tribalfusion001 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, robblok said: No just read how good Brazil is doing.... If you don't do something your country will be overrun with the virus. Its a bit tiresome of course opening everything up would be good but then you got people dying like flies like in Brazil. Do your research a bit more please. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/03/world/americas/brazil-covid-variant.html Plenty of countries have not been "over run", in fact quite the opposite with minimal health policies, but that's down to the demographics of the countries. Places with high levels of obesity and overweight people is where the problem is. Edited March 5, 2021 by tribalfusion001 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just now, tribalfusion001 said: Plenty of countries have not been "over run", in fact quite the opposite with minimal health policies, but that's down to the demographics of the countries. Places with high levels of obesity and overweight people is where the problem is. Europe and the US have been overrun so please stop posting non sense and irrelevant stuff. Brazil is a good example just not one that you want to know. Thing is i get it nobody likes the travel restrictions and lockdowns. But it makes sure that hospitals can cope. The UK and Netherlands came again close to having problems. Not to mention of all operations that were postponed because of the COVID epidemic. The problems are far larger then you like to acknowledge. Nobody wants to hurt the economy. For the west to go this far there is surely a threat. We seen in the US what bad managing did and the UK was also bad. Italy is also a good example. The Netherlands came close to a shortage of ICU beds. Many operations postponed ect. Overworked doctors and nurses. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Patts Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Definitely good news for those who don't want to wait until the national roll out. I will get it for sure and being able to choose which vaccine is a bonus. Pfizer / AZ / J&J for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 How is the Thai FDA approaching this? Up to recently there hasn't been an authorization for most of those 'experimental' mRNA genetic vaccines. Then suddenly we hear - "Oh! Private hospitals all over Thailand will be offering multiple kinds of jabs at a price ฿฿฿Cha-Ching฿฿฿. Obviously the Hi-Sos in the power concur. Engage in a predatory vaccine economy. TIT. Money supercedes the mandate of public health. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Yorkshire Tea said: $50? Did you fail maths at school? ???? guess you're one of those with a double quarantine coming lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 hours ago, robblok said: I have no problem paying for this, let them make some profit it gets you in front of the line. I dont think 4000 bt is too much for this. Good for you. Why not 6K or 8K. You want it bad enough. Pay though the nose baby. Me? I'm gonna wait until I'm forced to have it as a condition of extending my visa. I'm sure that will eventually happen. But then - they better provide a provider in the name of Public Health as opposed to Private Hospital Greed. You guys dying to get a Covid Jab Quick-Quick? Yeah, why not. 10,000 THB. How about 20,000. You want it? Go get some. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freeduhdum Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Kelsall said: Unless a shot guarantees entrance into Thailand without quarantine, it's not worth it. So far one still has to go through quarantine regardless of vaccination status. The other issue is, the Chinese vaxx does you no good if for example you want to work in the USA. Not sure about companies in other parts of the world, but if they are USA based, this Chinese vaxx is a no go. They require an FDA approved Vaxx... It appears, for example, the philipines, they received the initial donated Chinese vaxx and then switched to Astra Zenica after all the reports of fake vaccines and their citizens who want to work abroad cannot use. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, guzzi850m2 said: IMO so no firm info? I am sure you will survive the 50$ if that the case?? I want the vaccine as soon as possible. no one has firm info. I also want to be vaccinated ASAP. My comment related to all the cheap ass folks who will quibble about this because they're used to paying an exorbitant tax rate at home and then get 'free' health care. Start paying the same rate to live here and I'm sure the Thais will give you a freebie - oh wait, the country just emptied lol... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stocky Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Topic has been up for just 4hrs and there's 5 pages of largely 'money grabbing' Thai bashing comments already. This is just market forces, you have to pay to jump the queue. So whoopee sign me up Bht4000 for two jabs is fine with me, I don't want to wait until next year. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussienam Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: Yet the UK manufacturer is selling the vaccine at $5 a shot (OK $7.50 to South Africa). Why can't the Thai hospitals buy it at the open market rate? One thing I have learnt in Thailand is that the markup for medications is massive. For example, a Lorazepam tablet 5mg in Australia (via a prescription and doctor consultation that is bulk billed) for a generic brand costs 8 cents each. At 20 Thai Baht to 1 AUD, that equates to 1.6THB each. But in Thailand the clinic price for Lorazepam is 20THB each. That is $1AUD per tablet, which is 12.5 times or 1,250% more expensive here. Plenty of other examples. So I am not surprised in any way that the price for a dosage of one of the vaccines would be 2000THB each. Of course as the article reads, that would include a service fee for a nurse to inject you, cost of a syringe, swab, band-aid and probably a medical questionnaire/assessment to ensure you qualify. Edited March 5, 2021 by aussienam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, webfact said: When the cost of sending it and service charges are added they expected to offer the vaccine to patients at 2,000 baht per dose. You're dreaming if you think you gonna get it for that price at Bangkok Hospital. That price will already be on the bill before you even have seen a doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Farang Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I would love to pay and get the Vaccine early. But it would mean that the Vaccine is being diverted away from a poor/more deserving person in Thailand or another Country. For that reason I will wait until it's my turn. I'm in 14/15 of a group system, so it looks like it will be towards the end of year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, robblok said: Europe and the US have been overrun so please stop posting non sense and irrelevant stuff. Brazil is a good example just not one that you want to know. Thing is i get it nobody likes the travel restrictions and lockdowns. But it makes sure that hospitals can cope. The UK and Netherlands came again close to having problems. Not to mention of all operations that were postponed because of the COVID epidemic. The problems are far larger then you like to acknowledge. Nobody wants to hurt the economy. For the west to go this far there is surely a threat. We seen in the US what bad managing did and the UK was also bad. Italy is also a good example. The Netherlands came close to a shortage of ICU beds. Many operations postponed ect. Overworked doctors and nurses. Oh sorry I'm not mainstream media enough for you. I'm in the UK now, never came close to having any serious problems and still non essential shops are closed, no bars or restaurants open. The UK's problem come from it's overweight and obese population, same as the USA and western Europe. Coming back to Thailand with 14 day quarantine is not a good option so I'm going to Kenya next month to escape the boring UK. Kenya pretty much zero covid and the same applies to neighbouring Tanzania which is a red list country because they don't bother testing for covid anymore. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 hours ago, AlexRich said: I would pay to get the vaccine of my choice. I believe the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is only one shot? But I’d probably go for Pfizer as it’s been around longer and appears to be very effective with few if any side effects. I wouldn’t want the Chinese or Russian vaccines, I just trust western medicines more ... both appear to be safe and work well. Chinese vaccine is based on multiple spike protein platform : this means that it targets Covid-19 and all other harmful spike proteins that enters your body. Covid-19 mutations have a higher chance to stopped by this vaccine than RNA vaccines. The multiple spike protein is similar to annual flue vaccines. Annual flue vaccines result in maximum 67% efficiency and can be upgraded according to mutations. It’s absurd to promote higher effectiveness than 67% for all other vaccine platforms. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: I'm going to Kenya next month to escape the boring UK. Kenya pretty much zero covid and the same applies to neighbouring Tanzania which is a red list country because they don't bother testing for covid anymore. This is a joke right? Kenya had 528 positives today and the graph is on an uptrend. Tanzania, if you go there then forget trying to get back to the UK in a hurry as its banned all travellers from there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tominbkk Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, robblok said: I have no problem paying for this, let them make some profit it gets you in front of the line. I dont think 4000 bt is too much for this. Lots and lots of cheap charlies in the forum. I'm with you, get me a queue number! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said: Plenty of countries have not been "over run", in fact quite the opposite with minimal health policies, but that's down to the demographics of the countries. Places with high levels of obesity and overweight people is where the problem is. Not completely true. Countries with mandatory BCG (tuberculosis) vaccinations tend to have better Covid-19 statistics. French Guiana, with mandatory BCG vaccinations, has no Covid-19 intensive care patients and no fatalities. Former Eastern Germans have better Covid-19 stats than the former Western Germans for the simple reason that BCG vaccinations was not mandatory in the 70’s for the West Germans while the Eastern Germans continued the BCG vaccinations after the unification. German, Spanish, Dutch, French and Australian researchers are doing research if BCG vaccinations provide higher anti-inflammatory agents against covid-19. Not surprisingly you can see that countries with mandatory BCG vaccinations have better Covid-19 statistics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCG_vaccine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR2020 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Latest breaking news is Oxford/AZ works against the nasty Brazil variant, but Sinovac ones does not?? https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/health/1484467-exclusive-oxford-study-indicates-astrazeneca-effective-against-brazil-variant-source-says . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, robblok said: I have no problem paying for this, let them make some profit it gets you in front of the line. I dont think 4000 bt is too much for this. Good for you. Will it be the Chinese one? All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just now, dinsdale said: 6 hours ago, robblok said: I have no problem paying for this, let them make some profit it gets you in front of the line. I dont think 4000 bt is too much for this. Good for you. Will it be the Chinese one? All the best. As the government has purchased and is distributing the chinese vaccine. Hospitals will be buying and selling other vaccines. All the best in figuring that one out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Anyone not willing to pay $133 for a possible life saving vaccine must think their life is pretty worthless. Maybe that $133 will make you very sick. No deaths yet but it's only early. Maybe I value my life above a Chinese vaccination. You want the 'good' ones add a bit more. You can always wait a bit for the Thai one. That might be a bit cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Pneumonia jab at Red Cross in Bangkok is about 2500 ! ??????. What is a pneumonia jab? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, BritManToo said: Why can't the Thai hospitals buy it at the open market rate? Simple they've got to buy it from the Thai Government, who want to make money, and sell it to private hospitals at a cost that will to cover all the costs of the free Government Inoculations to the Thai population. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, RR2020 said: Latest breaking news is Oxford/AZ works against the nasty Brazil variant, but Sinovac ones does not?? https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/health/1484467-exclusive-oxford-study-indicates-astrazeneca-effective-against-brazil-variant-source-says . Quote from link: “In response to the Brazilian clinical trials, Sinovac Biotech has defended its vaccine. They said that the participants in its Phase III trial in Brazil – the largest one for the vaccine undertaken worldwide – were medical workers who tended to COVID-19 patients, arguing that they faced higher exposure to the highly infectious pathogen. "The vaccine's ability to protect medical workers in active outbreaks could significantly improve if they are administered between 21 and 28 days," said the company in a statement. Experts also agreed that the overall result is good enough considering almost all the trial participants in Brazil were high-risk front-liners, as reported in the Global Times.“ https://theaseanpost.com/article/chinas-sinovac-results-doubt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, phetphet said: I received a polling email from B'Grad over a week ago, asking if I would be interested in getting a COVID vaccination. I wonder if they will also issue a certificate of vaccination as proof for any potential future travel. For myself the certificate is as important as the vaccine, if not more so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, dcnx said: Considering it’s free everywhere else, it’s not the best deal out there. Best deal in Thailand and a helluva lot cheaper than flying back to Blighty for it, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Pneumonia jab at Red Cross in Bangkok is about 2500 ! Yellow fever at BHP is a little bit more, i think about 3K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, aussienam said: But in Thailand the clinic price for Lorazepam is 20THB each. But is that for a generic? What is the price at a pharmacy? Edited March 5, 2021 by PGSan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Yorkshire Tea said: How will they get home without vaccination? The vaccination is not a requirement to travel yet and won't be for a while yet methinks, it's likely ( at first ) going to enable people to by-pass quarantine procedures in certain countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, exparte said: This is all about Money and getting rich in the end. Private hospitals are business's so yes it's about making money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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