotman said: No, still don't get it. You are not taking into account the 'whole life cost' of that vehicle, a common error . If you had paid cash and banked the payments you would have made in a high interest account over 5 years. not withstanding inflation, which you appear to be ignoring, you would (a) have owned outright a fast depreciating asset, that you could then sell early, say year 3, to offset some of that depreciation. (be) bought a 2 year old car and avoided the large deprecation hit on leaving the showroom and still be in a better cash position in terms of the whole life cost of the vehicle, or be leased the car. Paying finance for a depreciating asset like a vehicle hardly ever makes sense, here or anywhere else, unless its a lack of ready cash issue. In Thailand, this is also true of most property purchases, due to the , one could say, unique structure and properties of the market over here. The vehicle depreciates at the same rate irrespective of whether you bought it outright or on finance. Vehicles after a few years old tend not to change in second hand values irrespective of age, when we arrived here, many moons ago, a second hand 2 year old pickup was basically the same price as a 5 year old, and I don't think it has changed too much based on what people tell me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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