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Hi everyone and thanks for a great thread.

 

I think I qualify to get Thai citizenship and am currently looking at the documents required to apply.

 

Looking at

1.                 1.  Alien registration book – what I this?

2.                2.  Certificate of residence – is my yellow book OK for this?

      15. ID card of witnesses -  do they need to write a letter to attest my good conduct?

      16. Affidavit confirming age of majority -  does the British embassy provide this?

      17. Affidavit of my intention to renounce my current nationality – is this still required?

     

Quite excited about the whole process and hope to get some help from those with experience.

 

Thanks a lot.

 

ThaiCitizen

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On 1/11/2017 at 0:28 PM, ThaiCitizen said:

Looking at

 

1.                 1.  Alien registration book – what I this?

 

2.                2.  Certificate of residence – is my yellow book OK for this?

 

      15. ID card of witnesses -  do they need to write a letter to attest my good conduct?

 

      16. Affidavit confirming age of majority -  does the British embassy provide this?

 

      17. Affidavit of my intention to renounce my current nationality – is this still required?

1/2 Thai is required if you have permanent residency.

15/16/17 I think those are explained here clearly.  Guidelines and documents required for application for Thai citizenship by naturalization 

Affidavit means you do a statement witnessed by the embassy.

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

1/2 Thai is required if you have permanent residency.

15/16/17 I think those are explained here clearly.  Guidelines and documents required for application for Thai citizenship by naturalization 

Affidavit means you do a statement witnessed by the embassy.

Thanks Ubonjoe for your reply.

1 and 2  - Did you mean “These” are required? A bit confused as to what Thai is required means.

I don’t have PR, I’m going the way of being married to a Thai, which I have for 16 years.

So I don’t need 1 and 2 – is this what you are saying?

 

15.16.17  - the link you gave don’t work.

 

16/17. OK got it, that’s no problem.

Does anyone know if the British embassy has these documents already or do I have to write them up myself?

 

I went to the Santibaan(Special Branch) where they gave me a list of documents.

 

15. Two witnesses are required to attest my good conduct. Maybe someone who has gone through this process can tell me if these people have to come with me when applying or just write a letter.

 

Thanks in advance.

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37 minutes ago, ThaiCitizen said:

So I don’t need 1 and 2 – is this what you are saying?

 

Yes those are only required if you have permanent residence.

This should work. Guidelines_for_Application_for_Naturalization_14__Oct_2009_EN.pdf

43 minutes ago, ThaiCitizen said:

Does anyone know if the British embassy has these documents already or do I have to write them up myself?

You will have to write it yourself.

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On 1/15/2017 at 9:15 AM, skippybangkok said:

Update - already travelled over seas forgetting to return the red and white book. Obviously not an issue - will get around to it one day


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Interesting. I assumed that might cause an issue at Immigration, similar to others who enter on one passport and try to leave on another. 

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On 1/13/2017 at 10:33 AM, ThaiCitizen said:

Thanks Ubonjoe for your reply.

 

1 and 2  - Did you mean “These” are required? A bit confused as to what Thai is required means.

 

I don’t have PR, I’m going the way of being married to a Thai, which I have for 16 years.

 

So I don’t need 1 and 2 – is this what you are saying?

 

 

 

15.16.17  - the link you gave don’t work.

 

 

 

16/17. OK got it, that’s no problem.

 

Does anyone know if the British embassy has these documents already or do I have to write them up myself?

 

 

 

I went to the Santibaan(Special Branch) where they gave me a list of documents.

 

 

 

15. Two witnesses are required to attest my good conduct. Maybe someone who has gone through this process can tell me if these people have to come with me when applying or just write a letter.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

1 and 2 are only required, if you have them (by virtue of having permanent residence).  Thus in your case they are not required.

 

I went to the trouble of getting the document from the UK Embassy affirming that at my advanced age (causing some mirth from the vice-consul) I had already reached the age of majority in my country.  Got it translated and then whent through the PITA of getting notarised by the MoFA at CW. Only to be told that it was only required from certain nationalities (why?) and the UK was not one of them.  I would recommend you check with SB whether this is still not required from Brits. I wish I had. 

 

17 is still required AFAIK and, no, the embassies have no standard format for this but they do have blank forms for you.  You make a brief declaration in writing on their blank form and they type it up and witness your signature on it.  Then you translate it and MoFA it.  SB may have some English wording for you as a guideline, if you ask them.  When I did it, I asked them for the wording and they reversed the question and asked me for some wording which they later passed on to others (which I took as a compliment) but that was a few years ago now.  I think any sensible wording will do but better check with them what is current practice, as things change.

 

SB does a proforma interview with your witnesses.  Sometimes they are asked to come to the office and sometimes just to sign proforma interview write-ups post facto, depending on your case officer and the current regime at SB.  Bear in mind when inviting people to be witnesses that any Thais who have known you for the requisite period of time will do.  Contrary to popular belief, you don't need to find the biggest pu yai possible to do this and, if you do, it won't speed up your application, unless your pu yai are also able and willing to intervene decisively on your behalf (under the current govt there is hardly any need for that anyway).  Staff, co-workers or anyone who appears vaguely respectable to vouch for you will do perfectly well.  Do bear in mind that your witnesses will be asked to disclose their salaries on the form they will have to hand back to you.  This mitigates firmly against choosing pu yai in my opinion.

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On 31/12/2016 at 9:59 PM, skippybangkok said:

Ya dbrenn - the thought passed my mind. At the time I was working for a Yellow leaning company when reds were in power. Would not surprise me if I was thrown on the bottom of the heap. Most probable cause in my mind cause if look at all the criteria, I aced everything- especially yearly tax contributions


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That's not a reasonable presumption at all. 

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17 hours ago, Arkady said:

 

 

1 and 2 are only required, if you have them (by virtue of having permanent residence).  Thus in your case they are not required.

 

I went to the trouble of getting the document from the UK Embassy affirming that at my advanced age (causing some mirth from the vice-consul) I had already reached the age of majority in my country.  Got it translated and then whent through the PITA of getting notarised by the MoFA at CW. Only to be told that it was only required from certain nationalities (why?) and the UK was not one of them.  I would recommend you check with SB whether this is still not required from Brits. I wish I had. 

 

17 is still required AFAIK and, no, the embassies have no standard format for this but they do have blank forms for you.  You make a brief declaration in writing on their blank form and they type it up and witness your signature on it.  Then you translate it and MoFA it.  SB may have some English wording for you as a guideline, if you ask them.  When I did it, I asked them for the wording and they reversed the question and asked me for some wording which they later passed on to others (which I took as a compliment) but that was a few years ago now.  I think any sensible wording will do but better check with them what is current practice, as things change.

 

SB does a proforma interview with your witnesses.  Sometimes they are asked to come to the office and sometimes just to sign proforma interview write-ups post facto, depending on your case officer and the current regime at SB.  Bear in mind when inviting people to be witnesses that any T8hais who have known you for the requisite period of time will do.  Contrary to popular belief, you don't need to find the biggest pu yai possible to do this and, if you do, it won't speed up your application, unless your pu yai are also able and willing to intervene decisively on your behalf (under the current govt there is hardly any need for that anyway).  Staff, co-workers or anyone who appears vaguely respectable to vouch for you will do perfectly well.  Do bear in mind that your witnesses will be asked to disclose their salaries on the form they will have to hand back to you.  This mitigates firmly against choosing pu yai in my opinion.

I don't understand your 17. 

Perhaps they were just indulging your request to sign a form to renounce your citizenship. 

I was never asked to write any such letter and I don't know of any other person that did this. 

Perhaps there is no form, because it is not a requirement to renounce your citizenship on a form. 

As for witnesses, my witnesses did not need to declare their salary. They only needed to send their id card copy and a letter to say how long they knew us. There was no interview. 

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Congratulations I doubt there is anything harder to do in thailand  the process may take a long time due to they issue so few people citizenship. I hear it is 150 people a year

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5 hours ago, USPatriot said:

Congratulations I doubt there is anything harder to do in thailand  the process may take a long time due to they issue so few people citizenship. I hear it is 150 people a year

 

I heard it's a hundred per year. 

That's per nationality. 

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18 hours ago, USPatriot said:

Congratulations I doubt there is anything harder to do in thailand  the process may take a long time due to they issue so few people citizenship. I hear it is 150 people a year

The number issued per year depends upon how many completed the process. They announced several hundred last year.

13 hours ago, greenchair said:

 

I heard it's a hundred per year. 

That's per nationality. 

There is no limit per country for citizenship. That is for permanent residency.

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