Annual Extension ... Retirement ... Pension Method ... Nonthaburi Today

[JAS21]

My wife phoned Immigration this morning to book an appointment (my due date 2^nd May).. they said ‘walk in this afternoon we are quite’. I had all ready except the letter showing that I own the bank account and the last few months bank printout...so a dash to the bank to organise.

 

So I gave them ….

… Completed TM7 form

… 13 Months of Bank printout.  ( About 10 months from BB HQ, organised a while ago and then rest from my local branch) I did underline all my FTT's

… Letter showing that I own the bank account and total today..

… Standard form listing all my FTT’s (I transfer 65,100 each months and additional when needed)

… Copy of every page of my Bank Book (updated today)

... My Bank Book

... My Passport

… Proof that I have sufficient monthly pension.  The IO was very keen that it was a pension.

… Copy of all the pages of my Passport. It consists mainly of Annual Extensions.

… Copy of Departure card (TM6)

… Copy of Notification of Residence (TM30)

… Copy of last 90 Day Report (TM47)

… Copy of Yellow House Book

 

Possibly a little bit of an over kill regarding passport as they normally are only interested in the main page, your extension stamps and when you last entered Thailand. All pages of Bank Book may also have been an overkill as last year I only gave main page and updated last page. 

 

However as I was aware that there had been staff changes, so as to avoid having to do some extra copying there, I thought best to give a bit extra.

 

I found the IO very friendly. My wife came along ‘just in case’ but really wasn’t required, she just chatted to the IO..  

 

Just to force the point … the IO was very keen that money transferred originated from a Pension Company. I actually gave him a copy of my P60 and also showed him additional docs from my pension company. Think he wondered why the pension was not from the UK Government.  

 

I hope someone may find the above useful.

 

[tonray]

Their insistence in proving it's from a pension would seem problematic to those who generate retirement income from investments or other types of annuity income. 

Edited April 16, 2021 by tonray

[foreverlomsak]

31 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

… Standard form listing all my FTT’s (I transfer 65,100 each months and additional when needed)

Is this form from the bank or is it an Immigration form, does it not double up with the Bank Statement or the copy of Bank Passbook, all three contain the same info I would have thought.

You didn't need Immigration forms STM2 and acknowledgement forms for 1) Overstay Penalties and 2) Financial Requirements for Retirement or a house location map.

[JAS21]

4 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Is this form from the bank or is it an Immigration form, does it not double up with the Bank Statement or the copy of Bank Passbook, all three contain the same info I would have thought.

You didn't need Immigration forms STM2 and acknowledgement forms for 1) Overstay Penalties and 2) Financial Requirements for Retirement or a house location map.

Yes they do but TIT

 

No it is a special form  ... the one that is normally used to prove transfer of money to buy a Condo.

 

I had to sign some forms they gave me ... about overstay penalties

 

Let me know if you want a copy. I use Bangkok Bank

[foreverlomsak]

3 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

Yes they do but TIT

 

No it is a special form  ... the one that is normally used to prove transfer of money to buy a Condo.

 

I had to sign some forms they gave me ... about overstay penalties

 

Let me know if you want a copy. I use Bangkok Bank

Same bank I will be using next year, if you could send a copy it would be much appreciated.

I notice that you didn't refer to a house location map, not required?

[JAS21]

2 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Same bank I will be using next year, if you could send a copy it would be much appreciated.

I notice that you didn't refer to a house location map, not required?

I gave him a copy but he gave it back. I think normally that is only needed for marriage Extension. PM me your e-mail address as file might be a big big

 

[foreverlomsak]

29 minutes ago, tonray said:

Their insistence in proving it's from a pension would seem problematic to those who generate retirement income from investments or other types of annuity income. 

Even if all your income is from pensions it can be problematic, as I have one which pays annually, one which guarantees payment on or before the 1st of the month (5 months of the year nil, because 5 months get double payments) and one which pays every 4 weeks. As they would not appear on consistent dates, oops.

[JAS21]

4 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Even if all your income is from pensions it can be problematic, as I have one which pays annually, one which guarantees payment on or before the 1st of the month (5 months of the year nil, because 5 months get double payments) and one which pays every 4 weeks. As they would not appear on consistent dates, oops.

I don't bring all my pension over every month ... just 65,100.  If you can show that your total pension is at least 65,000 times 12 each year and you bring over at least 65,000 each month and the transfers show FTT then that should not be a problem... it might take a little bit of explaining though!!! BUT you must bring it over every calender month.

 

If your transfers don't show FTT then you need to go to the bank and get the paper chase ... how to do has been talked about in several topics.

[foreverlomsak]

20 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

I gave him a copy but he gave it back. I think normally that is only needed for marriage Extension.

Not in Phetchabun it's not, I've had to do one for each of the last 3 years.

 

[JAS21]

2 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Not in Phetchabun it's not, I've had to do one for each of the last 3 years.

 

Everywhere different .......

[foreverlomsak]

8 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

BUT you must bring it over every calender month.

That's easily done but the problem is that it's going to be about 5/6 years (with annual increases) before I get 65k / month, the rest comes from savings.

[JAS21]

3 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

That's easily done but the problem is that it's going to be about 5/6 years (with annual increases) before I get 65k / month, the rest comes from savings.

At Nonthaburi that would have been a problem .... and of course exchange rates vary ... and that may help or the other way!

[wwest5829]

19 hours ago, tonray said:

Their insistence in proving it's from a pension would seem problematic to those who generate retirement income from investments or other types of annuity income. 

I have not been faced with any "required" pension in Chiang Mai. I use the monthly transfer in as required. As an American ... no Pension. I receive $1320 USD in earned Social Security monthly. I draw a like amount from my own retirement/investment funds. But, I use an agency and figure they handle such matters supported by the supplied bank records. I was open to the USA saying they could not document the veracity of income claims ... dealing with the various retirement funding maeans ... well, it is like herding cats.

[tonray]

8 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

I have not been faced with any "required" pension in Chiang Mai. I use the monthly transfer in as required. As an American ... no Pension. I receive $1320 USD in earned Social Security monthly. I draw a like amount from my own retirement/investment funds. But, I use an agency and figure they handle such matters supported by the supplied bank records. I was open to the USA saying they could not document the veracity of income claims ... dealing with the various retirement funding maeans ... well, it is like herding cats.

That's the problem that every local office has their own rules, an absurd situation. I use Nonthaburi also, they can be 'difficult'

[Mavideol]

20 hours ago, JAS21 said:

Just to force the point … the IO was very keen that money transferred originated from a Pension Company.

they are looking pensioners with high monthly spending, maybe you fitted their standard thus the good attitude 555

 

Finally some good news: Thailand tipped to ease 90 day reporting for foreigners

The types of foreign retirees targeted will be those who have a healthy pension pot, with the ability to spend 200,000 - 300,000 baht per month.