boogiewoogie Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: It's not why I don't like it, it's about the experts and their concern about lack of transparency of the data. Makes sense. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/slovak-health-ministry-says-sputnik-v-doses-tested-hungary-satisfactory-2021-05-09/ Its approved. But circus need to go on. Next act is Brazil. Lets see how it will work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Thailand will take what most people do not want, not even Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Actually, Sputnik is the onlly covid vaccine maker that has expressed a willingness to sell to private interests. And according to an paper in the Lancet, it's a highly effective vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Thailand will take what most people do not want, not even Russians. U trippin balls. India buying 360mil jabs, guyana, all former USSR and list go on. Or u ment "westerners"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, boogiewoogie said: U trippin balls. India buying 360mil jabs, guyana, all former USSR and list go on. Or u ment "westerners"? Actually, some Indian manufacturer has signed a licensing deal with Sputnik that will allow it to manufacture the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 hours ago, boogiewoogie said: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/slovak-health-ministry-says-sputnik-v-doses-tested-hungary-satisfactory-2021-05-09/ Its approved. But circus need to go on. Next act is Brazil. Lets see how it will work out. From that article. Dodgy as heck: Quote She did not provide details on what kind of tests were carried out in Hungary or how the results might address any data gaps raised by Slovakia's drug regulator. To date Russia has not won approval from the EU regulator, the European Medicines Agency, for Sputnik V. So far, Hungary is the only EU country to have begun inoculations with Sputnik V without waiting for EMA approval. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last month the EMA has not yet received sufficient information about Russia’s Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine to approve it but if approval does come soon, Germany will buy it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine candidate appears safe and effective https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, placeholder said: Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine candidate appears safe and effective https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4.pdf That's an old report and was produced by the Russians. Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: That's an old report and was produced by the Russians. Go figure... The authors of the paper are *Ian Jones https://www.reading.ac.uk/biologicalsciences/about/staff/i-m-jones.aspx and Polly Roy https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/aboutus/people/roy.polly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, placeholder said: The authors of the paper are *Ian Jones https://www.reading.ac.uk/biologicalsciences/about/staff/i-m-jones.aspx and Polly Roy https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/aboutus/people/roy.polly Read it closer. Jones may be doing the actual article, but the data is from Russian doctors. Many dodgy articles are submitted to The Lancet, many are not peer reviewed. And that's clearly stated. From your link, first sentence: Quote Denis Logunov and colleagues1 report their interim results from a phase 3 trial of the Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine in The Lancet. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sputnik-mutations-idUSKBN2AR0E7 Russian scientists say Sputnik V performs well against COVID mutations “(A) recent study carried out by the Gamaleya Centre in Russia showed that revaccination with Sputnik V vaccine is working very well against new coronavirus mutations, including the UK and South African strains of coronavirus,” said Denis Logunov, a deputy director of the centre, which developed the Sputnik V shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Read it closer. Jones may be doing the actual article, but the data is from Russian doctors. Many dodgy articles are submitted to The Lancet, many are not peer reviewed. And that's clearly stated. From your link, first sentence: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sputnik-mutations-idUSKBN2AR0E7 Russian scientists say Sputnik V performs well against COVID mutations “(A) recent study carried out by the Gamaleya Centre in Russia showed that revaccination with Sputnik V vaccine is working very well against new coronavirus mutations, including the UK and South African strains of coronavirus,” said Denis Logunov, a deputy director of the centre, which developed the Sputnik V shot. You're correct. My mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, placeholder said: You're correct. My mistake. Another member here posted a link to a study published by the lancet. It was dodgy as heck, from a covid denier. Not sure why they do this, but it clearly stated this was submitted and NOT peer reviewed. Not sure why they'd allow dodgy research reports to be published on their website. Anyway, IMHO, nothing wrong with the Russian jab. It's better than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Another member here posted a link to a study published by the lancet. It was dodgy as heck, from a covid denier. Not sure why they do this, but it clearly stated this was submitted and NOT peer reviewed. Not sure why they'd allow dodgy research reports to be published on their website. Anyway, IMHO, nothing wrong with the Russian jab. It's better than most. I looked for follow-up studies done outside of Russia to see how it performed. I couldn't find anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, placeholder said: I looked for follow-up studies done outside of Russia to see how it performed. I couldn't find anything. There was a report about a defect in manufacturing with the result that some of the deactivated viruses became active again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, placeholder said: There was a report about a defect in manufacturing with the result that some of the deactivated viruses became active again. Brasil report? The report they did without any testings? This is what i call dodgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) haha Sputnik... that's the spacecraft they first sent a monkey up in an experiment and it didn't come back... hmmm Edited May 11, 2021 by tlandtday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 8:42 AM, tlandtday said: haha Sputnik... that's the spacecraft they first sent a monkey up in an experiment and it didn't come back... hmmm No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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