Former PDRC protest leader Suthep and 25 others sentenced to prison terms

[zyphodb]

6 hours ago, colinneil said:

Suthep will never see the inside of a prison, easy to sentence him but actually jailing him, ha,ha,ha.

Totally agree with Colin, Suthep is far too influential to get jailed, a pity as he deserves the key thrown away for many things that he's done... 

Edited February 25, 2021 by zyphodb

[Phoenix Rising]

59 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

The military exists to protect a country and society from exterior forces. The police exists to protect a country and society from interior forces. 

If I were you I would start the post with the words "In theory.....".

[billd766]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

He will.... he's just waiting for the right tune  to come along.

There is a song called "Whistle a happy tune" so I Google it and I was going to post the link until I saw which film/stage production it came from.

 

A clue would be that the character was called Anna L.......s.

[Mavideol]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

The ministers are all in the cabinet of Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, who led a coup that overthrew Yingluck in 2014

so all in Prayut's government but "political immunity" none in jail.... funny how things work here

[Mavideol]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Prayuth stayed on as prime minister after the coup and retained the post after a 2019 election, which he insists was free and fair, despite opposition allegations of foul play.

sure free and fair,  after changing the constitution,  to his advantage,  it was a walk in the park....  I do have a feeling it will not be easy to remove him after the term ends   555

Edited February 25, 2021 by Mavideol

[pegman]

Suthep sure  knows his way around both sides of protests.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/10/thailand-protests-deputy-prime-minister

[berton]

7 minutes ago, hanuman2543 said:

Maybe you want to educate yourself about what happened 2013/2014 in Thailand so you don't have to rely on your complete uninformed drivel:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–2014_Thai_political_crisis

oh thanks....another interesting subject :you can reed wikipedia 50% according with my point , enough for me ...when I reed : "red shirts also opposed the amnesty"...for Thaksin ...555...only spidermike can write that ! , they dont speak that the dead people were 31 in the pacific protesters and 1 in the red shirts (strange ???) and so many important facts like accountings of protestors deputies blocked by governement and many  struggles that were acts of revenge , not acts of authority from governement. I was 3 times in the street with all the hospital that I work , I saw when helicopters put big lights in Ramkhamheng university to scare students, when police close this university. At 2 in the morning , the royal guard , came to deliver theese students (5000).... No wikipedia is not the Bible !

[Kinnock]

I think the Estate of George Orwell should sue the current Thai government for copyright infringements.  Animal Farm seems to have been used as their playbook.

[Stevemercer]

In most other countries this would be astonishing and sensational news - Three serving Cabinet Ministers convicted and jailed!!!

 

But here in Thailand it hardly seems to be news? The convicted Ministers have lost their posts (by stint of their convictions regardless of whether or not they end up doing any jail time), but will keep their parliamentary salaries and pensions. I guess in Thailand it is possible to be a serving member of parliament while in jail.

 

 

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, Stevemercer said:

In most other countries this would be astonishing and sensational news - Three serving Cabinet Ministers convicted and jailed!!!

 

But here in Thailand it hardly seems to be news? The convicted Ministers have lost their posts (by stint of their convictions regardless of whether or not they end up doing any jail time), but will keep their parliamentary salaries and pensions. I guess in Thailand it is possible to be a serving member of parliament while in jail.

 

 

one also can be a serving member of the government even after being convicted/jailed for drugs dealing in Australia

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

As are most politicians!

What about the unelected "PM" and his soldiers? Would you call them politicians? 

[hanuman2543]

41 minutes ago, berton said:

oh thanks....another interesting subject :you can reed wikipedia 50% according with my point , enough for me ...when I reed : "red shirts also opposed the amnesty"...for Thaksin ...555...only spidermike can write that ! , they dont speak that the dead people were 31 in the pacific protesters and 1 in the red shirts (strange ???) and so many important facts like accountings of protestors deputies blocked by governement and many  struggles that were acts of revenge , not acts of authority from governement. I was 3 times in the street with all the hospital that I work , I saw when helicopters put big lights in Ramkhamheng university to scare students, when police close this university. At 2 in the morning , the royal guard , came to deliver theese students (5000).... No wikipedia is not the Bible !

Conviniently forgot about him?

https://www.newmandala.org/the-myth-of-the-popcorn-gunman/

 

Can't find anything about the number of death of " Pacific" protesters you claim. That is the same for your Thaksin allegations.

Your arguments are like Swiss cheese, full of holes.

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[Caldera]

To think that the odious Suthep was spending quality time in prison while I had my morning coffee - priceless!

 

[safarimike11]

10 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Just out of curiosity...

 

How is what they did different from what Prayut and his friends did?

 

Didn't they both try to overthrow the legal government?

 

Is insurrection legal in Thailand if you succeed?

 

Does Thai law make a special provision if you are a member of the military?

 

Just askin'

 

 

 

Yingluck was removed from office on 7 May 2014 by a Constitutional Court decision. Gen. Prayut and his junta - like him or not - took over on the 22nd of May to prevent Suthep and his cronies from starting a revolution to take over the country. I was here and these are facts - like them or not.

[safarimike11]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

so all in Prayut's government but "political immunity" none in jail.... funny how things work here

Yingluck was removed from office on 7 May 2014 by a Constitutional Court decision. Gen. Prayut and his junta - like him or not - took over on the 22nd of May 2014, so you are incorrect.

[Solinvictus]

What a joke..It really is shocking the more you know about the reality of this place.

Edited February 25, 2021 by Solinvictus

[candide]

4 minutes ago, safarimike11 said:

Yingluck was removed from office on 7 May 2014 by a Constitutional Court decision. Gen. Prayut and his junta - like him or not - took over on the 22nd of May to prevent Suthep and his cronies from starting a revolution to take over the country. I was here and these are facts - like them or not.

Complete B.S.. Suthep's crowd was becoming thin and not a threat any more at that time. That's why the army took over. Suthep's protest failed (protest protected by the army BTW), the legal coup failed (they could oust Yingluck, but not her government), and elections were scheduled in July. So there was no other solution at hand for the dominant network.

 

And, of course, don't forget the long game was becoming shorter....

 

"The pro-Abhisit establishment and the powers that be are hunkering down for the long haul and Prayuth is their man. He could be in power for another four years – crucial in Thai politics because of the road towards the succession."

https://www.dw.com/en/thailands-new-army-chief-takes-office/a-6066746

[SupermarineS6B]

2 hours ago, Solinvictus said:

What a joke..It really is shocking the more you know about the reality of this place.

Why do you think they only want two week wonders here ?    The old timers know the score...... and it's not pleasant..... 

[SupermarineS6B]

8 hours ago, Katipo said:

Well that takes any wind out of the supposed justification for the coup. I assume the generals will step back from any and all involvement in government and hold fresh elections by the end of this year.

And win of course......... 

[from the home of CC]

okay, now for the phony billionaire who uses children as his shield....

[SupermarineS6B]

4 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

The military exists to protect a country and society from exterior forces. The police exists to protect a country and society from interior forces. 

Can you tell me the last time the military defended Thailand from exterior forces ? I can tell you the last time they attacked the Thai population if you'd like.....   As for the Thai police..... Where do you start ?   

[VincentRJ]

5 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

The military exists to protect a country and society from exterior forces. The police exists to protect a country and society from interior forces. 

 

And what happens if the turmoil is beyond the capabilities of the police to control. Does the military wait until there are thousands of deaths of both police and civilians before they take action? Is it not better to prevent those deaths by taking control before they happen?

[SupermarineS6B]

5 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

 

And what happens if the turmoil is beyond the capabilities of the police to control. Does the military wait until there are thousands of deaths of both police and civilians before they take action? Is it not better to prevent those deaths by taking control before they happen?

I don't think you understand that the police and the military are not batting on the same team......  Years ago police districts used to be fighting each other over the spoils of territory........ I don't know if you know but there's two Armys in Thailand....... Prayut's got one....... The other one's in slighty higher hands.....  

[HaoleBoy]

Why did this case against these 2013 protesters take so long?  The prosecutors or courts didn't have evidence until now?  

 

The young protesters of 2020 / 2021 are being hauled off to jail (without bail) immediately (or within months).  It certainly isn't taking 7+ yrs.

[overt2016]

What prison will they go to?

Is it the same one that ordinary people go to?

I can't  see these folk lasting too long on the budget of 54Baht per day for meals.

[tgw]

8 minutes ago, overt2016 said:

What prison will they go to?

Is it the same one that ordinary people go to?

I can't  see these folk lasting too long on the budget of 54Baht per day for meals.

 

good question!

I would like to know too if Thailand has VIP prisons like the USA.

[klauskunkel]

36 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

 

And what happens if the turmoil is beyond the capabilities of the police to control. Does the military wait until there are thousands of deaths of both police and civilians before they take action? Is it not better to prevent those deaths by taking control before they happen?

Do you really believe that the military/Prayut acted out of altruism?

Imo, Prayut received the go-ahead for the coup from Prem and a select few families, because he would serve their purposes better than the government at the time. The unrests and demonstrations were timed dressing to make everything go down well.

Did Yingluck deserve the turmoil? Of course she did, her government was corrupt and inept. But don't make the mistake believing Prayut selflessly saved the day, he had an entirely different agenda: He grabbed power and later did not relinquish it, instead he consolidated and legitimized his regime. 

As for legit military intervention to quell unrest inside the country, the correct way is for the government to decide on it, check the legality and announce and order the intervention.

 

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, safarimike11 said:

Yingluck was removed from office on 7 May 2014 by a Constitutional Court decision. Gen. Prayut and his junta - like him or not - took over on the 22nd of May 2014, so you are incorrect.

military coup and take over, used the court to make it look some how legal, didn't want to give up/back power, delayed elections long enough so his cronies could amend the constitution (assigning his party/himself a pre determined number of seats) to make sure loosing was out of question, win the ""so called democratic election"" because of his pre agreements with smaller kiss ass parties, besides that all was done according to "His" Constitutional Court, for a general that previously stated, in many occasions, not being interested in politics.... he did quite well 555

[spidermike007]

6 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

The military exists to protect a country and society from exterior forces. The police exists to protect a country and society from interior forces. 

In this case, do either apply?