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Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application

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way to go bro, time consuming but you did and showed it can be done....yet many, who consider this just continue to give the "what if"

 

cheers mate, enjoy the holidays.

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I'm not sure that the part about holding on to your job is true - in my case I needed to show a work permit only when I applied and when I was interviewed at the IM. I actually held on to a job I hated right up until my citizenship was granted, but at no time after the IM did they ever ask to see my work permit again.

 

My application took a little under three years, but no mechanism to bribe the IM to hurry the process was ever revealed to me, so your inference that applications approved in 3-4 years were because of bribery is untrue. Even Special Branch claimed to have no idea what went on at the IM, and that they had no power to influence anything there.

 

Cheers

There is no insinuation that if you got in 3 or 4 years it's an automatic "its bribery".

There are how ever 2 observations

1. I did clearly see coaches in the MOI waiting room walking around with a very superior / aloof disposition - am sure they were not mere Ajarn's and I doubt they were just good Samaritans. Without pointing fingers, I am familiar with the way this establishment carries itself

Did try to say hi to one to sus him out, but I was obviously just a mere mortal. With his students he was jolly and cheering them on

2. Also strange that people applying after me got citz first. totally not concerned - Just an observation

I had no requests for further info, so that's not the reason for difference

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7 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

Cheers

There is no insinuation that if you got in 3 or 4 years it's an automatic "its bribery".

There are how ever 2 observations

1. I did clearly see coaches in the MOI waiting room walking around with a very superior / aloof disposition - am sure they were not mere Ajarn's and I doubt they were just good Samaritans. Without pointing fingers, I am familiar with the way this establishment carries itself

Did try to say hi to one to sus him out, but I was obviously just a mere mortal. With his students he was jolly and cheering them on

2. Also strange that people applying after me got citz first. totally not concerned - Just an observation

I had no requests for further info, so that's not the reason for difference

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Seven years is certainly a long time - most people who have applied since I started this thread, as well as people I know personally, seem to average three or four years. Perhaps your application got stuck in the system somewhere? 

 

As I've said, there was certainly nobody in the IM made available to help me, or any of my friends who have applied since - the IM, where the decisions are made, remains inscrutable to the SB throughout.

 

The only coaching I had was from the officer who received my application at SB - at that time very few farangs were applying and he was rather curious and amused. All he could really do was give me advice on what to do and when. He gave me his cell phone number, and talked me through the whole process, but seemed powerless to influence the outcome at the IM. I rewarded him with the odd bottle of scotch here and there.

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Ya dbrenn - the thought passed my mind. At the time I was working for a Yellow leaning company when reds were in power. Would not surprise me if I was thrown on the bottom of the heap. Most probable cause in my mind cause if look at all the criteria, I aced everything- especially yearly tax contributions


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1 hour ago, skippybangkok said:

Ya dbrenn - the thought passed my mind. At the time I was working for a Yellow leaning company when reds were in power. Would not surprise me if I was thrown on the bottom of the heap. Most probable cause in my mind cause if look at all the criteria, I aced everything- especially yearly tax contributions


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That's not a reasonable presumption at all. 

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7 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

Ya dbrenn - the thought passed my mind. At the time I was working for a Yellow leaning company when reds were in power. Would not surprise me if I was thrown on the bottom of the heap. Most probable cause in my mind cause if look at all the criteria, I aced everything- especially yearly tax contributions


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It may have been something simple like an administrative error, a misplaced document, or something like that. 

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27 minutes ago, skippybangkok said:

 


Yep - can't rule it out


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I can understand why you suspected political interference though - I remember thinking that my application was toast after the military coup of 2006 - Kongsak Wantana, the Interior Minister who had just approved my application was one of Thaksin's lot. In the end it didn't make any difference nor did it seem to delay my approval. 

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On 31/12/2016 at 3:27 AM, skippybangkok said:

Oh.... forgot to mention I met a very respectable guy who was offered fast track - but declined

Could have been a scam, or the real thing


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There are so many lobbyists lawyers and influence peddlers in Thailand, claiming to know one or another general or politician. They ask for large sums of money to expedite decisions.

 

Most are just conmen, who do not deliver an outcome any faster than going through the normal channels would have done. 

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There are so many lobbyists lawyers and influence peddlers in Thailand, claiming to know one or another general or politician. They ask for large sums of money to expedite decisions.
 
Most are just conmen, who do not deliver an outcome any faster than going through the normal channels would have done. 

Yaaa


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I previously tried to cancel my tax ID at the local tax office, but told this was not possible and that I would have to use my tax ID when filing a tax return, not my Thai citizen ID number like other Thais. So today I tried to re-register on the Revenue Department's e-filing web page using my ID card. No problems were encountered at all. In fact, the two numbers are already linked, and when I went to enter a new password, the suggestion it gave me was my former Tax ID number.

 

This just goes to show that you can't trust your local tax office no matter how adamant they are about not being able to do something.    

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