Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Well, folks, here we go. We got an announcement that foreigners are to be included (and free as well as if that matters) in the Thai national vaccine program. But oh no there's that cliche, the devil is in the details. I like many expats want a vaccine ASAP. I'm definitely in a risk group. I want to be included along with the Thais in the EARLIER priority time for higher risk people, but the government has not made it clear whether they intend to include high risk foreigners in that priority. If anything, there have been hints that we are not included in that, but again, it's just not clear. I would prefer not to get the Sinovac or Sputnik but will if there's no other choice, or it would be mean waiting longer for a better choice. Traveling outside of Thailand for a vaccine is a non starter for me. I do not have any kind of Thai ID number and won't be having that. Apparently the app for signing up for this REQUIRES a Thai I.D. number! Problem, yes? I have a passport number. I am not registered in the Thai social security system. I'm not signed up at any hospital on any kind of vaccine list. I'm aware that the enforcement of these vaccine programs may be very different, locality to locality. That's why I think it's justified to have a specific PATTAYA topic for this. What's true for Pattaya would have nothing to do with Phuket. etc. I know for a fact there are many many expats in Pattaya that share at least some aspects of my situation. This thread is mostly for those that are OUTSIDE the Thai social security system because those already in it will presumably be contacted about a vaccination the same as Thais. I don't mean to exclude those in the system in any way from this discussion. I just think people OUTSIDE of the system have a bigger problem. UNLESS they fix the app to accept passport numbers instead of Thai I.D. numbers, I'm assuming that I will need to somehow try to sign up manually at a physical location. Where? How? When? I realize this information likely isn't available yet but hopefully as things might become more clear, people can share specific PRACTICAL information about how to sign up for a vaccine on this topic. On the topic of private hospital access for pay, I would love to have that option. But recently the government said that private hospitals can't independently buy vaccines. So for the time being, I'm going to assume that that option is not happening. Obviously if that changes and it becomes an option for expats to simply go to a private hospital and pay for a vaccine, that would be fantastic news. But we can't count on that! Thanks for your attention and participation. Edited April 30, 2021 by Jingthing 25 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scouse123 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Agree with you. You are raising concerns applicable to many of us. Why do you think it is unique to Pattaya ? We are all just as anxious country wide. Phuket was only a special case, and vaccinating residents, Thai and foreign,whilst the bloody dreamers in government were talking about opening the island up first for vaccinated tourists. I have no doubt that is in the bin now. I too would love just to go to a private hospital and have the whole family vaccinated and pay for the privilege. I may be behind the curve here, and it isn't mine or anyone's fault, it's due to the bloody constant flip flopping of the government that we just don't know where we are from one day to the next. I am unsure at this moment in time where we all are with private institutions purchasing vaccines. They were then they weren't, then they were?? That is what I really want to know, as along with you,and as a cancer survivor on meds and at 59, I am in a higher risk group. No doubt there will be another announcement today and things will be clear as mud once more. Edited April 30, 2021 by Scouse123 10 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 Lot of whining about your personal situation... some facts: the situation for the Thai people is the same. While they can sign-up using the app, it is completely unclear how they will get selected, when they might get their shot and which vaccine will be used for them. Here you go, you are in the same boat as the Thai - which you obviously don't like... not having a Thai-ID is a deliberate choice of yours. I personally have a Thai-ID, but I am also outside the SS system, never worked in Thailand. Takes a bit of time and energy, but it seems you never invested that time and energy to get your pink ID card. The ID is a valid ID which I used to open bank accounts, get SIM cards, register in apps, all without the need of my home country passport. both Bumrungrad in Bangkok as well as Bangkok Hospital Pattaya have informed me through mail (as I am registered as patient with both) , that I can sign up for the Thai government vaccine program, BUT the same way as the Thai people: No choice of the vaccine that will be used, priority given through health status and age same as the Thai people. So you should stop whining and go to the next private hospital and sign up for the vaccine program, they will tell you exactly how and what and when and where. Finally, your lack of information seems to be a lack of looking. If you would sign up in Facebook to the group "PR Thai Government" (https://www.facebook.com/watch/thailandprd/), you would find a lot of official information, including information about how to register for the vaccination program through the line app "mor prom", nearby hospitals, village health volunteers or "health promotion hospitals" just hanging around waiting and whining will not do you any good 21 6 21 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 30, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said: Lot of whining about your personal situation... some facts: the situation for the Thai people is the same. While they can sign-up using the app, it is completely unclear how they will get selected, when they might get their shot and which vaccine will be used for them. Here you go, you are in the same boat as the Thai - which you obviously don't like... not having a Thai-ID is a deliberate choice of yours. I personally have a Thai-ID, but I am also outside the SS system, never worked in Thailand. Takes a bit of time and energy, but it seems you never invested that time and energy to get your pink ID card. The ID is a valid ID which I used to open bank accounts, get SIM cards, register in apps, all without the need of my home country passport. both Bumrungrad in Bangkok as well as Bangkok Hospital Pattaya have informed me through mail (as I am registered as patient with both) , that I can sign up for the Thai government vaccine program, BUT the same way as the Thai people: No choice of the vaccine that will be used, priority given through health status and age same as the Thai people. So you should stop whining and go to the next private hospital and sign up for the vaccine program, they will tell you exactly how and what and when and where. Finally, your lack of information seems to be a lack of looking. If you would sign up in Facebook to the group "PR Thai Government" (https://www.facebook.com/watch/thailandprd/), you would find a lot of official information, including information about how to register for the vaccination program through the line app "mor prom", nearby hospitals, village health volunteers or "health promotion hospitals" just hanging around waiting and whining will not do you any good Predictably insulting. You can't help yourself, can you? But you may have provided some ideas. Again, I don't have a Thai ID. I assume most retired expats don't have a Thai ID. There are many people in my situation, so people doing a superior dance, I'm a good expat / you're a bad expat show is completely UNHELPFUL. Responding to your points: The app does not accept passport numbers, so I and many other expats can't use the app. Maybe soon it will. We can hope. Your point of contacting a private hospital is NOT CLEAR. You said explicitly that you were told by mail that you can register the same as Thai people. AGAIN, you need a Thai ID to do that. So what would be the point of contacting Bangkok Pattaya hospital to be told to sign up like Thai people, as I and many others, can't? Or were you trying to suggest something else. If so, maybe you could tell us. Can you point to a specific video on that FB page that addresses how to MANUALLY sign up for the program as an expat with only a passport number? Also as I made clear in my OP, looking for PATTAYA specific information which I suspect is not really available yet as so much of this is new. Such as which hospital to go to, how to contact them if you only have a passport number, etc. etc. For example if someone walked into the Soi Buakow hospital tomorrow and asked to register with their passport, would that work or not NOW, or is this something we need to wait for until the local Thais get their act more gelled on how to deal with us (or not). Edited April 30, 2021 by Jingthing 17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted April 30, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: Agree with you. You are raising concerns applicable to many of us. Why do you think it is unique to Pattaya ? We are all just as anxious country wide. Phuket was only a special case, and vaccinating residents, Thai and foreign,whilst the bloody dreamers in government were talking about opening the island up first for vaccinated tourists. I have no doubt that is in the bin now. I too would love just to go to a private hospital and have the whole family vaccinated and pay for the privilege. I may be behind the curve here, and it isn't mine or anyone's fault, it's due to the bloody constant flip flopping of the government that we just don't know where we are from one day to the next. I am unsure at this moment in time where we all are with private institutions purchasing vaccines. They were then they weren't, then they were?? That is what I really want to know, as along with you,and as a cancer survivor on meds and at 59, I am in a higher risk group. No doubt there will be another announcement today and things will be clear as mud once more. Well I do understand your point. It seems we hear one thing one day, and the complete opposite thing the next day. How is the public supposed to coherently process all that? It's almost impossible. But the last I heard the private hospitals are not going to be running a separate track program for Thais and possibly foreigners that are willing to pay. So as I said, at least for now, we can't count on that. Before recently, I assume most expats (outside the social security system) were assuming that was their path. Sadly that path isn't being promised any longer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digbeth Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 My international hospital in Bangkok (Bumrunrad) has emailed and offered to put me on a list for the government vaccine, stressing that there is no choice in vaccine (must be either Sinovac or AstraZeneca) and that the vaccine is free, but the hospital will be charging doctor's fee and service fee I have declined so far, but if you are eager, migh be worth contacting Bangkok Hospital Pattaya to see if they have similar program? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, digbeth said: My international hospital in Bangkok (Bumrunrad) has emailed and offered to put me on a list for the government vaccine, stressing that there is no choice in vaccine (must be either Sinovac or AstraZeneca) and that the vaccine is free, but the hospital will be charging doctor's fee and service fee I have declined so far, but if you are eager, migh be worth contacting Bangkok Hospital Pattaya to see if they have similar program? That's interesting. Thanks. Are you in a high risk group or not? It matters in the context of this topic about the question about whether high risk expats are included in the priority program (earlier) along with Thais in the national program. I'm pretty sure this group is NOT going to be given Sinovac based on my recent reading. So either you're not in a high risk group or if you are, that hospital is signally to you that as a foreigner you're not included in the priority (earlier) high risk group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digbeth Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: That's interesting. Thanks. Are you in a high risk group or not? It matters in the context of this topic about the question about whether high risk expats are included in the priority program (earlier) along with Thais in the national program. I'm pretty sure this group is NOT going to be given Sinovac based on my recent reading. So either you're not in a high risk group or if you are, that hospital is signally to you that as a foreigner you're not included in the priority (earlier) high risk group. The hospital say that they will 'forward' your details to the government and that the criteria are: 1 age over 60 years old, 2 cronic disease like respitory disease, heart disease, diabetes and overweight 3 general population so exactly like the Thai program, who knows if behind the scene, if you're signed via the private hospital if they could nudge you into earlier group if take up were slow in other groups Last time during the Samut Sakorn cluster, Sinovac was given to the over 60 yeas old group too, If the requirement to sign up online is lack of Thai ID no, I'm sure your hospital can help overcome this or has a way to sign up manually. Anecdotally, staff in Terminal 21 said they were all canvassed to have their names put down for vaccination, so look like the city is gearing up for a big push 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: I want to be included along with the Thais in the EARLIER priority time for higher risk people, but the government has not made it clear whether they intend to include high risk foreigners in that priority. Perhaps apply another old cliche....... you are on the priority list, just below the family distant aunt, the sick buffalo and the 4 pet mongrels. 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: But recently the government said that private hospitals can't independently buy vaccines. So for the time being, I'm going to assume that that option is not happening. I saw an email copy from someone recently suggesting private hospitals had been given the go ahead to source their own vaccines, and the hospital had ordered, with an aim to go on public sale, maybe by June. Perhaps the authorities are flip-flopping on this though... I suspect they want to be in sole control! Good post. Edited April 30, 2021 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bday Prang Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 I wouldn't worry too much just remember where you are, With a bit of "creativity" it will be easy enough to get vaccinated with whatever vaccine you want. Its not only immigration and police that are open to "persuasion" Come on guys its all part of assimilating into Thai society 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: Predictably insulting. You can't help yourself, can you? But you may have provided some ideas. Again, I don't have a Thai ID. I assume most retired expats don't have a Thai ID. There are many people in my situation, so people doing a superior dance, I'm a good expat / you're a bad expat show is completely UNHELPFUL. Responding to your points: The app does not accept passport numbers, so I and many other expats can't use the app. Maybe soon it will. We can hope. Your point of contacting a private hospital is NOT CLEAR. You said explicitly that you were told by mail that you can register the same as Thai people. AGAIN, you need a Thai ID to do that. So what would be the point of contacting Bangkok Pattaya hospital to be told to sign up like Thai people, as I and many others, can't? Or were you trying to suggest something else. If so, maybe you could tell us. Can you point to a specific video on that FB page that addresses how to MANUALLY sign up for the program as an expat with only a passport number? Also as I made clear in my OP, looking for PATTAYA specific information which I suspect is not really available yet as so much of this is new. Such as which hospital to go to, how to contact them if you only have a passport number, etc. etc. For example if someone walked into the Soi Buakow hospital tomorrow and asked to register with their passport, would that work or not NOW, or is this something we need to wait for until the local Thais get their act more gelled on how to deal with us (or not). When I said "same as the Thai people" I did mean same as the Thai people who don't have a smart phone and therefore will walk into the next hospital (for Pattay probably Pattaya City on Bhuakow / Sai Saam, Memorial on Pattaya Klang / Sai Song or Bangkok Hospital on Sukhumvit) and start to ask. As you said yourself, if the app currently requires a Thai-ID, then you are out of luck using it. Going into a hospital for registration is the officially proposed second way by the Thai government - except of course, when you are too busy with other things? For your point about specific info for Pattaya: Since the government ist currently tightly controlling the vaccines / vaccine programs and since they clearly announce that registration starts in May and vaccination starting on 7 June for people older than 60 or with medical conditions. Registration for people 18-59 starts in July with vaccinations starting August. There CAN NOT BE any Pattaya specific information, as all is currently "under construction" by the central government. With regards to vaccine, the government also clearly outlined, that currently they import vaccines for health workers / tourist area workers and those people mainly will receive CoronaVac (from Sinovac), as the 50'000 imported Astra Zeneca shots would have been used by "other" people. According to government info, June is the availability date for the first shots of Astra Zeneca from Siam Bioscience. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post redwood1 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Swiss1960 said: Lot of whining about your personal situation... some facts: the situation for the Thai people is the same. While they can sign-up using the app, it is completely unclear how they will get selected, when they might get their shot and which vaccine will be used for them. Here you go, you are in the same boat as the Thai - which you obviously don't like... not having a Thai-ID is a deliberate choice of yours. I personally have a Thai-ID, but I am also outside the SS system, never worked in Thailand. Takes a bit of time and energy, but it seems you never invested that time and energy to get your pink ID card. The ID is a valid ID which I used to open bank accounts, get SIM cards, register in apps, all without the need of my home country passport. both Bumrungrad in Bangkok as well as Bangkok Hospital Pattaya have informed me through mail (as I am registered as patient with both) , that I can sign up for the Thai government vaccine program, BUT the same way as the Thai people: No choice of the vaccine that will be used, priority given through health status and age same as the Thai people. So you should stop whining and go to the next private hospital and sign up for the vaccine program, they will tell you exactly how and what and when and where. Finally, your lack of information seems to be a lack of looking. If you would sign up in Facebook to the group "PR Thai Government" (https://www.facebook.com/watch/thailandprd/), you would find a lot of official information, including information about how to register for the vaccination program through the line app "mor prom", nearby hospitals, village health volunteers or "health promotion hospitals" just hanging around waiting and whining will not do you any good Swiss1960 ...Your the man.......The perfect expat that does everything right......Hats off to you Sir.....If only the rest of us could be so good.... 4 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swiss1960 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Swiss1960 ...Your the man.......The perfect expat that does everything right......Hats off to you Sir.....If only the rest of us could be so good.... Nothing to to with perfect, but everything to do with adjusting to the country I decided to live and love in... with all the flaws and issues, including not always being treated equal by certain groups in Thailand, including ever shifting goals by the government in various areas, including being treated less favorable as the Thais are treated in my home country and so on. To those who always see the greener grass on the other side of the fence, to those who always think that their glass is half empty and to those who constantly moan about how much better "we foreigners" would be to lead the country into a brighter future while they sit on a bar stool... to those I say, maybe they should think about whether they are in the wrong place. 8 2 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Jingthing said: The app does not accept passport numbers, so I and many other expats can't use the app. Apparently a Thai person can register others, possibly without an ID number "Users can also register on behalf of others by activating the “Add people” feature and including their relation to the registrant. After the registration is completed, users can proceed to the next step – booking a vaccination appointment." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jingthing said: Well I do understand your point. It seems we hear one thing one day, and the complete opposite thing the next day. How is the public supposed to coherently process all that? It's almost impossible. But the last I heard the private hospitals are not going to be running a separate track program for Thais and possibly foreigners that are willing to pay. So as I said, at least for now, we can't count on that. Before recently, I assume most expats (outside the social security system) were assuming that was their path. Sadly that path isn't being promised any longer. I can appreciate your anxiousness, respectfully. I am also in the high risk category, I have a Thai ID card, but am not looking to get vaccinated with a vaccine that I do not want of my choice, and that is my choice, now that might well be the end of me, however, there is research out there that suggests that the Flu and Pneumonia vaccines provide some protection against the Covid virus, Google is a wonderful tool, so please do your research. I am getting one of each shortly, i.e. until a vaccine of my choice is readily available in Thailand, the sooner the better of course, but some protection for respiratory diseases with proven vaccines is better than none at the moment, especially for those of us with pre-existing conditions and age, and how those two stack up in the end if I end up with Covid will be something I don't want to have to test for obvious reasons, but the research does suggest that there is protection for respiratory diseases and some protection for Covid, so maybe do some research on this, not suggesting it is a magic bullet for Covid, but maybe helpful if you come down with a respiratory disease, of which Covid is as well. The above said, we all have to remain calm in an awfully mismanaged situation which we have no control of, and never will have, just to see that the government got first pick and then health care workers, then Phuket's population, before the older ones, and those with pre-existing conditions should say enough, most Thai's and farangs with or without pre-existing conditions are at the bottom of the pile, welcome to the land of smiles, yes they didn't make that saying up for nothing, it is a double edged sword, make of that what you will, smile, knife, back, say no more.....ok one more, dirty farang ???? Hang in there, we are all in the same boat heading to the same place at the end of our use by dates, whether we get an extension of time with these vaccines is something that is totally out of our control, so keep enjoying what you can, and adhere to the basics, i.e. social distancing, washing hands, wearing a mask and make it your mission to see yourself through this pandemic with a relaxed mind, because the stress will effect you in one way or another, shut it down in your mind, don't let the thoughts and anxiety take over. See you on the other side as I am heading outside with a fresh hot cup of black coffee to take in the fresh air, listen to the birds chirping, looking at the greenery surrounding me, and the clear blue sky while I still have the chance of having some sanity before the family wakes up ???? Edited May 1, 2021 by 4MyEgo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 6 hours ago, digbeth said: My international hospital in Bangkok (Bumrunrad) has emailed and offered to put me on a list for the government vaccine, stressing that there is no choice in vaccine (must be either Sinovac or AstraZeneca) and that the vaccine is free, but the hospital will be charging doctor's fee and service fee I have declined so far, but if you are eager, migh be worth contacting Bangkok Hospital Pattaya to see if they have similar program? most of what the government comes up with is total <deleted>. , Free, no its not; for all expats, no its not; choice of vaccine, no, just the <deleted> stuff from China and Russia, those bastions of openness and probity. Its the usual smoke and mirrors that this government is so fond of. I either pay privately for the vaccine I want, when those morons in charge of supply get their act together, or they can stuff it and I will take my chances. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Pilotman said: most of what the government comes up with is total <deleted>. , Free, no its not; for all expats, no its not; choice of vaccine, no, just the <deleted> stuff from China and Russia, those bastions of openness and probity. Its the usual smoke and mirrors that this government is so fond of. I either pay privately for the vaccine I want, when those morons in charge of supply get their act together, or they can stuff it and I will take my chances. Have you tried contacting the UK Embassy perhaps they may be able to help...........???? Calm down ignore my first response and get it sorted privately as I would.....contact Gavin Waddell a fine chap from Scotland he is the International Marketing Executive at the nearby Phyathai Hospital in Sriracha......Email: [email protected] and he will get back to you swiftly with all the info you may need......personally after having a bad reaction to a flu jab back in the late 60,s I,m reluctant to accept the Covid jab unless it becomes mandatory. Edited May 1, 2021 by petermik 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, petermik said: Have you tried contacting the UK Embassy perhaps they may be able to help...........???? Calm down ignore my first response and get it sorted privately as I would.....contact Gavin Waddell a fine chap from Scotland......Email: [email protected] and he will get back to you swiftly with all the info you may need......personally after having a bad reaction to a flu jab back in the late 60,s I,m reluctant to accept the Covid jab unless it becomes mandatory. I share your concern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Pilotman said: I share your concern. Not concerned about Covid to be honest....when the big chief decides it`s my last day on earth there`s nowt I can do about it....I,ll be a gonner ???? 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 I asked my Thai friend to call Bangkok Hospital Pattaya this morning to inquire about a vaccine for expats. This is the message she sent me. Nothing else to report, just this information given to her by someone at the hospital. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) With all due respect to those that don't want any Covid-19 vaccine this topic is the completely WRONG place to advocate for that. There are plenty of other venues for that. This thread is specifically for expats in Thailand that have decided that they very much want to be vaccinated. Yes I understand that some of us that do want jabs don't want Sinovac and/or Sputnik and as of today the current information is that we won't be given a choice. Anyway .... Edited May 1, 2021 by Jingthing 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: I asked my Thai friend to call Bangkok Hospital Pattaya this morning to inquire about a vaccine for expats. This is the message she sent me. Nothing else to report, just this information given to her by someone at the hospital. That's not good and that's not the same as information being announced nationally that indicates there will be an earlier phase for high risk people (not sure if Thais only or not) where it would not be Sinovac starting I think in June. Of course that list doesn't mention any Pattaya hospitals. As I strongly suspected in my OP this is not going to be very clear or easy for many or most of us. Edited May 1, 2021 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pilotman said: most of what the government comes up with is total <deleted>. , Free, no its not; for all expats, no its not; choice of vaccine, no, just the <deleted> stuff from China and Russia, those bastions of openness and probity. Its the usual smoke and mirrors that this government is so fond of. I either pay privately for the vaccine I want, when those morons in charge of supply get their act together, or they can stuff it and I will take my chances. The current information is that what you want from private hospitals is not going to be available. Currently it appears that you need to somehow get registered in the national system and that you won't be given a choice of vaccine even if done at a private hospital. That could change of course. Edited May 1, 2021 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 Evidence of what I think is obvious. Vaccine access is both a national and a local issue. https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/pattaya-councilman-doubts-government-covid-19-vaccination-plan-353351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WaveHunter Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Swiss1960 said: Lot of whining about your personal situation... some facts: the situation for the Thai people is the same. While they can sign-up using the app, it is completely unclear how they will get selected, when they might get their shot and which vaccine will be used for them. Here you go, you are in the same boat as the Thai - which you obviously don't like... not having a Thai-ID is a deliberate choice of yours. I personally have a Thai-ID, but I am also outside the SS system, never worked in Thailand. Takes a bit of time and energy, but it seems you never invested that time and energy to get your pink ID card. The ID is a valid ID which I used to open bank accounts, get SIM cards, register in apps, all without the need of my home country passport. both Bumrungrad in Bangkok as well as Bangkok Hospital Pattaya have informed me through mail (as I am registered as patient with both) , that I can sign up for the Thai government vaccine program, BUT the same way as the Thai people: No choice of the vaccine that will be used, priority given through health status and age same as the Thai people. So you should stop whining and go to the next private hospital and sign up for the vaccine program, they will tell you exactly how and what and when and where. Finally, your lack of information seems to be a lack of looking. If you would sign up in Facebook to the group "PR Thai Government" (https://www.facebook.com/watch/thailandprd/), you would find a lot of official information, including information about how to register for the vaccination program through the line app "mor prom", nearby hospitals, village health volunteers or "health promotion hospitals" just hanging around waiting and whining will not do you any good @Jingthing's "whining" is a reflection of what we ALL feel so that's pretty mean-spirited of you to make such a PERSONAL attack on the Op. Furthermore, I happen to be an ardent follower of the daily CCSA briefings on PR Thai Government's facebook page (as you suggest), and I am always frustrated by official statements made there, such as the recent one about foreigners being included in the government's vaccination plans BUT NEVER, EVER giving any further details of what that precisely means, and only adding that further details will come at some future time. Such types of optimistic statements have occurred repeatedly in the past with respect to things related to the pandemic, like timelines for lifting certain restrictions, official guidelines to follow, revisions to those guidelines, and often two different officials releasing conflicting information often resulting in more confusion than before the statements were released. So really, these optimistic statements are pretty much meaningless in answering the big question...WHEN! I think their only purpose is just to placate the public, and nothing more. Edited May 1, 2021 by WaveHunter 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, WaveHunter said: @Jingthing's "whining" is a reflection of what we ALL feel so that's pretty mean-spirited of you to make such a PERSONAL attack. FYI, I am an ardent follower of the daily CCSA briefings on PR Thai Government's facebook page, and I am always frustrated by official statements such as the recent one about foreigners being included in the government's vaccination plans BUT NEVER, EVER giving any further details of what that precisely means, and only adding that further details will come at some future time. Such types of optimistic statements have occurred repeatedly in the past with respect to things related to the pandemic, like lifting of certain restrictions, official guidelines, revisions to guidelines, and often two different departments will release conflicting information often resulting in more confusion than before the statement was released. So really, these optimistic statements are pretty much meaningless in answering the big question...WHEN! I think their only purpose is just to placate the public, and nothing more. Yes I agree his response was totally and unnecessary mean spirited. This topic is about helping each other to meet our totally worthy and both personally and socially responsible goal of getting vaccinated in Thailand. I admit I probably could have done a better job of making my OP more general. But the intention of my OP was to indeed describe my situation with complete confidence that many many other expats could personally relate to at least some aspects of it. In any case I can't redo the OP but I'm pretty satisfied that it did succeed in getting the ball rolling here to attract mostly on topic discussion. I don’t expect these issues to be resolved for most us instantly or anytime soon. So hopefully this topic will be useful to a lot of local expats going forward for as long as it takes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) Update, eventually successful booking on the Mor Prom app, using Pink ID There doesn't appear to be any options without a Thai ID number. A thai can book on behalf of someone else but it still requires that persons ID number Edited May 1, 2021 by Peterw42 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Swiss1960 said: they should think about whether they are in the wrong place. Perhaps you should think about whether you are in the right topic..... Search for one all about you! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 @Jingthing shame you had to endure that diatribe from a holier than thou member, ignore him he may go away, in the meantime the info posted by @bkk6060 is encouraging, yes I know August is 3 months away but waiting for the jab you want, when you want it is better than being dictated to accept a sub standard vaccine ( Sinovac or Sputnik ) I believe the AstraZeneca jab is also acceptable & let's be honest here, the way things are going generally in Thailand we will be at the very back of any government free jab queue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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