rooster59 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Sinovac Covid-19 Vaccines Pass Quality Tests Subhabhong Rarueysong BANGKOK (NNT) - The first batch of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccines that arrived Thailand on Wednesday has passed the quality tests and are ready for delivery to state hospitals. Department of Medical Sciences (DMS) Director-General Dr Supakit Sirilak said tests on 320 shots from the shipment showed that the vaccines had been produced according to the standards set out in the contract. He said the DMS has already informed the Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO), tasked with overseeing the shipment, about the outcome of the quality testing. The next step will be for the GPO to ask the Department of Disease Control to provide a list of hospitals set to receive the Sinovac vaccine. It is expected that the vaccines will be dispatched to the targeted hospitals in 13 provinces over the weekend. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-02-28 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freeduhdum Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Is it possible to read that contract? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mr mr Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The first batch of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccines that arrived Thailand on Wednesday has passed the quality tests and are ready for delivery to state hospitals. was there ever any doubt about this one ? ha 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggy Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, rooster59 said: showed that the vaccines had been produced according to the standards set out in the contract. Yes, but more to the point, does it work? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canopus1969 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 That's great news for the PM - as the AZ shot is in dispute he can have a shot of this Sinovac instead 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Well it's NOT good enough for the PM! Thai PM postpones vaccine jab indefinitely due to technical problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Will the PM bottle out getting a shot of the Chinese stuff. regards Worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I don't want the Chinese rubbish, OK!....................................... I want AZ, OK! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: The first batch of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccines that arrived Thailand on Wednesday has passed the quality tests and are ready for delivery to state hospitals. why is the PM not getting this 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmen Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, smedly said: why is the PM not getting this He will in a few days if the health Minister is still alive 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) sinovac is for below 60, astrazeneca also was researched on a control group under 65, so really there is nothing for seniors. both of them are only an emergency use, AZ still in combined phases 2/3, sinovac phase 3 Edited February 28, 2021 by internationalism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post topt Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, internationalism said: astrazeneca also was researched on a control group under 65, so really there is nothing for seniors. For what it's worth a story here about reducing death and submission rates in the elderly in UK - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307729/Oxford-vaccine-effective-Pfizer-jab-new-figures-show.html Quote Deaths among the over-75s have dropped by 40 per cent, while the number of over-85s being admitted to intensive care units with Covid has dropped close to zero. The strong results for the Oxford vaccine are a rebuke to the German authorities, which last month advised against its use in the over-65s. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanuk711 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) The two opposing faces of vaccine research Edited February 28, 2021 by sanuk711 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Wiggy said: Yes, but more to the point, does it work? Well I would'nt inject my plastic gekko with it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) Food for thought -- 2019 article from the very credible U.S. Council on Foreign Relations: https://www.cfr.org/blog/us-dependence-pharmaceutical-products-china U.S. Dependence on Pharmaceutical Products From China "...concern about the safety and efficacy of Chinese-made pharmaceuticals is another component. In the summer of 2018, one of China’s largest domestic vaccine makers sold at least 250,000 substandard doses of vaccine for diphtheria, tetanus, and whooping cough. It was the latest in a slew of scandals caused by poor quality drug products made in China over the last decade. In 2008, the contamination of a raw ingredient imported from China and used to make heparin, a blood-thinning drug, was associated with at least eighty-one deaths the United States. According to an investigative journalist, fraud and manipulation of quality data is still endemic in Chinese pharmaceutical firms." Edited February 28, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 90% western option vs 50% chinese one ? Think i'd wait mate, unless there's a submarine promotional discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: The first batch of Sinovac Covid-19 vaccines that arrived Thailand on Wednesday has passed the quality tests and are ready for delivery to state hospitals. And the result was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, PatOngo said: Well I would'nt inject my plastic gekko with it! You have a plastic gekko? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, hotchilli said: You have a plastic gekko? Does'nt everybody??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjinchiangrai Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The shot will not kill you. I would take whatever is available now, and maybe get something else later, just to make sure. 50% today is a better bet than nothing until next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The thing I find odd about the Sinovac vaccine is the low implementation within China. When you look at total numbers it's second only to the US, but with a much larger population. You then look at doses per 100 people and China is almost at the bottom of the pack. Why if it's so effective aren't the Chinese sticking doses in their own peoples arms as fast as they can? Doesn't make sense to me. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) Great that it passed but I'll also pass on using it. I've had more than my share of Chinese junk since I've lived here. Edited February 28, 2021 by RocketDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Does'nt everybody??? Should I swap my chicken for one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Tea Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Thai beers also pass quality tests & even win medals ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 "Fearing embarrassment, Chinese vaccine makers are cherry-picking the data rather than publishing the results in full." https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2021-02-26/china-must-stop-hiding-its-vaccine-data 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: "Fearing embarrassment, Chinese vaccine makers are cherry-picking the data rather than publishing the results in full." https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2021-02-26/china-must-stop-hiding-its-vaccine-data Good article, and maybe confirms my suspicions in the earlier poet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: "Fearing embarrassment, Chinese vaccine makers are cherry-picking the data rather than publishing the results in full." https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2021-02-26/china-must-stop-hiding-its-vaccine-data The Foreign Affairs journal you link here is published by the Council on Foreign Relations, which was the source of my post above about problems with past Chinese-made vaccines. They are a very credible source, and not any kind of anti-vaccine loonies. Your linked article included the following re Sinovac: "China’s Sinovac has been the worst offender. The company has reported only bits and pieces of efficacy data from its various overseas trials to suggest that its CoronaVac vaccine is highly effective. Based on these reports, Chinese state-linked media claimed that CoronaVac was 100 percent effective at preventing severe COVID-19. But subsequent reports suggested 91 percent efficacy in Turkey, 78 percent in Brazil, and 65 percent in Indonesia. The company’s Brazilian research partners reported just 50.4 percent efficacy—barely above the World Health Organization’s minimum threshold of 50.0 percent for recommending a vaccine at all. Even now, Sinovac’s Brazilian partners are withholding their full data “at the company’s request.” It's getting very confusing. Just the other day, the doctors on US President Biden's CV task force did an opinion article in USA Today urging people to take any of the currently available vaccines, saying all -- including Sinovac -- had been proven to prevent CV serious illness and death, even if they had varying rates for preventing lesser illness. Take whatever COVID vaccine you can get. All of them stop death and hospitalization. Waiting for a more effective vaccine is actually the worst thing you can do to lower your risk of getting severely ill and dying of COVID-19. "Our advice is simple: Take whatever vaccine is offered to you. Right now, all of the vaccines are the “best.” This is what we’re doing for ourselves. The varying “effectiveness” rates miss the most important point: The vaccines were all 100% effective in the vaccine trials in stopping hospitalizations and death.Waiting for a more effective vaccine is actually the worst thing you can do to lower your risk of getting severely ill and dying of COVID-19." ... All seven COVID-19 vaccines that have completed large efficacy trials — Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, Novavax, AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Sinovac — appear to be 100% effective for serious complications. Not one vaccinated person has gotten sick enough to require hospitalization. Not a single vaccinated person has died of COVID-19." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/02/12/all-covid-vaccines-stop-death-severe-illness-column/6709455002/ That's assuming, I guess, that you can believe the Sinovac data that's been reported is truthful and credible. Edited February 28, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, PatOngo said: Well I would'nt inject my plastic gekko with it! 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: You have a plastic gekko? He did. It caught Covid 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, PatOngo said: Well I would'nt inject my plastic gekko with it! 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: You have a plastic gekko? 1 hour ago, PatOngo said: Does'nt everybody??? Not any more. Mine caught Covid 19. Tragic it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Here's the chart that Biden's CV advisors in the USA Today article linked to supporting their claim that all 7 vaccines -- including Sinovac -- had proven effective at preventing death and hospitalization.... Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, Dr. Celine Gounder, epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, Ph.D., Dr. Luciana Borio, Dr. Atul Gawande and immunologist Rick Bright, Ph.D. are members of the Biden-Harris Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board. The latest version of the chart they linked to does NOT seem to include the Sinovac vaccine, despite their article mentioning it. But an earlier version of the same chart from the same source did list the Sinovac vaccine, but didn't make the same claims for it... no mention of no deaths in the yellow highlighted column. But I guess the question remains, can the Sinovac trials data that's been reported be considered as truthful and reliable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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