John Drake Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, hioctane said: Joining Covax means middle income countries (like Thailand) foot the bill for the whole program and they have no choice on which vaccine they get. They could potentially get a better deal for the vaccine they want if they negotiate directly. Malaysia is middle income, and it is part of COVAX. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: in desperation will rely on an unproven vaccine from China. I don't think there was any desperation involved. The Sinovac is what they wanted from the beginning. Nothing else was going to get into the country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Thanks but no thanks to the Chinese vaccine. They have done enough already. In Pfizer and Modena we trust (just about). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cdemundo Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, 10baht said: The whole point people are missing is transmission of the virus is not prevented by those vaccinated. Thus, quarantine will continue and no tourists until Thailand achieves herd immunity. I think you are overstating the case. A rigorous examination of whether vaccination limits transmission has not been done. It has been said to be unknown if vaccination limits transmission. Some promising results about reduced viral load in nasopharyngeal region after vaccination has been reported. Wait and see, it might prove to be good news. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 hours ago, misterjames said: I wonder who will profit from this Chinese deal? notice they didn't want to join covax and rather this sinovax over astrazenica maybe because nobody is allowed to profit from it? no brown envelopes in it for them? Chinese Arms+ Chinese vaccine...... You work it out...... Even chuck you in a Chicken Chow mein as well..... How's that for a deal ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangsaenguy Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Remember that the general stopped hospitals from buying any. None will be available after the initial Chinese <deleted> until the Crown Property stuff is available. As usual, all about money 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Dome Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Even Cambodia has said 'no' to Sinovac. Get a clue, Thai officials. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Cambodia-shuns-China-s-Sinovac-vaccine-in-favor-of-COVAX-shots 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mr Dome said: Even Cambodia has said 'no' to Sinovac. Get a clue, Thai officials. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Cambodia-shuns-China-s-Sinovac-vaccine-in-favor-of-COVAX-shots that article is from december, so quite old, as situation changes constantly. And it's behind a paywall. Cambodia joined covax program a long ago. They will have cheap vax, but they can't chose which one and when it will come. Sinovac is not the cheap one. Thai bought it for 650b per vial, so $22. They have only $1mln saved, to enough for only 50k vials - which is nothing for 18mln population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chongalulu Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, khwaibah said: Prayut to get first Sinovac shot despite claiming it is unsuitable for those above 60 National Feb 22. 2021 https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402914?fbclid=IwAR2u-_vdCYYdR9UVFus_CAjYA2tGbOdPQzmwK2paMMv8Z3SvoY7yWgE5-Ao They were going to use Prawit,but couldn’t find a space between the watches ???? to insert the ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Geoffggi said: How do we know it's the Sinovac vaccine he will be getting ?? /...............LOL There’ll be 3 upturned cups on the table....you know the rest ! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiang Mai Bill Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 18 hours ago, cyril sneer said: Is this the vaccine that’s just 50% effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr Dome said: Even Cambodia has said 'no' to Sinovac. Get a clue, Thai officials. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Cambodia-shuns-China-s-Sinovac-vaccine-in-favor-of-COVAX-shots You know what's going to happen, the proles will get the Chinese version and the Hi-so Gov mob will get the western gear....... Sub deal secured ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suua Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Has the Chinese chite even been certified as safe anywhere? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 hours ago, rabas said: It used to be. There is a continuing stream of new variants like UK, South Africa, and Brazil's P.1 that all vaccines must deal with. The US just reported the first 'recombinant' event between the UK and a new California strain. This opens the door to the next stage, virus-vaccine wars! Although ultimately man will win, Sinovac will likely again come up short. Remember, Sinovac's vaccine is what China is selling overseas. Recall China's belated warnings about the virus as it bought up up the world's masks. The CCP frequently demonstrates its lack of interest in the world's well being. Do you want their vaccine? Best post I've read in a very long time. Your last 2 sentences sum the situation nicely and what people need to keep top of mind when considering various claims, especially from China, as to the efficacy and safety of their vaccines - from all China manufactures, not just Sinovac. China, after all, is notorious for vaccine scandals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jollyhangmon Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, SupermarineS6B said: You know what's going to happen, the proles will get the Chinese version and the Hi-so Gov mob will get the western gear....... Sub deal secured ! ... indeed, weedmon already clarifies in todays bkk post that tu-uncle for instance will start off with AZs brew, he's too old for the chinese stuff you know ... should cost him some brownie points with xi-uncle though, 555 ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 What exactly is the criteria for "emergency use only"? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 16 hours ago, rabas said: It used to be. There is a continuing stream of new variants like UK, South Africa, and Brazil's P.1 that all vaccines must deal with. The US just reported the first 'recombinant' event between the UK and a new California strain. This opens the door to the next stage, virus-vaccine wars! Although ultimately man will win, Sinovac will likely again come up short. Remember, Sinovac's vaccine is what China is selling overseas. Recall China's belated warnings about the virus as it bought up up the world's masks. The CCP frequently demonstrates its lack of interest in the world's well being. Do you want their vaccine? Chinese nationals aren't taking Sinovac? That's worrying. So it sounds like Sinovac is sold to countries who were too slow to get a better vaccine, and desperate enough to pay more than it's worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 22 hours ago, DLock said: That 50,000...not coming. It was all a PR stunt that got caught up in the European short deliveries. The other AZ ordered from the EU? Not coming, until Siam Bioscience are able to produce the vaccine in Thailand. Until then, it's Sinovac. Should have joined COVAX. I notice in the publication that cannot be mentioned here that the PM will get a jab of the AZ vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I wonder how can you tell if it is real or fake? Oh right, the Chinese do not make fake anything. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfHuy Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Soon in every shopping mall. You can already see special parking lots for the "VIP cars" Soon, different shopping mall entrances: AstraZena entrance Sinovac entrance Farang entrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dome Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 2:09 PM, internationalism said: that article is from december, so quite old, as situation changes constantly. And it's behind a paywall. Cambodia joined covax program a long ago. They will have cheap vax, but they can't chose which one and when it will come. Sinovac is not the cheap one. Thai bought it for 650b per vial, so $22. They have only $1mln saved, to enough for only 50k vials - which is nothing for 18mln population. Sorry, the article isn't behind a paywall for me but I am in Cambodia. So, I dug a little bit deeper and this interesting development had slipped my attention: Cambodia's Ministry of Health has reversed Hun Sen's words and approved Sinovac this month. https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50813711/more-covid-19-vaccines-approved-by-cambodias-health-ministry/ "The announcement was made by Mam Bunheng, Minister of Health, in two separate statement released by the Health Ministry this morning. In the statements, Bunheng said that the government has given approval to these two vaccines because both of them have been used in vaccination programmes in the countries that produce them as well as several other countries." Well, I sure don't want Sinovac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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