heybruce Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Neeranam said: IMHO, one could say that ALL developers/building companies in NYC have to deal with organized crime organizations like the mob. If true, none of them should ever hold public office. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, heybruce said: If true, none of them should ever hold public office. but they only get elected to public office because they are part of the organized crime, it's like the chicken and the egg, which one came first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Berkshire said: These brainwashed followers of his will believe anything Trump says. Even after Trump is unceremoniously shipped off to prison, he will claim miscarriage of justice and his minions will send him money. Maybe in time they'll figure out that they were conned, but Trump will siphon every last dime from his cult followers. You might say they deserve each other. This must be the worst day for Trump ‘s supporters. Biden over achieving the vaccination 100 days target, Merrick Garland vowed to prosecute the white supremacists and go after their leaders and the creme de la creme Supreme Court ordered the release of tax returns. Republicans are leaving the party in droves and will leave behind the cultist Q-followers of Trump. He may win that portion of the battle but he will lose the war. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mavideol said: but they only get elected to public office because they are part of the organized crime, it's like the chicken and the egg, which one came first Can you give examples? Can you link any Presidents within the last 50 years, other than Trump, for which there were credible suspicions of links to organized crime? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Neeranam said: IMHO, one could say that ALL developers/building companies in NYC have to deal with organized crime organizations like the mob. No question that, in those times, developers in NYC had to deal with "The Concrete Club" , as per Michael Franzese on YouTube However, how many of those developers actually got into bed with the Russian Mob and allowed them to launder money through their business's ? And before you ask for proof as a way of obfuscation, there are innumerable reputable sources and references of this online. Or you could read the bestseller, "The Making of Donald Trump" by David Cay Johnston. <-- very smart guy. Edited February 23, 2021 by tilaceer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, tilaceer said: No question that, in those times, developers in NYC had to deal with "The Concrete Club" However, how many of those developers actually got into bed with the Russian Mob and allowed them to launder money through their business's ? And before you ask for proof as a way of obfuscation, there are innumerable reputable sources and references of this online. Or you could read the bestseller, "The Making of Donald Trump" by David Cay Johnston. <-- very smart guy. Indeed, some anti-Trumpers here are suggesting he did something wrong. A question to them, which developers DIDN't deal with organized crime. It's a witch hunt pure and simple. Edited February 23, 2021 by Neeranam 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, some anti-Trumpers here are suggesting he did something wrong. He did...many things....now chickens coming home to roost. Please read beyond the first sentence. Edited February 23, 2021 by tilaceer 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, tilaceer said: He did...many things....now chickens coming home to roost. Well lets hope if he did, he gets a fair hearing, which is unlike all the media bias he has experienced in recent years. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Neeranam said: Well lets hope if he did, he gets a fair hearing, which is unlike all the media bias he has experienced in recent years. Agree, the bias from Fox et al has been intolerable. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, tilaceer said: Agree, the bias from Fox et al has been intolerable. lol, are you seriously saying that the media in general was not biased against Trump? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: This must be the worst day for Trump ‘s supporters. Biden over achieving the vaccination 100 days target, Merrick Garland vowed to prosecute the white supremacists and go after their leaders and the creme de la creme Supreme Court ordered the release of tax returns. Republicans are leaving the party in droves and will leave behind the cultist Q-followers of Trump. He may win that portion of the battle but he will lose the war. Dream on. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, some anti-Trumpers here are suggesting he did something wrong. A question to them, which developers DIDN't deal with organized crime. It's a witch hunt pure and simple. Prosecute those developers too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Vance is not very smart, and is a lifelong Democrat like his Dad. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I could be very wrong, but I suspect much ado about nothing. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Prosecute those developers too. There are not many brave enough to go after 'the mob' Juliano is one of the few, when he was the Attorney General. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mavideol said: x 2 ???? x3 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Vance is not very smart, and is a lifelong Democrat like his Dad. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I could be very wrong, but I suspect much ado about nothing. Yeah, not so smart...that's why he has brought Mark Pomerantz on board...lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Neeranam said: There are not many brave enough to go after 'the mob' Juliano is one of the few, when he was the Attorney General. Well it’s all part of your attempt at a distraction anyway. What we do know is a man with the right experience has been brought in to the prosecution team: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/539544-manhattan-district-attorney-adds-prominent-prosecutor-in-trump-probe Since your defense of Trump is now not an instance of innocence, but rather ‘Others were doing likewise’ you’ll understand this latest appointment is a very real threat to Trump’s liberty. Edited February 23, 2021 by Chomper Higgot 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Credo said: The investigation needs to be based on some credible reason. They cannot just ask for the tax records and then go on a fishing expedition to see 'what they can find.' Unless the IRS is behind it, and it doesn't appear that they are, then they must have a credible reason based on reasonable suspicion. Quite correct and those reasons would have been presented to a citizen constituted Grand Jury. If they returned an indictment, they stated they believe there is enough evidence to pursue the charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, vandeventer said: That's what the the IRS is there for! Do some research. It's generally not up to the IRS. .Sadly, it's up to a political appointee. The treasury secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wwest5829 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, vandeventer said: You Dems. are trying everything to stop him from running in 2024.What next are you going to hit him over the head with the kitchen sink? Na, I could care less if he ran in 2024. I just want him to answer for the criminal that he has always been now. 2024 will not be an issue. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, some anti-Trumpers here are suggesting he did something wrong. A question to them, which developers DIDN't deal with organized crime. It's a witch hunt pure and simple. You proved our point. Trump was involved with organized crime. Then again, unless you only read Fox, you would have known this. It's been widely reported. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Caldera said: Excellent news, nobody is above the law and the prosecutor evidently needs access to the traitor ex president's tax records to see if there are any irregularities that point to criminal wrongdoing. As far as I'm concerned, he can scream "witch hunt" all the way to prison, which is where his incredible journey is set to end. What a life, what a story! Ah, the great American system ... a book deal in the making ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Vance is not very smart, and is a lifelong Democrat like his Dad. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I could be very wrong, but I suspect much ado about nothing. Why bring politics into it? Just to bash democrats? Strange. But typical of Trump's supporters. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: You proved our point. Trump was involved with organized crime. Then again, unless you only read Fox, you would have known this. It's been widely reported. Yes, of course he was. I think you miss my point, there is an unfair witch hunt for Trump, and personally I hate the guy for what he did with his golf course in Aberdeen, my home town. Look at the Kennedy family, it's well document how they got their cash, political power! Were they targeted like Trump? Btw, I never even knew Fox had a newspaper. I wouldn't watch that rubbish channel ever. Actually, I never watch any US channels as they are all very biased. Fox is one of the better ones, which doesn't say much for the others! Edited February 23, 2021 by Neeranam 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: lol, are you seriously saying that the media in general was not biased against Trump? Some media outlets were biased against Trump, as some were against Obama, (and other Presidents). Trump exacerbated the relationship because he cannot handle criticism, scrutiny or being made the butt of jokes, (it comes with the territory). Obama, in the majority of cases, handled these situations with dignity and statesmanship, (Trump not possessing either quality..along with a lot more). Trump, being the vengeful narcissist that he is, vilified the press that he did not see as supporting him, portraying them as enemies to the American people, which with hindsight, we know is a dangerous thing for a President to do when he has a cultist following. I think you would have to agree, at the opposite end of the scale there are those who are/were extreme in their support of Trump, and by this extreme support fanned the flames, and are now looking at paying the cost. How is Lou Dobbs BTW ? Edited February 23, 2021 by onthedarkside "questionable source" social media video removed 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Yes, of course he was. I think you miss my point, there is an unfair witch hunt for Trump, and personally I hate the guy for what he did with his golf course in Aberdeen, my home town. Look at the Kennedy family, it's well document how they got their cash, political power! Were they targeted like Trump? Btw, I never even knew Fox had a newspaper. I wouldn't watch that rubbish channel ever. The investigation is happening because of testimony by Trump's personal attorney. No witch hunt. His testimony is damning! You can read Fox on the internet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, tilaceer said: I think you would have to agree, at the opposite end of the scale there are those who are/were extreme in their support of Trump, and by this extreme support fanned the flames, and are now looking at paying the cost. How is Lou Dobbs BTW ? To be fair, there was a lot of fake news by CNN etc. Personally, I think there were more extremists against Trump than for him. I have a few friends on the US who befriended their Facebook friends just because of who they supported, very sad behavior against the rule of Democracy. No idea who Lou Dobbs is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Neeranam said: To be fair, there was a lot of fake news by CNN etc. Personally, I think there were more extremists against Trump than for him. I have a few friends on the US who befriended their Facebook friends just because of who they supported, very sad behavior against the rule of Democracy. No idea who Lou Dobbs is. CNN is definitely against Trump. Just like a majority of Americans. But NO fake news. Don't post misinformation. Unlike Fox, whichis a regular broadcaster of fake news. As proven by the billion dollar lawsuit and firing of Lou Dobbs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tilaceer Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Neeranam said: To be fair, there was a lot of fake news by CNN etc. Personally, I think there were more extremists against Trump than for him. I have a few friends on the US who befriended their Facebook friends just because of who they supported, very sad behavior against the rule of Democracy. No idea who Lou Dobbs is. Please give me an example of Fake News by CNN. BTW, If you claim to be an Aberdonian, how can you watch the documentary "You've Been Trumped" and support this creature? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxQHECN9vzA Edited February 23, 2021 by tilaceer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: IMHO, one could say that ALL developers/building companies in NYC have to deal with organized crime organizations like the mob. Maybe so. trump was refused a license to operate a casino in Sydney by Australian Federal Police due to mafia links. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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