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Chatting to an old friend last night, he mentioned that he paid 1000 baht for a Residency Certificate at an Isarn Immigration Office.

He was told straight that he would not get it if he never paid up. 

 

I am pretty sure that these certificates are free. I've only ever had one and never paid anything but I got the feeling that they were not happy giving it to me, They said I would have to pay 500 baht for the next one, which I won't need. When questioned as to this fee, they  shrugged it off and wouldn't answer.

 

My questions - 

1- Is this corruption by charging for a free service?

2- if it is, who should these complaints be made with?

 

IF you have been extorted, having to pay bribes, how did you deal with it? 

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Boy i sure wish all you guys getting upset about the way things work here ( usually paying 10 baht more for a songteow once in a while,  or getting hit up for 500 baht ( $12 ) for this "service"  ...

Was there a receipt?   Yes - all above board No - possibly not all above board.   Just be happy you don't have to get said certificate from the British Embassy, cost is somewh

True, but when foreigners extorted by police,  especially on the scale of this, I feel it is my duty to report it.         

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7 minutes ago, jackdd said:

By issuing such a document they are doing you a favor which they don't have to do, so in my opinion a small "tip" (100THB or so) would be OK in this case, the usually requested 500 THB are of course over the top.

The "fee" obviously goes into their own pockets, thus it is corruption, but it also means that the fee is negotiable, most immigration offices seem to ask for 300-500THB, if your friend had discussed the fee they would probably have accepted 500.

It is illegal to tip police officers.

 

So it is extortion. 

 

Are you sure they don't have to give it if requested for a valid reason, eg. getting a driver's license? 

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4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you sure they don't have to give it if requested for a valid reason, eg. getting a driver's license? 

If there was ever such an order, they would most likely have standardized the certificate of residence, and a form to request it, and would have given this document a TM number, because this is what they did with all other official immigration forms (TM7, TM30, TM47 and so on...).

That it doesn't have such a TM number, does most likely mean that an order which instructs them to issue it doesn't exist. I don't know it to 100%, there is a very small chance that maybe 30 years ago a prime minister issued such an order, but probably not. If you manage to find any such order let me know, I would be very interested in seeing it as well.

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7 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I understand but police charging a service fee seems wrong, if not illegal, to me.  

Were not talking about the Police...it`s the Immigration Office...where they can "legally" screw us....again TIT :whistling:

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28 minutes ago, jackdd said:

In English both documents use the same name, but they are completely different.

They are named differently.

The certificate of residency is as you stated for permanent residents.

 

For proof of address to obtain a DL the form for that is a 'residence certificate'.

APPLICCATION FORM RESIDENCE CERTIFICATE IN THAILAND
แบบฟอรร์มการขอหนนังสสือรนับรองททที่พนักอาศนัยในประเทศไทย
IMMIGRATION BUREAU

 

It is we the foreigners who incorrectly call it a certificate of residence as already demonstrated in this topic.

 

Res cert App form..pdf

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Well I got two RCs last month for zero baht at Korat office, I just had to wait a week to get them.

The cost for same day service was quoted as 1000 baht for two.

I said to the staff NO and all was ok. 

I only needed the RC to renew my bike and car licence's.

 

It is a free service, unless you ask for extras. Love this place 555

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1 hour ago, petermik said:

Were not talking about the Police...it`s the Immigration Office...where they can "legally" screw us....again TIT :whistling:

Immigration officers are police, unless I am mistaken. 

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

It's a free service at CW however the extras are compulsory. 200baht.

Do you get a receipt? If not, it is corruption, full stop.

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1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

They can only screw us if we don't complain. 

 

Once, sitting waiting for my 90-day report, I saw the following box on the window. 

I immediately informed a former Minister of Finance who put it on his Facebook page and there were over 200 comments on how the police can't ask for tips. 

I don't want to break the rules here by posting a Facebook page, but it can be found by going to his page  and searching 'tip box'  - Korn Chatikavanij

That tip box was removed the next day. 

 

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Exactly. The best way to stop this kind of stuff is by recording it and publicising it. And it's so easy these days. 

 

A lot of foreign people in Thailand are scared of their own shadow when it comes to government officials. 

 

They get paid to serve you, not themselves. 

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2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

It is illegal to tip police officers.

 

So it is extortion. 

 

Are you sure they don't have to give it if requested for a valid reason, eg. getting a driver's license? 

so is offering or giving a bribe - this isn't a 'one way' offense, so basically there are probably hundreds of foreigners who have broken the law here to get their extensions. 

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