cmarshall Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 You may have heard that Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Infectious Diseases, has “No Doubt” that actual toll is much higher than the reported 581,000 American deaths. He agreed with a University of Washington analysis making estimates of “over 900,000” deaths already with a million U.S. deaths possible before we are through this health crisis. Globally, the numbers are even more horrific. The map of total Covid deaths to reported Covid deaths. Both Thailand and China are in the most accurate group. If the new estimate is correct, then US Covid deaths have already exceeded US deaths in the 1918 Flu Pandemic, which are estimated at 675,000. http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) The map of total Covid deaths to reported Covid deaths. Both Thailand and China are in the most accurate group. If the new estimate is correct, then US Covid deaths have already exceeded US deaths in the 1918 Flu Pandemic, which are estimated at 675,000. Really ? That's interesting. Remind us... how many people in the USA in 1918 ? 103,2 millions. And in 2020 ? 331 millions. Ah okay... Last thing : how many people died (from any cause) in 2020 in USA ? 3,35 millions (source CDC) Edited May 12, 2021 by cclub75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, cclub75 said: The map of total Covid deaths to reported Covid deaths. Both Thailand and China are in the most accurate group. If the new estimate is correct, then US Covid deaths have already exceeded US deaths in the 1918 Flu Pandemic, which are estimated at 675,000. Really ? That's interesting. Remind us... how many people in the USA in 1918 ? 103,2 millions. And in 2020 ? 331 millions. Ah okay... Last thing : how many people died (from any cause) in 2020 in USA ? 3,35 millions (source CDC) Yawn. Sometimes we compare rates and sometimes we compare absolute numbers. Citing one does not imply ignoring the other. If this current estimate is correct it is the first estimate that shows the Covid deaths as exceeding the 1918 H1N1 deaths in absolute numbers. And that's worth noting. Your last point is that since 3.35 million Americans died in the US in 2020, the excess deaths due to Covid don't matter for some reason? Everyone dies anyway? Most demographers would consider a one-third increase in deaths on a national scale to be a significant event, but not you apparently. This graph shows the seasonal variation in deaths, the particularly bad flu season of 2018 that killed 61,000 people in the US compared to 5,200 the year before, and the large increase in excess deaths due to Covid. Looks significant to me. Edited May 12, 2021 by cmarshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 The title should indicate 6.9 million deaths estimated globally, found in the same study. It's not a US issue per se. Of course, 6.9 million deaths is as of now, we still do not know when this pandemic will end. From your reference: "Our analysis estimates that by May 3, 2021, the total number of COVID-19 deaths was 6.93 million, a figure that is more than two times higher than the reported number of deaths of 3.24 million." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, cclub75 said: The map of total Covid deaths to reported Covid deaths. Both Thailand and China are in the most accurate group. If the new estimate is correct, then US Covid deaths have already exceeded US deaths in the 1918 Flu Pandemic, which are estimated at 675,000. Really ? That's interesting. Remind us... how many people in the USA in 1918 ? 103,2 millions. And in 2020 ? 331 millions. Ah okay... Last thing : how many people died (from any cause) in 2020 in USA ? 3,35 millions (source CDC) Covid denier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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