Popular Post webfact 86029 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 Army's recruitment drive flops: Only 4,805 apply out of 10K target Picture: Daily News The Thai army set a target of 10,000 new recruits for a recruitment drive conducted mostly online last month. But only 4,805 people applied, admitted deputy army spokeswoman Sirijan Ngathong yesterday. Recruitment was split into two groups, reported Daily News, namely 18-20 year olds and those aged 22-29. It was not explained why 21 year old were not part of the intake. Sirijan said that 80% of the applicants were aged 18-20 and most had applied online. Region 1 had 1,157 applicants, rehion 2 1,627, region 3 815 and region 4 1,206. Only 20 applied for officer training. The online and registration at recruitment centers ran from the 1st to the 28th of February and meant that only 48% of the target had been reached. What to do next will be discussed later this week. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-03-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ThailandRyan 21634 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 You call almost 50% of the volunteer's goal a flop for the first attempt at something. Wow. If I had a goal of 1 million dollars to be donated and only raised 50% I would be happy with what I had and go for a second round. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edwinchester 8644 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I read somewhere that over 100,000 of Thailand's Armed Forces are conscripts. Small wonder those in charge of conscription want it to continue as the number of volunteers would indicate they'd have a real problem maintaining the numbers should it be stopped. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post billd766 27146 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 Perhaps if Thailand got rid of at least 75% of the generals, and turned themselves into a proper professional army, that would be just stage 1. They would need to pay a good working salary, give good skills training, give proper career paths and good promotion prospects, that would be stage 2. Promotion based on skills and merit ONLY, got rid of all the useless dead wood cluttering up the army. That would be stage 3. Keep politicians away from the army and the army away from politics would be stage 4. ANY attempts at sedition or yet another military coup to be treated as treason, leading to execution of ALL the officers involved from the top down to perhaps the rank of captain, and enforce it would be stage 5. Sadly, in Thailand it would not get as far as stage 1. 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mavideol 13131 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 too many "chiefs" (generals) and not enough "indians" (soldiers).... and I thought the majority of Thais wanted to be part of Prayut's team and get their monthly rewards 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Gravy 14859 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: You call almost 50% of the volunteer's goal a flop for the first attempt at something. Wow. If I had a goal of 1 million dollars to be donated and only raised 50% I would be happy with what I had and go for a second round. But it is not about money it is about soldiers that are needed. Yes it is a flop and like many other countries that are struggling to recruit soldiers in this modern world. Link to post Share on other sites
ThailandRyan 21634 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: But it is not about money it is about soldiers that are needed. Yes it is a flop and like many other countries that are struggling to recruit soldiers in this modern world. So then complete a second round of registrations and open up recruitment centers like in the west. To say it went pear shaped is a little bit dramatic in my book. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Gravy 14859 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, ThailandRyan said: So then complete a second round of registrations and open up recruitment centers like in the west. To say it went pear shaped is a little bit dramatic in my book. Yes open it up again and make the target wider. You sound like your aplogising for it. As I said, many countries are having the same issue. Link to post Share on other sites
KhunBENQ 16115 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Not so many want to be humiliated, enjoying initiation rites? Dog walking (knee slipping) naked hanging on to the private parts of your man in front? They miss so much fun. Edited March 2 by KhunBENQ Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post John Drake 2192 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 54 minutes ago, billd766 said: Perhaps if Thailand got rid of at least 75% of the generals, and turned themselves into a proper professional army, that would be just stage 1. To what end? Who are they going to invade? Who is going to invade them? The fact is of their neighbors who are powerful enough to invade them (China and Vietnam, basically), Thailand couldn't stop them no matter how professional they made themselves. As for the rest (Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia, Malaysia) none is a threat or capable of invading against what Thailand already has. The army doesn't need to be made professional. It needs to be scaled down and its resources applied elsewhere. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
smutcakes 8258 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 The army want compulsory conscription as they are sent many soldiers who would prefer to stay at home. That way those who want to stay at home can go home and the generals, other ranks above that get to keep that conscripts allowance. Those who join up willingly are unlikely to accept going home. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ThailandRyan 21634 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 9 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Yes open it up again and make the target wider. You sound like your aplogising for it. As I said, many countries are having the same issue. Not apologizing for it, just making a statement as to the hypocrisy that the drive flopped, when in all actuality it was semi successful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RichardColeman 30384 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Maybe they don't want to be in any way responsible for beating the public up 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sammieuk1 21034 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 No appetite for shifting shipping containers around Bangkok is one theory 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post PatOngo 49754 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 Is it remotely possible that people are just plain fed up with the army? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Justgrazing 20870 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 With sub's on order you'd think they'd be looking for submariners .. outside of Prawit's personal collection that is .. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
phetphet 1720 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 It's not more soldiers that they need. It's more sailors. Or to be more precise, submariners. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kimamey 2029 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 hours ago, billd766 said: Perhaps if Thailand got rid of at least 75% of the generals, and turned themselves into a proper professional army, that would be just stage 1. They would need to pay a good working salary, give good skills training, give proper career paths and good promotion prospects, that would be stage 2. Promotion based on skills and merit ONLY, got rid of all the useless dead wood cluttering up the army. That would be stage 3. Keep politicians away from the army and the army away from politics would be stage 4. ANY attempts at sedition or yet another military coup to be treated as treason, leading to execution of ALL the officers involved from the top down to perhaps the rank of captain, and enforce it would be stage 5. Sadly, in Thailand it would not get as far as stage 1. Good idea although I would add that politics needs cleaning up as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ramrod711 7364 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, webfact said: But only 4,805 people applied 4,800 more than I expected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Artisi 16351 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, billd766 said: Perhaps if Thailand got rid of at least 75% of the generals, and turned themselves into a proper professional army, that would be just stage 1. They would need to pay a good working salary, give good skills training, give proper career paths and good promotion prospects, that would be stage 2. Promotion based on skills and merit ONLY, got rid of all the useless dead wood cluttering up the army. That would be stage 3. Keep politicians away from the army and the army away from politics would be stage 4. ANY attempts at sedition or yet another military coup to be treated as treason, leading to execution of ALL the officers involved from the top down to perhaps the rank of captain, and enforce it would be stage 5. Sadly, in Thailand it would not get as far as stage 1. Stage 1, Solly no untersand 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hotchilli 18696 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, webfact said: The online and registration at recruitment centers ran from the 1st to the 28th of February and meant that only 48% of the target had been reached. What to do next will be discussed later this week. They could demote some of the useless generals? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Artisi 16351 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 31 minutes ago, kimamey said: Good idea although I would add that politics needs cleaning up as well. That should be number 1 priority, get that properly sorted and the armed forces fiasco would follow? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Burma Bill 4385 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 5 hours ago, webfact said: Only 20 applied for officer training A very good sign - less Generals for the future!! Link to post Share on other sites
connda 18659 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I remember some TV member recently asking if people though his son who has dual citizenship would manage to be exempt from the draft because he thought that 10K kids would volunteer due to the economic downturn. Uh-Oh. Guess not. I recommended that his kid volunteer for the Air Force. Better than being a IED or sniper target in the three southern-most Thai (Maylay) provinces. Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Gravy 14859 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 15 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Not apologizing for it, just making a statement as to the hypocrisy that the drive flopped, when in all actuality it was semi successful. I think we will have to disagree on the word successful being used. In business you would want at least 75% or more to class it as successful. Even the UK are struggling. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/09/british-army-recruitment-shortfalls-may-be-symptoms-of-changing-times 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mtls2005 17289 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Offer additional incentives. Pluck "candidates" from jail/prisons/judicial system Anything is better than that annual lottery draw. What a fisaco. Link to post Share on other sites
billd766 27146 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 22 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: So then complete a second round of registrations and open up recruitment centers like in the west. To say it went pear shaped is a little bit dramatic in my book. 48% is a good showing for the first try. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr mr 6272 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 22 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: But it is not about money it is about soldiers that are needed. Yes it is a flop and like many other countries that are struggling to recruit soldiers in this modern world. young people are not too keen anymore killing each other for rich people. the information age changes everything. this planet has no need for soldier's preparing for war anymore. time to move past this caveman mentality. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Gravy 14859 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, mr mr said: young people are not too keen anymore killing each other for rich people. the information age changes everything. this planet has no need for soldier's preparing for war anymore. time to move past this caveman mentality. You make a very liberal point and as i get older I can see what you mean. But as an ex soldier there are still things that people believe in fighting for, instead of bending over and taking it. This forums country would be one example as people just let the same trash happen again and again. Link to post Share on other sites
billd766 27146 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 hours ago, mr mr said: young people are not too keen anymore killing each other for rich people. the information age changes everything. this planet has no need for soldier's preparing for war anymore. time to move past this caveman mentality. Try telling that to Russia, China, N Korea, USA, UK, EU, Israel, Iran, Iraq, Syria and all the other rag tag and bobtail countries and see what response you get. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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