webfact Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 The manager of two pubs, in Bangkok’s Thonglor area, which were blamed as the source of the current Thonglor COVID-19 cluster, has been sentenced to two months in prison, without suspension. Pol Maj-Gen Sophon Sarapat, commander of the 5th division of Metropolitan Police Bureau, said today (Sunday) that the manager of the Krystal Club and Emerald pub was arraigned before the Bangkok South District Court on Friday, for allegedly violating the Entertainment Venue Act and the Emergency Decree. He said that the two nightspots may face closure for up to five years. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/manager-of-two-thonglor-pubs-sentenced-to-two-months-in-prison/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-04-12 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) I guess they will go after the owners who ordered the managers to do whatever it is that they did? ???????????????? Edit: Seriously, who owns these clubs? Edited April 11, 2021 by ukrules 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstevens Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, webfact said: He said that the two nightspots may face closure for up to five years. That is what happened to Insanity on Sukhumvit 11 which received a 5 year closure order. Insanity largely had a farang customer base. I wonder if a 5 year closure order will be made to a bar with more of a local customer base? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 They are merely scapegoats for the real people who should go to jail and for even longer periods, having said that, if indeed they operated the bars and allow patrons in when they shouldn't... oh well... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: has been sentenced to two months in prison, without suspension. Actually I think that's the wrong sentence - better that anyone found with the virus who attended the club is put in hotel quarantine at the pub manager's expense. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, mstevens said: That is what happened to Insanity on Sukhumvit 11 which received a 5 year closure order. Insanity largely had a farang customer base. I wonder if a 5 year closure order will be made to a bar with more of a local customer base? May is not will. Given the people that frequent these places doubt it will be too long until they open up under another name even if they are closed down. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wordchild Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 Chuwit is certainly making a fair amount of noise about this in the Thai media. follow the money and find out who was behind Krystal and Emerald, he has posted, it looks like he has a pretty good idea himself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crusader Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 This is a start, I suppose, but it would be more appropriate if all managers / owners who did not follow the proper procedures were also locked-up. That would send out a message. It would be a bit unfortunate though if they followed all the set procedures...temperature check, social distancing, hand washing, disinfecting tables and chairs when customers left - but I doubt very much that that was done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Pol Maj-Gen Sophon Sarapat, commander of the 5th division of Metropolitan Police Bureau, said today (Sunday) that the manager of the Krystal Club and Emerald pub was arraigned before the Bangkok South District Court on Friday, for allegedly violating the Entertainment Venue Act and the Emergency Decree Does this mean the General will be giving up his reserved tables...and his steady hostesses? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommers Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 months in jail is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. The guilty premises should becseized by the state and sold, snd the revenue used to buy more vaccines. As for 5 year closures, these are a joke. A karaoke here was given a 5 year suspension but was trading again in 5 weeks because guess what, it was owned by someone in the army, that bastion of corruption 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ukrules said: I guess they will go after the owners who ordered the managers to do whatever it is that they did? ???????????????? Edit: Seriously, who owns these clubs? That is the big question. I know we are not supposed to spread rumours here, but another famous person says that a Chinese gang owns the club. That wouldn't surprise me at all as a group of Chinese are buying up lots of property around here (Thong Lor) and renting them out to VIPs, HiSo parties and other activities. They are also providing prostitution escort services to the clients. Edited April 12, 2021 by petedk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Hayduke said: Does this mean the General will be giving up his reserved tables...and his steady hostesses? Which ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Venom Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 hours ago, ukrules said: I guess they will go after the owners who ordered the managers to do whatever it is that they did? ???????????????? Not to mention the cops that let it happen.???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Yup chuck the manager in jail, and hire another manager. It would be a miracle if an actual owner of any business in Bangkok would be put in jail. It is Thailand after all. I do hope that the bars will also be shut down for 5 years, and no other name or reopening will be allowed for the properties, but time will tell on that issue. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 Am I missing something here? This is a classic army scapegoat move. Get the small fish. Leave the big ones alone. This is entirely the fault of Prayuth and Anutin. They should not only have been removed, they should both be in prison now. This could have been avoided, had Prayuth and Anutin taken action early, and decisively. Instead, the whole country is made to suffer the consequences of inaction, of not locking down ground zero, Samut Sakorn the first day of the second outbreak. It is beyond comprehension. It should have been locked down like a maximum security penitentiary. Cordoned off. A 2km. radius, around that seafood market where they found 900 positive cases. Nobody comes in or out. And can anyone guess why it wasn't? Squash the protest movement? Fear of the optics of a lockdown? No other explanation means anything, or comes close to breaking down why this action as not decisively taken. Sure, the main market was closed. But, people were allowed to travel freely, and become super spreaders. Just incredibly dumb policy and a nearly unforgivable lack of action. If the Thai people are to blame someone, these two should be at the top of the list. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Gray Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Actually I think that's the wrong sentence - better that anyone found with the virus who attended the club is put in hotel quarantine at the pub manager's expense. 20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Am I missing something here? This is a classic army scapegoat move. Get the small fish. Leave the big ones alone. This is entirely the fault of Prayuth and Anutin. They should not only have been removed, they should both be in prison now. This could have been avoided, had Prayuth and Anutin taken action early, and decisively. Instead, the whole country is made to suffer the consequences of inaction, of not locking down ground zero, Samut Sakorn the first day of the second outbreak. It is beyond comprehension. It should have been locked down like a maximum security penitentiary. Cordoned off. A 2km. radius, around that seafood market where they found 900 positive cases. Nobody comes in or out. And can anyone guess why it wasn't? Squash the protest movement? Fear of the optics of a lockdown? No other explanation means anything, or comes close to breaking down why this action as not decisively taken. Sure, the main market was closed. But, people were allowed to travel freely, and become super spreaders. Just incredibly dumb policy and a nearly unforgivable lack of action. If the Thai people are to blame someone, these two should be at the top of the list. Should read! "Pub owners expense" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Wait! What about my million?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: He said that the two nightspots may face closure for up to five years. There's the famous opt-out !!! Close the hi-so and well connected hang-out... not a chance in hell !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Am I missing something here? This is a classic army scapegoat move. Get the small fish. Leave the big ones alone. This is entirely the fault of Prayuth and Anutin. They should not only have been removed, they should both be in prison now. This could have been avoided, had Prayuth and Anutin taken action early, and decisively. Instead, the whole country is made to suffer the consequences of inaction, of not locking down ground zero, Samut Sakorn the first day of the second outbreak. It is beyond comprehension. It should have been locked down like a maximum security penitentiary. Cordoned off. A 2km. radius, around that seafood market where they found 900 positive cases. Nobody comes in or out. And can anyone guess why it wasn't? Squash the protest movement? Fear of the optics of a lockdown? No other explanation means anything, or comes close to breaking down why this action as not decisively taken. Sure, the main market was closed. But, people were allowed to travel freely, and become super spreaders. Just incredibly dumb policy and a nearly unforgivable lack of action. If the Thai people are to blame someone, these two should be at the top of the list. VIPs do not go to jail in Thailand. Ever. For any reason. And when you have a corrupted constitution and election process all those in power are doubly untouchable. And even though there are thousands who have been protesting the current situation since, I think, last July, they have achieved absolutely nothing, nothing at all. And they never will. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, ezzra said: They are merely scapegoats for the real people who should go to jail and for even longer periods, having said that, if indeed they operated the bars and allow patrons in when they shouldn't... oh well... Beat me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 The Pub Manager is probably just the scapegoat that the ownwes instructed to open & said do not worry about the BIB, they have their envelope already, In saying that he did not make any attempt at social distancing The judge should have instructed the owners be put in front of the court, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, mstevens said: That is what happened to Insanity on Sukhumvit 11 which received a 5 year closure order. Insanity largely had a farang customer base. I wonder if a 5 year closure order will be made to a bar with more of a local customer base? Been done many times before, bars, pubs, discos, karaoke bars where most or 99% or all customers are Thai, 5 years ban on the owners/managers having any connection to such venues. Edited April 12, 2021 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 Don't miss the actual article, highlight of which is "...18 police officers, attached to the Thonglor police station, contracted the virus while inspecting the entertainment outlets in the course of their duties. " (emphasis mine) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, phills2k1 said: Still blows me away that there are people who actually believe this He's probably one of the low IQers ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, brommers said: 2 months in jail is nothing more than a slap on the wrist They are 'fall guys', no doubt receiving their full salary whilst in prison and probably a sizeable bonus on top of it for a job well done when they get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: VIPs do not go to jail in Thailand. Ever. For any reason. And when you have a corrupted constitution and election process all those in power are doubly untouchable. And even though there are thousands who have been protesting the current situation since, I think, last July, they have achieved absolutely nothing, nothing at all. And they never will. You are probably correct. You are certainly correct about current officials being totally above the law here. However, I do think the youth will take down the dinosaurs, sooner or later. At least I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: 5 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: VIPs do not go to jail in Thailand. Ever. For any reason. And when you have a corrupted constitution and election process all those in power are doubly untouchable. And even though there are thousands who have been protesting the current situation since, I think, last July, they have achieved absolutely nothing, nothing at all. And they never will. Expand You are probably correct. You are certainly correct about current officials being totally above the law here. However, I do think the youth will take down the dinosaurs, sooner or later. At least I sure hope so. I can't think of anywhere that has happened. Can you? ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: I can't think of anywhere that has happened. Can you? ☹️ Well, it happened in Egypt, Libya and Algeria. But, it was not sustainable, in the end. The 14ft. alligators managed to climb right back into control of the swamp. However, I hold out hope. The only way for Thailand to move forward is without the toxic dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 3:17 AM, webfact said: The manager of two pubs, in Bangkok’s Thonglor area, which were blamed as the source of the current Thonglor COVID-19 cluster, has been sentenced to two months in prison, without suspension. Luckily the club owners had no idea what was going on in the clubs and therefore escaped prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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