Thailand says to add ICU beds after reporting record COVID-19 tally

[MrJ2U]

14 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Except that India set up vaccine production a long time ago.

 

However, I would expect the government to do a better job of organizing vaccinations in Thailand, once large quantities of vaccine are available.

 

On second thought: Thailand has already vaccinated 1,000,000 people, so why aren’t all health care workers vaccinated already?

Here's reality:

 

Less than 95,000 have gotten a second dose.

 

Also it's the Chinese Sinovac that besides causing paralysis in some patients is less than 50% effective and reports of only 3% effective.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Adding ICU beds does not help if there are not enough healthcare workers to support the beds. 

You beat me to it. Easy to provide more beds and machines but where will the staff to man them come from- magic?

Takes time to train ICU nurses, and it's not a 2 week course ( elsewhere ). Perhaps Thailand has loads of ICU trained nurses just waiting to be called on- go figure.

[khunpa]

4 hours ago, Guitarzan said:

They need ICU beds for “cases” people who show no sickness or symptoms, and no one questions this logic?  AMAZING!

Well is not for fun it is called “Amazing Thailand” ????

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, crazykopite said:

The only people who should be in hospital are those that are suffering with breathing difficulties it is absolute madness to place people who have tested positive but are healthy into hospital they should be monitored at home fir the 14 days . Has this useless government learnt nothing in the last 15 months or are they still with the belief that the virus will blow away in the wind as one very senior minister once stated .

Can't have one infectious person in same house as loads of others that are not infected for obvious reasons.

Anyway, who is going to "monitor" all the rural people in their own homes

[MrJ2U]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I thought Thailand was the medical hub of Asia...

cut the defense budget in half, get rid of 80% of the generals/commanders etc etc and support the health industry.

Lots of hub talk.

The "Medical Hub" of Asia as Anutin has proclaimed so many times is grossly overrated.

 

Besides a just a few good hospitals there basically huge aging buildings with rooms.  Very few doctors or supplies.  Family has to do the nurses job.  No food service.  Filthy bathrooms.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, MrJ2U said:

Lots of hub talk.

The "Medical Hub" of Asia as Anutin has proclaimed so many times is grossly overrated.

 

Besides a just a few good hospitals there basically huge aging buildings with rooms.  Very few doctors or supplies.  Family has to do the nurses job.  No food service.  Filthy bathrooms.

I think the "hub" thing is private hospitals like Bumrungrad, not the public health system.

[MrJ2U]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

I think the "hub" thing is private hospitals like Bumrungrad, not the public health system.

Your right.  Medical hub though?  

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, silicastorm said:

lvermectin has saved many people suffering with Covid. Go view the medical professionals testaments from around the globe at FLCCC. Its inexpensive and easily available for several decades. Ask your GP for more information.

There are very little positive results from clinical trials of Ivermectin.

[RobMuir]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the highly-transmissible B.1.1.7 variant, has caused more than 20,000 domestic infections with 27 fatalities in just 23 days.

 

We know who to thank for that one.

[jomtienisgood]

18 hours ago, mark131v said:

They have had a year to learn but still managed to be completely wrongfooted, idiots the lot of em...

So did , unfortunately, the rest of the world....

[plahgat]

Up until now Thailand has done a great job to avoid the spread of Corona in it´s population.

... but they did one big mistake!

They waited way too long to order vaccines, if they had started to vaccinate the population earlier,

they might have had a chance to stop the spread of Corona that we see today!

Until now only about 1 million people of a population of 70 million has been vaccinated! ????

[jomtienisgood]

9 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

 

We know who to thank for that one.

The new batch of tourists??

[Gandtee]

' the country struggles with a third wave of infections, ' Preplanning? Forward thinking? No, the usual crisis management and Government PR announcements telling its citizens how well those in charge are doing. Headless chickens!

[Mavideol]

18 hours ago, mark131v said:

They have had a year to learn but still managed to be completely wrongfooted, idiots the lot of em...

yeahhh and these are the people running the country with 62+/- millions of citizens, please God,  have mercy

[jomtienisgood]

8 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

yeahhh and these are the people running the country with 62+/- millions of citizens, please God,  have mercy

Looking at the percentage of ' God followers or believers ' in this country God will not have a big job...

[Mavideol]

I have been posting warnings about their lack of strategy, lack of vaccines, lack of preventive measures and lack of anything /everything, some they thought I was being a Thai basher  555

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

 

We know who to thank for that one.

Really, the government for allowing it in? The government for allowing it to spread? The UK for identifying it first in Kent? the Chinese for creating the original strain? or the Cambodians who apparently had a hand in mutating it a little and nipping across the border?

Edited April 24, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[mick01827]

19 hours ago, jackdd said:

But the health minister said that the Covid situation will normalize in 2-3 weeks, why the need to add more ICU beds?

 

Control with fear, its quite a simple strategy that works very well. 

[mick01827]

25 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

yeahhh and these are the people running the country with 62+/- millions of citizens, please God,  have mercy

Calm yourself down, in the UK they built the nightingale hospital because of the panic.....NONE OF THEM WERE USED! its all theatre for the masses. 

[CLW]

16 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Adding ICU beds does not help if there are not enough healthcare workers to support the beds.  This was the problem in other countries.

The situation cannot be contained until there is enough post infection immunity & vaccine protection to  slow spread. I don't think original Covid infection antibodies  will provide significant protection against new variants, so that leaves vaccine and basic precaution like social distancing, no large crowds and so on.

 

Unfortunately, Thailand seems to be following India model. It escape first hit and assume it would continue to escape, people get sloppy, little precaution. This virus mutates and adapts to be more infectious and more damaging, and now can have its way with the virgin Thailand. I think Thailand future will be more like India and less like UK with result. We are in for some months of heartbreaking tragedy and  Russia or China vaccine will not help.

Sputnik V has quite a good efficacy. But it might take months to arrive here. Thailand should have set from the beginning on the Biontech RNA technology, since the facilities had to be newly built anyway. But that's what you get with this current government in charge....

 

[Sheryl]

3 minutes ago, mick01827 said:

Calm yourself down, in the UK they built the nightingale hospital because of the panic.....NONE OF THEM WERE USED! its all theatre for the masses. 

 

The problem there (and elsewhere) is that bed space is the least of what constitutes a hospital.  Extra buildings with beds are useless in the absence of trained staff, equipment and all the other infrastructure - and existing staff are already overextended in the existing hospitals.

 

Thailand's situation is a little different in that they insist on confining people who have mild disease or are completely asymptomatic. For that, all you need is accommodations/food and guards. These "field hospitals" and "hospitels" are better understood as detention/quarantine  centers, not medical facilities.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, mick01827 said:

Calm yourself down, in the UK they built the nightingale hospital because of the panic.....NONE OF THEM WERE USED! its all theatre for the masses. 

It was called insurance but you obviously have none have you

[Andrew65]

4 hours ago, davidmann said:

thailand. done better than most  ,look death in USA,UK ,Italia ,borders closed in europe ,lock down in France ,maybe UK and Israel  ,so fare done the best to help there people. ,but this is here lot people dead and lot more people going die. ,its like Aids. ,its here now ,not going away ,people going to have to live with it. ,some die. with it , what you should ask ,where did come from ,so far only one country has made

money from the world suffering   CHINA 

 

A year ago northen Italy was ground-zero for COVID19 infections, anywhere in the world. Flights were still coming in to the UK unchecked from places like Milan & Turin.

[Andrew65]

14 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

The problem there (and elsewhere) is that bed space is the least of what constitutes a hospital.  Extra buildings with beds are useless in the absence of trained staff, equipment and all the other infrastructure - and existing staff are already overextended in the existing hospitals.

 

Thailand's situation is a little different in that they insist on confining people who have mild disease or are completely asymptomatic. For that, all you need is accommodations/food and guards. These "field hospitals" and "hospitels" are better understood as detention/quarantine  centers, not medical facilities.

They used to be called 'isolation hospitals'. My mother was in one in the UK around 1943, she had Diptheria.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tenhoursaway]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Can you quantify "a lot"?

I mean it does sound impressive, but also, maybe a little bit vague.

 

It really means a lot.  - I am sorry if I will not elaborate our business numbers. 

I am pretty sure our parent company would not be amused, and sincerely hope that is understandable.

 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well its not enough is it, they've nearly run out and with over 2,800 new cases today there's going to be a large shortage within days

At least they add ICUs, not like in some European countries where hospital beds have been reduced during the ongoing pandemic to save costs.

 

Furthermore,  I like to stress it once again, it is not just building a new ICU and throw equipment in (which needs weeks, if the building structure is already available).

You also need the medical staff - professional ICU nurses, MDs, to man the ICU. Otherwise it is just an expensive room, but nobody there to operate the equipment, and care for the patients.

 

This is the real bottleneck, and nobody can resolve this in one year. 

 

 

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[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Lots of hub talk.

The "Medical Hub" of Asia as Anutin has proclaimed so many times is grossly overrated.

 

Besides a just a few good hospitals there basically huge aging buildings with rooms.  Very few doctors or supplies.  Family has to do the nurses job.  No food service.  Filthy bathrooms.

I think the "hub" thing is private hospitals like Bumrungrad, not the public health system.

 

Living in the provinces, many can attest to how good and thorough the government hospitals are. They, in conjunction with Tambon obortor's have been key in Thailand's so far successful handling of the pandemic. Yes, this new Covid wave appears to be of an order of magnitude greater than the start last year and the subsequent Burmese casino and food factory worker clusters. However, I have faith in the systems in place to perform to the best of their abilities. It is unfortunate that the government and especially the unqualified lick-spittle DPM and Health Minister have their oars in these dangerous waters but one must have faith in the trained medical professionals getting on with doing what they do best.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, tenhoursaway said:

At least they add ICUs, not like in some European countries where hospital beds have been reduced during the ongoing pandemic to save costs.

There are only 69 ICU's left in Bangkok, they'll be full in days if not hours. They may have added more but how many exactly for perspective? 

 

Hows the European example relevant?

 

Reducing hospital beds to save costs in Europe? No doubt the saved costs went on extra resources to cope with the covid patients in ICU they had.

 

Or do you have other credible information?

Edited April 24, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[NanLaew]

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

36 minutes ago, mick01827 said:

Calm yourself down, in the UK they built the nightingale hospital because of the panic.....NONE OF THEM WERE USED! its all theatre for the masses. 

It was called insurance but you obviously have none have you

 

Oh my... that's good. Really good.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

 

Oh my... that's good. Really good.

Would you like play?