JackGats Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Dick Z said: The Chinese are not stupid, I assume Sinovac will work, as the principle of how it is made is the same as for other effective vaccines. But they don't show data and that is the reason why I would prefer one of the others, including the Russian which has been shown by objective sources to be effective. I heard a rumor that the Chinese don't show data on their vaccine not because they have no data, but because it got tested from day one on prison inmates in the PCR. So the Chinese vaccine might be the best-tested on humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, JohnHans said: Ah.. rich man. Really? At current exchange rates 4000 THB is less than £95. I would suggest that a retiree who cannot afford £95 has made a gross error in his/her retirement calculations. See also my comment (6 posts above) where I say "Of course, no Westerner living in or visiting Thailand should have an expectation of free health care anyway - should they?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrwhat Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I hope that comes with a government certified "Vaccine Passport" so I can resume traveling for work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overt2016 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 This is all getting a bit much!!! If we are to believe this is a pandemic it is in the interest of ALL countries to eliminate it. Surely that means vaccinating everyone. Government hospitals are more than capable of providing the services. So it should be mandatory that everyone get the vaccine free of charge. Anyone refusing should be packed to a un inhabitated island in Antartica or the Arctic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney42bb Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Free in The UK...Besides which it's cost is £3 a pop to knock it out. Cynical Thailand as usual... Money is all they care about.... Foreigners count for nothing with Zero rights,,,,,,,,while their own folk of little or no means, receive barely much else from their Peers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, overt2016 said: This is all getting a bit much!!! If we are to believe this is a pandemic it is in the interest of ALL countries to eliminate it. Surely that means vaccinating everyone. Government hospitals are more than capable of providing the services. So it should be mandatory that everyone get the vaccine free of charge. Anyone refusing should be packed to a un inhabitated island in Antartica or the Arctic. Vaccinations should never be compulsory, however, restricting access to flights, entry to countries, events etc may be conditional on being vaccinated IMO. You therefore retain your choice and everyone else their safety. Edited March 6, 2021 by VBF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmcleod Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Having the recommended two doses would therefore cost 4,000 baht or a little under 100 UK pounds or about $US 133. I guess that they will just double the price of the J&J vaccine since it is only a single dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 3:00 PM, MadMac said: You never need to wait long to see the greed popping up in this country. Big money to make easily. Good thing that such behavior is confined to The Kingdom. Hard to imagine what the world would be like if people all over were greedy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, forrwhat said: I hope that comes with a government certified "Vaccine Passport" so I can resume traveling for work! To what countries can you currently travel with a «government certified "Vaccine Passport"» 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Removed a post using non-English language and the replies to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonetrueaussie Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 3:22 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The way I look at it, you can wait until who knows when to get the (probably) Chinese vaccine via the TH government program.... Or, you can get the vaccine of your preference in the pretty immediate future by paying a bit of money... The way things are looking, I'll take the get sooner, have my own choice, pay option. I will let all you guys get the vaccine and see the side effects and then buy it in 6 months time for 300 thb ???? Assuming you guys don't develop any bad complications or side effects from the vaccine, in which case I will pass thanks ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyami Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Had 2 ops in bkk pattaya hosp over the last couple of years they were 100% successful. I will be arriving next wk all going well. Its totally <deleted> in ireland, strictist lock down in the world talk of slight opening in the summer mths and some more lockdown again in the next winter with a snail pace vac rollout I will gladly acept a vac in the same hosp even if it wasnt covered by my insurance. People who dont take the vaccine may find it difficult to travel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 8:15 AM, robblok said: I have no problem paying for this, let them make some profit it gets you in front of the line. I dont think 4000 bt is too much for this. Does it not bother you that vaccines becoming available for profit may delay vaccines going to poorer countries even further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maestro Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said: I will let all you guys get the vaccine and see the side effects and then buy it in 6 months time for 300 thb ???? Assuming you guys don't develop any bad complications or side effects from the vaccine, in which case I will pass thanks ???? That's very kind of you. It will shorten the queue of those waiting for the vaccination. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 No vaccine should be available on the open market until all those who can't afford to pay in every country has been vaccinated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaowma57 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 While you all criticise the Thai hospitals, government etc for all wanting to make a buck or two and you make all kinds of assertions about the efficacy of each vaccine you should remember that Pfizer and BioNTech, for example, could make $13bn from coronavirus vaccine (reported by The Guradian UK) that is equivalent to nearly $2 per person on the planet. Just remember that the vaccine is priceless yet zero percent effective to those people (particularly the aged and vulnerable) all around the world who can’t access or afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 hours ago, possum1931 said: Nothing wrong with any businesses making money, that's what it is all about, but there is such a thing as fairness, and there is not much of that. I totally agree, that was my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, KhaoYai said: No vaccine should be available on the open market until all those who can't afford to pay in every country has been vaccinated. In a way, it is already an open market, with vaccine manufacturers prioritising shipments to the highest bidders. AstraZeneca, for example, is supplying the EU with only a fraction of the contracted quantities and was caught shipping the vaccine instead to Australia, with which it made later contracts at a higher price. https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=CEs&ei=J1ZDYK6yFIf8kwXispLwAg&q=italy+stops+vaccine+shipment+to+Australia&oq=italy+stops+vaccine+shipment+to+Australia&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAxQAFgAYMvUKGgAcAB4AIABS4gBS5IBATGYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwju4ebKt5vvAhUH_qQKHWKZBC4Q4dUDCAw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Greedy selfish bar stewards. if there was ever one health matter that needed free access for all it would be this vaccine.., Im all for capitalism but some things should be exempt in a humane society https://www.google.co.th/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-56117120 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xtrnuno41 Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 9:37 AM, AlexRich said: I would pay to get the vaccine of my choice. I believe the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is only one shot? But I’d probably go for Pfizer as it’s been around longer and appears to be very effective with few if any side effects. I wouldn’t want the Chinese or Russian vaccines, I just trust western medicines more ... both appear to be safe and work well. Sputnik is now entering Europe, it has the same high percentage protection as Pfizer or Moderna. I wouldnt know why i shouldnt take this. After all it is about money and Americans do anything for a buck. You think, they are worried about you? Nope, only worried about money, nothing else. Medicines nowadays are mostly made in China , India and are just imported by the many countries. You "ll have them and you dont even know where they are coming from. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, theonetrueaussie said: I will let all you guys get the vaccine and see the side effects and then buy it in 6 months time for 300 thb ???? Assuming you guys don't develop any bad complications or side effects from the vaccine, in which case I will pass thanks ???? I had my first jab 29th Dec and the second one on the 17th Jan. Both Pfizer in Saudi. Apart from a sore arm on the second day of each jab, so good so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, mrbojangles said: I had my first jab 29th Dec and the second one on the 17th Jan. Both Pfizer in Saudi. Apart from a sore arm on the second day of each jab, so good so far. Wow, they're even giving it to the infidels... I assume you're a resident there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, HashBrownHarry said: Wow, they're even giving it to the infidels... I assume you're a resident there? Yeah, they are giving it free of charge to everyone. Citizens and expats. I'm a resident at the moment but retiring to Thailand in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, mrbojangles said: Yeah, they are giving it free of charge to everyone. Citizens and expats. I'm a resident at the moment but retiring to Thailand in the next few weeks. Excellent - enjoy your retirement. SA is not the best place to work but you reap the rewards - good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, KhaoYai said: Does it not bother you that vaccines becoming available for profit may delay vaccines going to poorer countries even further? No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, KhaoYai said: No vaccine should be available on the open market until all those who can't afford to pay in every country has been vaccinated. It's not a perfect world we live in. Money number one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: Excellent - enjoy your retirement. SA is not the best place to work but you reap the rewards - good luck. Been here 13 years. The wife and daughter only left 6 months ago. Daughter had great schooling. I can't complain at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Vincent Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Embarrassing the sooner this government removed the easier the people will sleep,. Governments around the world paying around 15 dollars about £12 Sterling yet Thailand want to charge 2,000 baht for moderna vaccines ‘ which should be free x2 vaccines 4,000 baht which costs around £25 to administer yet Thailand think it’s a money making scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve Vincent said: Embarrassing the sooner this government removed the easier the people will sleep,. Governments around the world paying around 15 dollars about £12 Sterling yet Thailand want to charge 2,000 baht for moderna vaccines ‘ which should be free x2 vaccines 4,000 baht which costs around £25 to administer yet Thailand think it’s a money making scheme. Thailand is NOT charging any money for the jabs. You just have to wait your turn. Just like back home. The option presented here is for you to pay a small amount to get the jab. Can't understand what's wrong with that. Sign me up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said: The option presented here is for you to pay a small amount to get the jab. Can't understand what's wrong with that What's wrong with that is that ability to pay determines your elgibility to good health - that can never be right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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