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No this time they all keep quite.

can't reach them.

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today i called MOi and ask for updates,

officer said my name/file is already in the King office for signature, but she said don't know how long it will take back to SBP , but it took time from 6 month to 1 year.

027917332
if anyone like to know can call this number MOI.

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On 5/19/2020 at 10:13 AM, david143 said:

today i called MOi and ask for updates,

officer said my name/file is already in the King office for signature, but she said don't know how long it will take back to SBP , but it took time from 6 month to 1 year.

027917332
if anyone like to know can call this number MOI.

I think you should be called for the oath in August or September. but you might be pleasantly surprised 🙂 

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On 5/18/2020 at 4:04 PM, cmsally said:

House registration and ID card all successfully achieved. Now the only thing left is to cancel my Thai visa in my foreign passport. Bet that will cause some confusion !!! Can't wait! :wacko:

Congratulations. Good luck at immigration! 

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On 5/18/2020 at 4:24 PM, GabbaGabbaHey said:

I'd first assume you can leave it like this until it expires, after all you will no longer use the foreign passport in Thailand right? but maybe from an immigration point of view something opened has to be closed... that would make sense to me. The good thing is: this will be the last time you will ever have to deal with immigration. Good luck.

This has probably been discussed before but isn't it illegal to use your passport with the visa in Thailand after gaining Thai citizenship? 

 

Could they give you an overstay fine(as a Thai) if you let it expire? How would they find out if you never use it? 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

This has probably been discussed before but isn't it illegal to use your passport with the visa in Thailand after gaining Thai citizenship? 

 

Could they give you an overstay fine(as a Thai) if you let it expire? How would they find out if you never use it? 

 

 

 

I was told by the SB officer that handled my case from the beginning , that if I didn't cancel my visa , my foreign passport details would go on some sort of blacklist.

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9 hours ago, cmsally said:

I was told by the SB officer that handled my case from the beginning , that if I didn't cancel my visa , my foreign passport details would go on some sort of blacklist.

I think that is probably the case.  One of my children was born overseas and entered Thailand on a foreign passport.  While in Thailand, we got a Thai passport for the child, but when we exited, it was technically an overstay.  Immigration actually wrote in the foreign passport under the exit stamp that because she was less than 15 years old, it was ok that she overstayed.  They didn't stamp the exit in the Thai passport. Then, on arrival back in Thailand, In the Thai passport was handwritten that she exited Thailand on a foreign passport.  The assumption at immigration is that there is always an exit (triangle stamp) as a Thai before there is an entrance (rectangle stamp) as a Thai.  If you exit as a foreigner and enter as a Thai, this will undoubtedly raise flags if you go through a people desk.  I'm not sure if there are any flags raised if you go through the automatic channels.  

 

I have thought about this situation many times, and have just concluded that it would be best just to spend an extra half day at immigration getting the visa cancelled.  I'm a little concerned about the whole pile of documents you have to bring and the letter that you apparently have to write attesting to the fact that you are now a Thai, as I am always a fan of limiting the paper trail in the conversion from a foreigner to a Thai. But in the end, after all of the anguish in waiting, and all of the hoops I have had to jump through, what's one more hoop at the end of the process? Fortunately, I am friends with the immigration folk in my province, and actually look forward to saying one last farewell 😀 

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15 hours ago, khongaeng said:

One of my children was born overseas and entered Thailand on a foreign passport.  While in Thailand, we got a Thai passport for the child, but when we exited, it was technically an overstay.  Immigration actually wrote in the foreign passport under the exit stamp that because she was less than 15 years old, it was ok that she overstayed. 

I'm just curious why you decided to use her Foreign passport to exit (knowing the technical overstay) instead of her Thai passport, was it something you didn't think about?

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15 hours ago, khongaeng said:

The assumption at immigration is that there is always an exit (triangle stamp) as a Thai before there is an entrance (rectangle stamp) as a Thai.  If you exit as a foreigner and enter as a Thai, this will undoubtedly raise flags if you go through a people desk.  I'm not sure if there are any flags raised if you go through the automatic channels.  

On getting Thai citizen, if you exit as a Thai, they wouldn't ask for your entry as a foreigner, or be able to link the two passports, would they? 

You could, in fact, burn your old passport as a party piece on getting your Thai passport. 

 

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55 minutes ago, GabbaGabbaHey said:

I'm just curious why you decided to use her Foreign passport to exit (knowing the technical overstay) instead of her Thai passport, was it something you didn't think about?

At the time, I was concerned that if she didn't close the loop by exiting on her foreign passport, that there would be a perpetual overstay linked to her foreign nationality.  Because she was a child, she wouldn't be penalized for an overstay anyway (as far as I know only 18 and older have to pay the overstay penalty).  She probably would never need to enter Thailand (nor should she ever) using her foreign passport, but just in case, I wanted to clear everything up when she was a child.  Now she enters and exits Thailand like any other Thai person and her new passport of course shows no evidence of this previous mistake.  

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31 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

On getting Thai citizen, if you exit as a Thai, they wouldn't ask for your entry as a foreigner, or be able to link the two passports, would they? 

You could, in fact, burn your old passport as a party piece on getting your Thai passport. 

 

Historically, yes that would most likely be the case that the passports would not be linked.  I know someone who while waiting the 30 days of review after submitting for the 1 year marriage visa extension, exited Thailand using one passport and came back and exited another time on another passport (dual national) and then finally re-entered on his first passport (2 trips outside the country in 30 days) in order to avoid paying an extra 1000 baht for a re-entry permit, and there was not any issue.

 

However, nowadays with the fingerprinting, I do not think this is possible anymore, and if you have flown in and out of Thailand anytime in the past year, they have a record of your "foreign" fingerprints.  I'm not sure if the system would flag you at the automatic gates or not, but at the minimum there is definitely evidence in the Immigration system that links your two identities.

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Today 21st May 2020, i submitted to SB, all the required documents for naturalisation as a Thai citizen. I was told to come back for an interview and written test with the same police department on Tuesday 26th May and i have to practice writing my name in thai script for the test. Any advise on what to expect at this interview will be greatly appreciated. I was also told that the next step after the Tuesday interview with SB is another interview with the NIA (National Intelligence Agency). What is that for? 

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14 hours ago, saakura said:

Today 21st May 2020, i submitted to SB, all the required documents for naturalisation as a Thai citizen. I was told to come back for an interview and written test with the same police department on Tuesday 26th May and i have to practice writing my name in thai script for the test. Any advise on what to expect at this interview will be greatly appreciated. I was also told that the next step after the Tuesday interview with SB is another interview with the NIA (National Intelligence Agency). What is that for? 

NIA interview is 2 officers will ask same questions and see original documents just like WP, Visa, Residence Book, actually they try to match statement of Candidate and his wife, how you met blah blah blah.
but you guys will sit on different chairs about 3 meter space, nothing to worry anything , but i heard in Feb my friend gave NIA interview and now they Note down every word in Computer.
I gave NIA interview on 19 May 2018 SUNDAY morning 9:00 AM and it was only 2 min i set time on my mobile. there was no computer ,they  just saw all the original documents, ask some personal question from wife , kid and off course from me. Total time spend 2 min and 45 seconds, take a family photo and bye bye . this was my Experience , *** Others May Vary***.
SB interview is general questions, personal how you met WHY YOU WANT TO BECOME THAI.
Test i don't know ,i don't gave any written Test for name or anything, i deal all process in Thai 🙂 .*** Others May Vary***.
 

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