First case of Indian COVID-19 variant detected in a Thai mother and her 4-year old son

[bstafford214]

13 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

It's probably already in Myanmar. Next stop. Thailand.

Nope, already here.  Why are they letting people back in?  It seems even quarantine makes no difference, but also understand that

somehow people are sneaking into the country somehow and not caring if they bring it and those people need locked up.

[GroveHillWanderer]

12 hours ago, nightfox said:

It just takes one to ignite a wildfire....Just ask India.

I haven't seen any data yet, showing the Indian variant is the main reason behind the recent surge in cases and deaths in India.

 

The last data I saw, released by the Indian authorities, showed that in some Indian states, including some of the most populous, the UK variant is still the predominant strain.

[cormanr7]

It may be too late to stop the Indian variant. In London, almost 40%  of sequenced samples now pertain to the B 1.617.2 variant  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9561595/Coronavirus-HALF-Covid-cases-London-Indian-variant-data-suggests.html. However, the UK has a large Indian population and -until very recently- lots of flights from India which will have exacerbated the situation. Cases have been reported in numerous countries, including Indonesia (https://news.abplive.com/news/ india/indian-covid-variant-detected-in-morocco-indonesia-along-with-17-other-countries-know-why-this-variant-spread-so-fast-1456740.). Interestingly, this article claims that the indigenous Covavaxin inactivated virus vaccine (from Bharat) is effective against the mutant but it is difficult to get independent verification. Actually one could surmise that whole virus vaccines might be more effective against mutants where genomic changes are often concentrated in the spike protein.

Finally, the WHO has just declared the Indian mutant a 'global health risk' https://www.cnbc.com/2021/ 05/10/who-classifies-triple-mutant-covid-variant-from-india-as-global-health-risk-.html.

[hioctane]

 

26 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

Cannot wait for the ill conceived Hotel Association pushed at any cost Phuket Sandbox to do away with quarantine and let every one back in ....... watch the rapid implosion unfold.

It wouldn’t be everyone. It would be just the vaccinated allowed in without quarantine... and before you rebut. Yes, early studies has shown that very few vaccinated get infected (with mild symptoms) let alone have high enough viral loads to spread. 

[Henryford]

1 hour ago, miamiman123 said:

Why in the hell is a Thai woman w 3 kids doing in Pakistan during this health crisis????

read the Jonas Salk report on the CV vaccine just released

What report? he died 26 years ago.

[hioctane]

7 minutes ago, cormanr7 said:

It may be too late to stop the Indian variant. In London, almost 40%  of sequenced samples now pertain to the B 1.617.2 variant  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9561595/Coronavirus-HALF-Covid-cases-London-Indian-variant-data-suggests.html. However, the UK has a large Indian population and -until very recently- lots of flights from India which will have exacerbated the situation. Cases have been reported in numerous countries, including Indonesia (https://news.abplive.com/news/ india/indian-covid-variant-detected-in-morocco-indonesia-along-with-17-other-countries-know-why-this-variant-spread-so-fast-1456740.). Interestingly, this article claims that the indigenous Covavaxin inactivated virus vaccine (from Bharat) is effective against the mutant but it is difficult to get independent verification. Actually one could surmise that whole virus vaccines might be more effective against mutants where genomic changes are often concentrated in the spike protein.

Finally, the WHO has just declared the Indian mutant a 'global health risk' https://www.cnbc.com/2021/ 05/10/who-classifies-triple-mutant-covid-variant-from-india-as-global-health-risk-.html.

Keep in mind, it doesn’t mean the vaccinated are getting infected with it and dying from it. It is spreading faster amongst the unvaccinated. That is why it is worrisome.

[rabas]

7 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I haven't seen any data yet, showing the Indian variant is the main reason behind the recent surge in cases and deaths in India.

 

The last data I saw, released by the Indian authorities, showed that in some Indian states, including some of the most populous, the UK variant is still the predominant strain.

 

It's SOP for experts to play down variants until they have hard data.  It does not rule out the variants as the cause of such explosive outbreaks.  It means "Wait, the data is almost ready."

 

But he data is coming closer.

 

Indian CDC Says Covid Surge Is Linked To B.1.617 Variant

[ignis]

They returned from Pakistan with a stopover in Dubai, sure they were not the only passengers on those flights ?  have all the passengers been in quarantine in Dubai and here ?

[Clarkey611]

7 hours ago, tingtong said:

 

Probably?

Took test on 26th April.... posted 10th May... today....

 

What takes 14 days?

Does a test result take 14 days?

 

 

 

 

Maybe did not want to offend her religion with kids at 4, 6, 8 and one on the way!

[Bkk Brian]

44 minutes ago, rabas said:

The genome sequence was uploaded to the international GISAID data base on May 9.

 

Type:    betacoronavirus
Clade    G
Pango Lineage    B.1.617.1

Collection date:    2021-04-26

Host:    Human
Additional location information:    Travel history from Pakistan and detected on day 3rd after arrival in a state quarantine facility
Gender:    Female
Patient age:    42

 

Submission Date:    2021-05-09
Submitter:    Wacharapluesadee, Supaporn

 

For those who like to dis Thailand, Supaporn Wacharapluesadee is Thailand's own batwoman. She was the first person to sequence the SARS-2-CoV virus outside of China from a patient on Jan 8, 2020.  China had so far refused to release the genome and only did so on January 12, probably because of  Supaporn's work.

 

plus 1 there rabas

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, ronaldo0 said:

Must really have wanted to come to Thailand ! Pregnant and three kids and jets from Pakistan to Bkk via Dubai . Hassle of organising that and then cost makes me wonder why she would be so eager to come back to Thailand ????

Maybe she feels that Thailand can take better care of her if the virus is raging in Pakistan, or maybe something happened to her husband and she is coming home with the kids to have family help.  Who knows.  Either way she is a Thai national and returned to her country of origin.

[rabas]

Just now, Clarkey611 said:

Maybe did not want to offend her religion with kids at 4, 6, 8 and one on the way!

 

How many Thai will now use 468 for the lottery?

[Pravda]

The numbers are out today and they don't look good. 

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, Pravda said:

The numbers are out today and they don't look good. 

It'll be interesting to see how the numbers from the cluster in Chantaburi get reported.

 

 

[rabas]

9 minutes ago, Pravda said:

The numbers are out today and they don't look good. 

 

I see today is 1919 cases, less than it was 2 days ago, still holding the 2000 line (which is not good).

[ThailandRyan]

8 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

I see today is 1919 cases, less than it was 2 days ago, still holding the 2000 line (which is not good).

+31 deaths, so thats now the second time we have reached that milestone. Last time was May 3rd.

[Guest Harm Hendrik Reitsma]

15 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

They will survive two weeks in a hotel. Unlike many of those who get the virus. 

No Brit, Brasil, S.African OR Indian type of mutation Will be killing many, IT is less strong as the first virus strain. This was gold after they found it in Brittain, so nobody should be really at Risk, except of the sick and old people. But then they can have ivermectine and zink for getting better in the first stadium of infection.

If live healthy, het vit D and wat healthy good, you don't have a big Risk of getting very sick from any  of the virusses.

Be safe.

[adam1]

15 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

They will survive two weeks in a hotel. Unlike many of those who get the virus. 

unlike many of those who get the virus?  are you suggesting that a large percentage of the people who get the virus actually end up dying?  are you aware of the actual death % in Thailand?   It's misleading statements like this that help generate so much controversy around the nature of C19.      

[Clarkey611]

14 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

I see today is 1919 cases, less than it was 2 days ago, still holding the 2000 line (which is not good).

And with weekend testing levels?

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43 minutes ago, Henryford said:

What report? he died 26 years ago.

I believe it was published in the Ouija Board Journal of Microbiology.

[FarFlungFalang]

21 minutes ago, adam1 said:

unlike many of those who get the virus?  are you suggesting that a large percentage of the people who get the virus actually end up dying?  are you aware of the actual death % in Thailand?   It's misleading statements like this that help generate so much controversy around the nature of C19.      

I think he is suggesting many people die from or get the virus and as no mention of "large percentage" was made it seems you have misled yourself on this occasion and accused the poster of a misleading statement so perhaps a little chillout time is needed to re-read his post.

Edited May 11, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[Mike k]

51 minutes ago, Clarkey611 said:

Maybe did not want to offend her religion with kids at 4, 6, 8 and one on the way!

Who cares about her religion stopping this virus is more important 

[Mike k]

Just now, Mike k said:

Who cares about her religion stopping this virus is more important 

 

[adam1]

2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I think he is suggesting many people die from the virus and as no mention of "large percentage" was made it seems you have misled yourself on this occasion and accused the poster of a misleading statement so perhaps a little chillout time is needed to re-read his post.

if someone says that many of the people who get the virus will die, this is misleading given the actual figures...  I am perfectly chilled out, thank you.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

37 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

I see today is 1919 cases, less than it was 2 days ago, still holding the 2000 line (which is not good).

More cases than one day ago which is also not good.Might be the start of.....then again it might not.Since more is better in Thailand maybe more peaks is better than one and the more the merrier.

[4737 Carlin]

2 hours ago, miamiman123 said:

Why in the hell is a Thai woman w 3 kids doing in Pakistan during this health crisis????

read the Jonas Salk report on the CV vaccine just released

A follower of the religion of peace. 

[Raymonddiaz]

16 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Luckily, it was discovered in quaranten. However, it's probably already spread here, brought by the illegal boarder crossers. 

Luckily it wasn’t a foreigner...... 

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, ignis said:

They returned from Pakistan with a stopover in Dubai, sure they were not the only passengers on those flights ?  have all the passengers been in quarantine in Dubai and here ?

Not sure about in Dubai (if they were just changing planes they wouldn't have to quarantine) but all passengers arriving in Thailand have to go into quarantine.

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, zhounan said:

 

Perhaps you do not yet realise the social and psychological damage that these health protocols are doing on the quiet.

But we do acknowledge the benefits.

[AnnieSeek]

The India variant is going into the porous border into Myanmar, which is then coming into the porous border into Thailand.