Thailand reports 72 new COVID-19 infections

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Thailand reports 72 new COVID-19 infections

 

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Thailand reported 72 new coronavirus cases on Thursday.

 

As has been consistent with cases during the new wave of infections in the country, most were discovered during testing of migrant workers at quarantine facilities and hospitals in Samut Sakhon.

 

Of the new cases, 63 were local transmissions, while 9 were imported from people entering quarantine.

 

192 people were discharged from hospital having made a full recovery, which is significant as there are now less one thousand people being treated for COVID-19 in Thailand. 

 

947 people remain in hospital or held in a migrant worker quarantine centre.

 

Thursday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 25,764, with 83 deaths. 

 

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Futsal COVID-19 cluster under close watch after seven players infected

 

 

Health officials are closely monitoring a suspected COVID-19 cluster, after seven members of a futsal team in Samut Sakhon were founded to be infected, as Thailand today records 72 new COVID-19 cases.

 

CCSA assistant spokesperson Dr. Apisamai Srirangsan told the media today (Thursday) that two of the futsal players, who tested positive for the virus, are Bangkok residents.

 

Health officials have already traced about 50 people who were in close contact with the infected footballers and they are now awaiting test results, she said, adding that the two infected players are students in Bangkok, but went to play with the team in Samut Sakhon.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/futsal-covid-19-cluster-under-close-watch-after-seven-players-infected/

 

 

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[FarFlungFalang]

Seems like testing numbers have been falling lately.

 

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day

Edited February 25, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[rabas]

Last one to post, please turn out the lights. 

 

Looks like it's almost over.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

Maybe someone can workout better than me the actual number of tests performed (according to the graph) at the peak on Jan 12 the 7 day rolling average was 0.44 per 1000 people (presumably population) because I get 30359 (from population of 69 million) which is an average of 4337 per day for 7 days at the peak.

[FarFlungFalang]

4 minutes ago, rabas said:

Last one to post, please turn out the lights. 

 

Looks like it's almost over.

 

The graph seems to indicate some correlation between testing numbers and the case numbers so once the testing stops it will be over.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Seems like testing numbers have been falling lately.

 

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day

If the number of tests last year were the same as the peak this year what would the numbers show. Of course the majority of the peak this yr is confined to the prisoners of covid not the wider community. Just can't see how they can justify the numbers. As I have said before countries increase testing to get to zero. Here they decrease to get to zero. Seems to be on track.

Edited February 25, 2021 by dinsdale

[polpott]

6 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The graph seems to indicate some correlation between testing numbers and the case numbers so once the testing stops it will be over.

Horse and cart. Once there are no new cases, testing will stop.

[FarFlungFalang]

Here are the number of cases for people to draw their own conclusions from.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases?country=IND~USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~FRA

[Petey11]

When you look at the numbers it's not true that most were found in testing of migrants, it's roughly 50/50. And most cases are now been found in hospital walk-ins. Obviously testing if migrant internment is winding down now and as everyone knows, unless a person is quite ill or worried, the enforced stay in hospital for a positive covid test is a deterrent from going to get tested.

[FarFlungFalang]

8 minutes ago, polpott said:

Horse and cart. Once there are no new cases, testing will stop.

That's what happens here but there are other countries that don't do that.If you haven't noticed there are still new clusters here in Thailand they are finding with their limited testing.If you don't test how do you know if you should be testing?It might be a case of cart and horse if the testing stops the number of cases stops.

Edited February 25, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[Petey11]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Seems like testing numbers have been falling lately.

 

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day

If they kept testing at 10k plus a day and numbers were falling you could say then that infection was decreasing, but as you say, tests falling, numbers falling so hard to tell.

[rabas]

12 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

If they kept testing at 10k plus a day and numbers were falling you could say then that infection was decreasing, but as you say, tests falling, numbers falling so hard to tell.

So you don't know, correct? But they do. How?

 

You must look at the number of positives per  test.  That tells you if real case numbers are being reduced.

 

Positives per test has dropped from 5% (5 per 100) at the peak recent peak all the way down to 1% (1 per 100) now. Thus, totla cases are falling.  These numbers have been posted several times.

Edited February 25, 2021 by rabas

[dinsdale]

12 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

When you look at the numbers it's not true that most were found in testing of migrants, it's roughly 50/50. And most cases are now been found in hospital walk-ins. Obviously testing if migrant internment is winding down now and as everyone knows, unless a person is quite ill or worried, the enforced stay in hospital for a positive covid test is a deterrent from going to get tested.

Not so at the peak. 700, 800, 900+ positives at the time were mostly the people from Myanmar. As of now I agree it's hospital presentations. This is in line with the downward spiral of testing.

[FarFlungFalang]

Just now, rabas said:

So you don't know, correct? But they do. How?

 

You must look at the number of positives per  test.  That tells you if real case numbers are being reduced.

 

Positives per test has dropped from 5% (5 per 100) at the peak recent peak all the way down to 1% (1 per 100) now.  These number have been posted several times.

That percentage depends on who and where you test, if you test little you will not know what you've missed.If you test a lot you will get a better picture, it's like opening you eyes, you will see more than if you close them.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, rabas said:

So you don't know, correct? But they do. How?

 

You must look at the number of positives per  test.  That tells you if real case numbers are being reduced.

 

Positives per test has dropped from 5% (5 per 100) at the peak recent peak all the way down to 1% (1 per 100) now. Thus, totla cases are falling.  These numbers have been posted several times.

Makes sense but lets say 1000 tests not 100. Wait what about 10,000 tests. States in Australia do 10 or 12,000 tests a day when they find 1 case.

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not so at the peak. 700, 800, 900+ positives at the time were mostly the people from Myanmar. As of now I agree it's hospital presentations. This is in line with the downward spiral of testing.

It's would be good to know where they're testing and who was being tested and if they stopped testing the factories after they locked up all those workers.What's happening to them now that everyone has moved on to the latest BS stories being reported here in the country that ranks 104th for transparency and corruption?

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Makes sense but lets say 1000 tests not 100. Wait what about 10,000 tests. States in Australia do 10 or 12,000 tests a day when they find 1 case.

Victoria gets up to 22,000 per day lately.

[dinsdale]

46 minutes ago, polpott said:

Horse and cart. Once there are no new cases, testing will stop.

Let's flip that. When testing stops there will be no new cases.

Hospital presentations will, however, continue so zero cases for 14 days straight is unlikely for some time to come.

Edited February 25, 2021 by dinsdale

[FarFlungFalang]

If you look at the dates of the peaks in each of the graphs there's a 2 week difference.The number of tests peaks on the 12 Jan and the number of reported cases peaks on the 2nd of Feb.On Feb 2nd the number of tests had halved to about 2000 tests per day which would bump the positivity rate up by double.The lag between the two graphs might indicate it took 2 weeks to actually report the number of positive cases, but we wouldn't know because they are not exactly transparent.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, Petey11 said:

everyone knows, unless a person is quite ill or worried, the enforced stay in hospital for a positive covid test is a deterrent from going to get tested.

Why is it a deterrent?

[FarFlungFalang]

41 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Why is it a deterrent?

Who wants to locked up for 2 weeks if you're not sick?I know I don't so I won't volunteer to get tested.That's why it's a deterrent.I also won't let anyone stick one of those sticks in my nose and rub it against my brain tissue.

[rabas]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If you look at the dates of the peaks in each of the graphs there's a 2 week difference.The number of tests peaks on the 12 Jan and the number of reported cases peaks on the 2nd of Feb.On Feb 2nd the number of tests had halved to about 2000 tests per day which would bump the positivity rate up by double.The lag between the two graphs might indicate it took 2 weeks to actually report the number of positive cases, but we wouldn't know because they are not exactly transparent.

Here is the full story, tests, cases, and timeline in one graph.

 

The key to this graph is the sloped, dashed lines labelled 5%, 2%, 1%, etc. These lines are percent tested positive. As the outbreak began rising on Jan 26, percent positive tests rose from 1%, moving right up to 5%.  After the peak, percent positives quickly dropped to 1% before testing dropped. !

 

If the drop in cases was due to less testing then the graph must follow the red 5% line, where 5 in 100 of test population remain positive all the way to the bottom. This is not what happened.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by rabas

[polpott]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Let's flip that. When testing stops there will be no new cases.

Hospital presentations will, however, continue so zero cases for 14 days straight is unlikely for some time to come.

if hospital presentations continue cases will not fall to zero therefore testing will continue.

[rabas]

2 minutes ago, polpott said:

if hospital presentations continue cases will not fall to zero therefore testing will continue.

 

Yes! The testing cart must follow the infected horse!

[Bkk Brian]

Everyday now walk in hospital cases are more than those found positive via proactive testing. 43 walk ins and just 20 found via proactive testing, more than double.

 

A stark reminder that this is still brewing they are just not finding them unless they present themselves.

[bolt]

For me the serious stuff will start next winter,

will the country be open to tourists WITHOUT quarantine?

will it be tourists coming from certain countries that don’t need to quarantine?

Will it be vaccinated tourists

 

And then we could have a 3^rd wave in Europe with new variants putting everyone back to square one.

 

Next winter will be the real true test

[polpott]

I don't think you have any idea what "walk ins" are. Primarily people who have been in contact with someone who is a known positive and found via tracking and tracing which has proved very effective in Thailand. Unlike UK, USA etc. where it has been as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Edited February 26, 2021 by onthedarkside
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[polpott]

2 minutes ago, bolt said:

And then we could have a 3^rd wave in Europe with new variants putting everyone back to square one.

The main vaccines have proved effective against the variants found thus far.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, polpott said:

I don't think you have any idea what "walk ins" are. Primarily people who have been in contact with someone who is a known positive and found via tracking and tracing which has proved very effective in Thailand. Unlike UK, USA etc. where it has been as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Actually I do understand what walk ins are, as stated, simply people walking in to hospital to get tested, its impossible to say why this is the case and to speculate that its one or the other is just that, speculation. Its not via track and trace however as that is under the proactive cases counts.

 

It could be any number of reasons why, they may have gone to a high risk area, they may have been advised to by the app, they may have symptoms. 

 

However the bottom line is they are out there, yesterday 43 of them walking around who had caught it from somebody else.