chang1 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) If vaccines are this good for the weakest, eldest and otherwise most vulnerable then they are amazingly effective. Much better than the trials predicted. Just hope there are no long term, as yet unknown, side effects but I think we would see some signs of them by now. An almost insignificant number of blood clots, which may have been caused by covid (which is known to cause clots), are no reason to stop the vaccine rollout. I wonder how many people the likes of Macron and Merkel etc. have killed with their stupid comments and vaccine restrictions. Edited April 22, 2021 by onthedarkside reply to hidden post removed 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bougnat Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 one death every 20 mn on motorcycle. There is still room before we panic... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chang1 Posted April 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: that's not true. They've tested upwards of 10,000 a day at times. Like the last wave from the seafood factories. Cult members are blind to real facts. At least he was not advocating injecting bleach as a cure. Edited April 22, 2021 by onthedarkside quote of hidden post removed 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: that's not true. They've tested upwards of 10,000 a day at times. Like the last wave from the seafood factories. Not sure about that. 5000 maybe they just said they were going to do 10,000. Don't think it happened and of course it was in a relitively small area. As for vaccines being highly reliable it is surely to early to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetryxx Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: For me, the most important statistic here is the 7 new deaths. R.I.P The sad reality of consistently finding more and more Covid infections every day. ???? Well, fine and dandy but was there comorbidity, never reported unless forced to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Tests and Positive cases following the expected pattern, the more you test the more you will find https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/situation.php Those tests will also include repeat tests on the same patient. Hence the positivity rate cannont be calculated. There will also be lags between the day the test is done, and the day of the result. No conclusions can be made from that graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Thailand now number 2 (behind papua New Guinea) with 550% rise in weekly deaths. Does not bode well for those holiday brochures. TAT: Come to Thailand, enjoy the Covid and your ventilator while having a view of the Ocean and beach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10baht Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 For me, the most important statistic here is the 7 new deaths. R.I.P The sad reality of consistently finding more and more Covid infections every day. How wrong can you be, with 7 ++ deaths EVERYDAY on the roadways why are they so fixated on 117 over more than a year form CV-19, especially with no real vaccine efforts. Something seem off kilter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chang1 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, bougnat said: one death every 20 mn on motorcycle. There is still room before we panic... I think this is what many people in the UK and USA were saying but comparing it to flue instead. This is the start, just look at the UK figures when the 2nd wave took off with the same UK variant even with a lockdown. Thailand needs to have a severe lockdown now until vaccine rollout is well underway. Don't go by the recorded infections - look at the daily death rate and multiply that by 1000 to give you an idea of how bad it was 2 weeks ago. Then looking at the rate it increased daily over the last 7 days you will realize how much worse it is now. Then you have to factor in - are they reporting every death caused by covid? "There is still room before we panic..." - Panic won't help but it is too late to be complacent as it will take real effort to slow it down now but those in charge are immune so don't care now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, ukrules said: I see we're being drip fed the bare minimum of information at the moment. Where are these cases? No breakdown by province? In Cambodia, such information is published, usually on a daily basis, and I quote (April 22):- The Ministry of Health today confirmed it has detected 446 new cases of COVID-19 in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh alone, the health authorities have found 331 new cases, comprising 329 Cambodians, 1 Chinese and 1 Indonesian. Sihanoukville is second on today’s list, with 82 new cases detected in the coastal city. https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50843428/cambodias-covid-19-tally-passed-8000-as-446-new-cases-death-toll-rises-to-59/ In Thailand, maybe TAT censures such information????? Edited April 22, 2021 by metisdead 14) You will not post any copyrighted material except as fair use laws apply (as in the case of news articles). Please only post a link, the headline and the first three sentences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, apetryxx said: Well, fine and dandy but was there comorbidity, never reported unless forced to. I would also like to see the comorbidities of asymptomatics carriers and those with mild symptoms. I don't believe 99% of the Thai population is fit and healthy. Which it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Boedog said: Why is it a requirement to have a fit to fly cert then arrive in Thailand with COVID, you can't teach STUPID You can get a PHD in stupid I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: 7 Deaths, RIP and my condolences to your families. Maybe the Government will send officials to represent them at the funeral pyre, and express their sympathies, by paying respects and then paying for the needs of the families that they allowed the loved one to be removed from by not listening to the doctors and allowing travel over Songkran. Malfeasance at its best. Everyone was free to make their own decision about whether to travel or not during Songkran. It wasn't obligatory. Some members of my family decided against it. And I wouldn't put too much faith in people travelling because they were told by the government it was safe. I doubt many believe a word their loathed (from the people that I know, anyway) government says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Not sure about that. 5000 maybe they just said they were going to do 10,000. Don't think it happened and of course it was in a relitively small area. As for vaccines being highly reliable it is surely to early to tell. https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3114719/thailand-test-thousands-covid-19-after-outbreak-shrimp Quote He said up to 40,000 people would be tested in Samut Sakhon and nearby provinces, with more than 10,000 tests to be conducted by Wednesday. this was posted early Tuesday morning. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30397474 Quote Currently, 236 Covid-19 laboratories nationwide are checking more than 20,000 samples per day – 10,000 daily in Bangkok alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Just now, Kaopad999 said: Well, they are in good shape in terms of the vaccine roll out, but look the amount of covid deaths in the UK and USA UK 127,000 deaths ( similar population to the Thailand ) USA 596,000 deaths Compare those figures to Thailand = 110 deaths So, yeah those countries needed to be prioritized given the sheer number of cases and deaths. You don't see anything troublesome in those numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHansen Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, dinsdale said: Wasn't he saying it's nothing to worry about, it's like a flu just before he tested posive? A politician in the making-Answer a question with a question ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted April 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: (And selfishly hording the world's vaccine supplies doesn't seem to have done these countries any good if minimizing deaths was the goal.) I think you'll find that those countries who have vaccinated many millions have reduced their cases to a trickle. So yes, their vaccine supplies have done those countries good, dramatically so. How many infections and deaths before the vaccine and how many after, hmm? And, as far as I know, every country in the world was able to order vaccines at the same time. Some ordered what they needed (hoarded to you) and some - like Thailand - were very slow out of the blocks. Please do not condemn the countries that had the initiative to act quickly and get their order in. Condemn those who did not. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chang1 Posted April 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, 10baht said: For me, the most important statistic here is the 7 new deaths. R.I.P The sad reality of consistently finding more and more Covid infections every day. How wrong can you be, with 7 ++ deaths EVERYDAY on the roadways why are they so fixated on 117 over more than a year form CV-19, especially with no real vaccine efforts. Something seem off kilter. This is a common view when there is a successful campaign that kept numbers down with a lot of restrictions. Think of it like the dutch boy with his finger stopping the water leaking through a dyke. It is only a trickle what was he worried about. Just let it flow and go and have some fun instead. The UK variant is much more contagious so the difference now is a finger is not going to stop the flow the hole is already bigger than the boys arm and the mud is being washed out faster all the time. Soon hospitals may get overrun and it will not only be covid deaths rising but others who would normally have been treated. I was working in the mortuary at our local hospital (UK in full lockdown, early March I think). Normally they finish at 16:30 but they were at the time having to work until 19:00 with a constant stream of undertakers coming and going. Extra cold storage had been supplied to cope with the bodies. This really brought home how bad things were. 2 days ago I was working near there and did not see one undertaker during about 1 hour after 16:00. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, DavisH said: Those tests will also include repeat tests on the same patient. Hence the positivity rate cannont be calculated. There will also be lags between the day the test is done, and the day of the result. No conclusions can be made from that graph. No these do not include all the repeat tests, thats contained in the unfiltered data from all labs here https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/ scroll to bottom of page and download the excel file named: "test data In Thailand from 1 January 2020 - 4 April 2021 (Thailand COVID-19 Testing Data) (Raw Data)" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLEB Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Thailand now number 2 (behind papua New Guinea) with 550% rise in weekly deaths. Here is the latest, as of today, regarding the % rise in weekly cases: Thailand number 18. "18 Thailand 10,733 [cases this week;] 6,005 [cases last week;] % rise +79% " [from Worldometer] Edited April 22, 2021 by LarryLEB clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Mango Bob said: The people are dying because the government did not get the vaccine out to the people who needed it. They wait and wait to type to save money. But didn't care about saving lives. And then when they go to purchase a Vaccine, they pick the cheapest and the one from CHINA with a 50,4 % success rate. Reminder, Where do you think Covid came from? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, LarryLEB said: Here is the latest, as of today, regarding the % rise in weekly deaths: Thailand number 18. Number 2 weekly deaths change https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 42 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3114719/thailand-test-thousands-covid-19-after-outbreak-shrimp this was posted early Tuesday morning. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30397474 Refering to links and quotes, the first is concerned with the previous out break at the shrimp market, some 3 months ago it more. The second refers to antibody testing, not suitable for testing for current/early/asymptomatic infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLEB Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Number 2 weekly deaths change https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/ My apologies! I read the OP's statement as % increase in weekly cases, not deaths. I stand corrected AND I have edited my post to refer to cases. Thanks for "keeping me honest." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 IT's incredible what 2 weeks make in this pandemic. It was around 100 3 weeks ago, now it's 1400. These variants spread much easier, as every doctor has been barfing out. India today alone has 300k - today alone. Of course there's a billion there, but you get my drift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasin Jo Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, beano2274 said: Here is how Thailand is currently doing in the last 7 days Well, I'm in France and the daily reported cases are still around 30,000. Perhaps far more testing? I don't know. I did have my first Pfizer jab 10 days ago with the 2nd booked for 11 May. Free as are PCR tests. All pubs, cafés and restaurants have been firmly closed since 25 October but there is talk of them being reopened mid May, outside only. Curfew at 7 pm until 6 am. Only allowed to travel a max of 10 km from home at the moment. Also talk of lifting that mid May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1412 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, beano2274 said: Here is how Thailand is currently doing in the last 7 days can you share the source of this table please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Some troll posts of a various nature have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chang1 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, club said: And then when they go to purchase a Vaccine, they pick the cheapest and the one from CHINA with a 50,4 % success rate. Reminder, Where do you think Covid came from? A mate of mine knows a hospital worker that was given a vaccine (I presume from China) and is suffering so badly that she is not wanting the second dose. It sounds far worse than what the AZ vaccine produces. I personally would avoid it unless it was the only choice, as in her case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, chang1 said: A mate of mine knows a hospital worker that was given a vaccine (I presume from China) and is suffering so badly that she is not wanting the second dose. It sounds far worse than what the AZ vaccine produces. I personally would avoid it unless it was the only choice, as in her case. Hearing the same thing from my wife. Her Chinese friends in Thailand are all refusing to take sinovac (which is free for Chinese here arranged bt their embassy ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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