rooster59 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 22 Karen villagers remanded in custody after eviction from Kaeng Krachan national park Photo from Facebook พชร คำชำนาญ Twenty-two ethnic Karen villagers were remanded in custody at the Phetchaburi provincial prison after they and others were rounded up by park officials inside the Kaeng Krachan national park, for allegedly encroaching on forest land regarded as a watershed area for the Phetchaburi River. Altogether 89 Karen were evicted from the land, called Jai Paendin, by park officials. Mr. Prakit Wongsriwattanakul, deputy director-general of the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation, said today that some of the alleged encroachers are villagers from Ban Bang Kloy, also in the national park. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/22-karen-villagers-remanded-in-custody-after-eviction-from-kaeng-krachan-national-park/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-03-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: https://www.thephuketnews.com/mp-pareena-guilty-of-ethics-breach-78955.php And yet, not a day in jail for this pillar of society. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 They should consider themselves lucky they weren't incinerated in a barrel and tossed in the river like Billy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomchaiCNX Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Where is the UN? They have an office in BKK with a human rights department. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Another petty official enjoying his power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Reading the article they tolerate the karen living in the national park, but do not tolerate them destroying new areas. Slash and burn of what remains of the national forests should never be permitted in the 21st century by anyone no matter how rich or how poor they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomchaiCNX Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 hours ago, canopy said: Reading the article they tolerate the karen living in the national park, but do not tolerate them destroying new areas. Slash and burn of what remains of the national forests should never be permitted in the 21st century by anyone no matter how rich or how poor they are. Rotation is not slash and burn, but try to explain that to a government official with probably two working brain cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, SomchaiCNX said: Rotation is not slash and burn This is not rotation. Karen are flocking to new areas of the forest and carving out new lands to farm because they feel it is their god given right to take whatever they please. The forests need protection from everyone no matter their walk of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomchaiCNX Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 22 hours ago, canopy said: This is not rotation. Karen are flocking to new areas of the forest and carving out new lands to farm because they feel it is their god given right to take whatever they please. The forests need protection from everyone no matter their walk of life. You know the difference I hope. Karens can live very well in harmony with the forest, they can take care of it much better than the forestry department, that is more commercial orientated. Your last sentence is spot on, look what is happening in the Amazon and Indonesia also over there indigenous people suffer because of the greed of the authorities who allow destruction by big companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, SomchaiCNX said: Karens can live very well in harmony with the forest Having lived among several types of hilltribes for over a decade in Thailand I cannot in good conscious support this statement. Don't get me wrong they are nice people and I have friends among them. But hilltribes hunt, burn, and destroy every bit of wildlife they can get their hands on and their farming practices are as chemical and poison laden as anyone else's. Count Thai's here too, but just no poor people go into the forest to appreciate the beauty, they always go to take and destroy and I see it every day. There is no concept of conservation. They will kill the last thing and when it's gone, they won't care. They light careless fires that ravage untold forests and pollutes the sky and no one cares. They aren't doing any of this because they are starving to death. They are just poor people taking land, game, just anything they can because it's there. It was a cold dose of reality that in real life hill tribes aren't the meek people caring for the earth I was taught. Nothing is further from the truth I am afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomchaiCNX Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 8 hours ago, canopy said: Having lived among several types of hilltribes for over a decade in Thailand I cannot in good conscious support this statement. Don't get me wrong they are nice people and I have friends among them. But hilltribes hunt, burn, and destroy every bit of wildlife they can get their hands on and their farming practices are as chemical and poison laden as anyone else's. Count Thai's here too, but just no poor people go into the forest to appreciate the beauty, they always go to take and destroy and I see it every day. There is no concept of conservation. They will kill the last thing and when it's gone, they won't care. They light careless fires that ravage untold forests and pollutes the sky and no one cares. They aren't doing any of this because they are starving to death. They are just poor people taking land, game, just anything they can because it's there. It was a cold dose of reality that in real life hill tribes aren't the meek people caring for the earth I was taught. Nothing is further from the truth I am afraid. Yes you are correct, they have changed a lot over the last 30 or so years, mostly because the Thai government officials forced them to be more Thai and introduced them to a lot of <deleted> and harmful chemicals. I remember that until a couple years ago even the Royal project had mainly chemical based agriculture. Took years to switch back to a more organic approach. Many Karens around Mae Sariang, Sob Moei and Mae Sam Laeb, I lived in that area 25+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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