Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application

[cmsally 6,023]

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I thought everyone had to do the oath.

 

So did I, I think I will just wait and see on that. But the head police guy who did everything said no. Very confusing.

[echrist 76]

30 minutes ago, cmsally said:

So did I, I think I will just wait and see on that. But the head police guy who did everything said no. Very confusing.

Maybe it's incorrect, but I heard women did not have to take the oath since they are considered as adopting their husband's citizenship instead of changing their citizenship. 

[cmsally 6,023]

21 minutes ago, echrist said:

Maybe it's incorrect, but I heard women did not have to take the oath since they are considered as adopting their husband's citizenship instead of changing their citizenship. 

That was the conclusion I reached too. Will have to see if it is true.

[samran 11,862]

21 minutes ago, echrist said:

Maybe it's incorrect, but I heard women did not have to take the oath since they are considered as adopting their husband's citizenship instead of changing their citizenship. 

That’s correct. My wife didn’t have to take the oath. Once it was announced  in the RG the you wait a few weeks for SB to basically give you an offical letter with the RG announcement printed as an addendum. You then take that to the district office and get the house registration and ID card sorted. 

[samran 11,862]

On 11/16/2019 at 11:50 AM, Big Guns said:

Linking in to the social security topic I've been a Thai citizen for 2 years now but as a teacher a an international school I'm excluded from social security as the government removed private & international schools from the social security scheme. The only exception is if the school volunarily joins. Is there any way I personally can opt in?

It’s a good topic. 
 

I run my own business and as a director I’m not eligible. I’m thinking of putting myself down as an employee of a friends company and get into the SS system that way. 
 

I’ll essentially pay it. His company can invoice mine, and then his company pays me a salary with SS deductions made. Do this for 6 months or a year whatever the minimum time needed is, ‘quit’ the job and then continue to make voluntary contributions.

 

We have good private insurance and always intend to do so, but having the SS as a back up isn’t a bad thing.

[Neeranam 6,634]

12 minutes ago, samran said:

I’ll essentially pay it. His company can invoice mine, and then his company pays me a salary with SS deductions made. Do this for 6 months or a year whatever the minimum time needed is, ‘quit’ the job and then continue to make voluntary contributions.

Don't quote me, but I heard it was 15 months you must work.

[Neeranam 6,634]

44 minutes ago, echrist said:

Maybe it's incorrect, but I heard women did not have to take the oath since they are considered as adopting their husband's citizenship instead of changing their citizenship. 

So much for sexual equality!

[Neeranam 6,634]

Coincidentally,  I took my daugter to a local hospital after she got bitten by a dog. 

She didnt have any ID and was charged 30 baht. She looks 18+. I tried to intervene by showing my Social Security card, but was basically ignored, as usual.

[cmsally 6,023]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Don't quote me, but I heard it was 15 months you must work.

It used to be 13 months contributions. A lot of people used to get caught out as they pulled out at 12 months!!

[GarryP 5,014]

11 minutes ago, cmsally said:

It used to be 13 months contributions. A lot of people used to get caught out as they pulled out at 12 months!!

Section 39. Any person who is an insured person under section 33, has paid contribution for a period of not less than twelve months and, subsequently ceases to be insured person in pursuance of section 38(2)*, if such person wishes to continually be insured person, he or she shall, within six months from the date of his or her termination to be insured person, notify his or her statement to the Office according to the regulations prescribed by the Secretary – General.

 

*38 (2) cessation of being an employee.

 

Whatever you do, always check the the Social Security Office first as new subordinate regulations are issued from time to time. 

[cmsally 6,023]

3 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Section 39. Any person who is an insured person under section 33, has paid contribution for a period of not less than twelve months and, subsequently ceases to be insured person in pursuance of section 38(2)*, if such person wishes to continually be insured person, he or she shall, within six months from the date of his or her termination to be insured person, notify his or her statement to the Office according to the regulations prescribed by the Secretary – General.

 

*38 (2) cessation of being an employee.

 

Whatever you do, always check the the Social Security Office first as new subordinate regulations are issued from time to time. 

I remember an American friend being rejected and told she needed 13 months instead of the 12 months paid for on her year contract!

[GarryP 5,014]

1 minute ago, cmsally said:

I remember an American friend being rejected and told she needed 13 months instead of the 12 months paid for on her year contract!

I don't doubt you at all. Hence, I said to always check with SSO first. You also need to stand your ground in instances such as this as sometimes even some officers are not up to date or just don't know.

 

In my case it was Immigration. Two officers on reception at Chaengwattana told me that I was in Thailand illegally as my extension based on marriage immediately expired upon the death of my wife. I was very shaken by that, but in my heart I knew my visa remained in force up to the next extension date ( I subsequently extended based on employment). What made it even more frightening was that my citizenship application was still under consideration and it was touch and go whether I still qualified.     

[Neeranam 6,634]

28 minutes ago, GarryP said:

if such person wishes to continually be insured person, he or she shall, within six months from the date of his or her termination to be insured person, notify his or her statement to the Office according to the regulations prescribed

Good news, I heard I has to apply 1 month  after leaving my job. They told me Iast week that I have to wait until I get the lump sum payment, which could take a month, before applying for continuation of insurance.

[Medinitas 3]

Hi all,

 

For some time, being able to apply for Thai residence is an objective. The problem is that I cannot fulfill the salary requirement. Also, the company where I am working will not help me with the documents. The only thing I can think of is to open a company in my wife's name and that she hire me with a salary higher than 40,000B. Do you know if it is possible? Could I get a work permit with a Non O Marriage Visa in my wife's company with a job that a foreigner is qualified to work? Do you think this may be a good idea? Do you have a better idea? Could I have problems in the application when they see that I am working in my wife's company?

 

Thank you very much.

[yankee99 1,426]

2 minutes ago, Medinitas said:

Hi all,

 

For some time, being able to apply for Thai residence is an objective. The problem is that I cannot fulfill the salary requirement. Also, the company where I am working will not help me with the documents. The only thing I can think of is to open a company in my wife's name and that she hire me with a salary higher than 40,000B. Do you know if it is possible? Could I get a work permit with a Non O Marriage Visa in my wife's company with a job that a foreigner is qualified to work? Do you think this may be a good idea? Do you have a better idea? Could I have problems in the application when they see that I am working in my wife's company?

 

Thank you very much.

You can definitely apply that way. This will need to be a real company filling taxes and doing real business. 

 

SB said they're going to visit my wife's company but never did.