Thailand reports 4,887 COVID-19 cases, 32 new deaths

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Thailand on Thursday (May 13) reported 4,887 new COVID-19 cases, and 32 additional deaths over the past 24 hours.

 

● 2,052 new infections

● 2,835 prison / prison infections

 

Thursday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 93,794 with 518 deaths.

 

The news comes as PM Prayuth, Health minister Anutin, Interior minister Anupong and Bangkok Governor Aswin visit a vaccination center in Bangkok.

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

Not good.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

[WineOh]

Here we go.

The flood gates are about to burst wide open..

 

Full lockdown on the horizon. 

I'm safe in my room with my wine????

[dinsdale]

This should raise Thailand to number 94 on the covid worldometre. No more look at us we are great stuff now. Bear in mind the almost 3,000 prisoners make the numbers because they were found out hiding them after Ms Panusaya release. These prisoners are NOT from yesterday's numbers. They were being swept under the carpet.

Edited May 13, 2021 by dinsdale

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Excerpt from a Thai Ministry of Public Health COVID cases update Thursday.

 

 

Thailand’s Total COVID Case Count Now Exceeds That of China?

 

Statistics Used by the Government Say Yes, Reality Says Likely No

 

Famous American author Mark Twain once made the now well-known observation – “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

 

That’s probably an aphorism worth remembering today with the news, depending which source is used, that Thailand’s official tally of total COVID cases, now at 93,794, has either surpassed or soon will surpass the comparable official cumulative COVID case total from China.

 

If it seems too improbable to be true that Thailand, a smaller country of only 70 million people, would somehow exceed the total COVID case count of China, the world’s most populous country with 1.4 billion people where the pandemic began, that’s probably because in all likelihood despite the statistics, it’s simply not true.

 

Even so, several widely quoted gatherers of officially reported COVID statistics tell a different story. The U.S. tracking company Worldometer as of Thursday had China with 90,808 cumulative COVID cases, a total Thailand far surpassed with the 4,887 new cases reported Thursday to reach a total of 93,794.

 

Worldometer happens to be the outside source the Thai government uses for its own publicly issued reports of how the country is faring with COVID cases compared to other world countries. Prior to Thursday’s update, Worldometer had China and Thailand ranked 96th and 98th, respectively, among 200+ countries worldwide for total COVID cases.

 

Meanwhile, the more widely cited Johns Hopkins University of Medicine in the U.S. has its stats for the two countries that suggest Thailand is less than a week away from equaling or surpassing China. That’s because Johns Hopkins has a higher tally of nearly 103,000 total cases for China compared to Worldometer.

 

In real life, the two countries present an odd and usual contrast in COVID experiences. China became the poster country for COVID after getting hit hard at the outset and then apparently recovering. Thailand, on the other hand, was largely regarded as an almost miracle country for largely avoiding COVID, until a major outbreak began last month and is continuing now.

 

As for the comparative statistics, researchers have long maintained that China’s official stats on COVID cases and deaths have likely been massively undercounted, in part due to government suppression and also to the public chaos that hit China and especially Wuhan at the start of the pandemic. Thus any such comparisons are invalid.

 

“Nobody believes China’s numbers,” said one researcher as quoted in the U.S. news outlet Time last year. Varying estimates have suggested that China’s real toll of COVID cases since the beginning could be anywhere from three to ten times higher than the official numbers.

 

Unlike last year in Wuhan China, there’s no indication that crematoriums in Thailand are running around the clock to dispose of dead bodies, nor have there been public spectacles of masses of sick people overrunning Thai hospitals, though available hospital beds in Bangkok lately have been increasingly hard to find.

 

Whereas China’s official COVID case counts exploded in early 2020 and then quickly dropped off and have remained low, Thailand went through most of last year with comparatively few cases and deaths until a so-called third wave outbreak hit at the beginning of last month.

 

Just since April 1, Thailand has officially recorded more than 60,000 of its 90,000-plus COVID cases and 392 of its 486 deaths through Wednesday. While China lately has been reporting about a dozen new cases per day, according to Worldometer, Thailand lately has been averaging about 2,000 cases per day.

 

Even with that, there are some locals who wonder whether Thailand too has been failing to identify and record all of its COVID cases due the lack of a widespread, nationwide testing program and other impediments. Thus, what largely remains to track the COVID pandemic in Thailand are…the statistics, for whatever they're worth.

 

[WineOh]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This should raise Thailand to number 94 on the covid worldometre. No more look at us we are great stuff now. 

Made me sick to my stomach the amount of gloating people did here last year.

 

what's that old saying, 'pride comes before a?......'

Edited May 13, 2021 by WineOh

[Susco]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

● 2,052 new infections

● 2,835 prison / prison infections

 

Well they couldn't sweep those prison infections under the carpet, same as they limit their testing outside to keep the numbers low.

 

I wonder what the infection ratio was in the prisons

[RotBenz8888]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Nobody believes China’s numbers,”

Does anybody believe in their vaccine? 

[keith101]

At this rate it wont be long before Thailand gets into the six figure range and over 1,000 deaths .

[Mr Meeseeks]

It was inevitable and oh so predictable. 

 

There is no social distancing at all in Chonburi. Markets are crowded as normal with ridiculous amounts of people there. The market in Naklua was rammed with people last night and motorbikes lined up like sardines in a can.

 

I don't think the average Thai understands that going to these places is a health risk or maybe they don't care.

 

Oh well, we are about to witness a major crisis IMO. 

[FarFlungFalang]

11 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Not good.

Exponential maybe?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Covid cases soar

 

The number of new Covid-19 cases announced on Thursday morning soared to a new high of 4,887, increasing from 1,983 on Wednesday, with 32 new deaths, a slight decrease from 34.

 

On Wednesday, the Department of Corrections admitted that nearly 3,000 detainees tested positive for Covid-19.

 

Of the infected inmates, 1,795 were found at the Bangkok Remand Prison and 1,040 at the Central Women’s Correctional Institution.

 

All infected prisoners have been moved to a field hospital run by the department.

 

https://www.facebook.com/TheNationThailand/posts/10157974736851937

 

 

[DLock]

Thailand did not just wake up today with 2,835 positive cases.

 

They kept it quiet, instead of manning up and adding it to the daily infected total, hoping they could contain it before they got found out.

 

Whichever way you look at it, this was an attempt at manipulating the numbers to keep them low.

 

We didn't trust your before (well, some fools did)...now we can never trust you...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

In all likelihood, the 4,887 new case tally today with the 2,835 prisons portion has to be regarded as suspect.

 

I'm not doubting that 2,835 prison inmates have tested positive for COVID.

 

But I am doubting that they all tested positive in the past 24 hours or anything close to that timeframe.

 

The number is being driven by the fact that Thai corrections officials "announced" that total yesterday officially, meaning it now needed to be included in today's official update.

 

But in all likelihood, that accumulation of COVID cases in the prisons has been building for some time. Yet those cases are all getting piled into today's one day total.

 

 

[darksidedog]

If it is in the prisons, then everyone in there is likely to get it. Even the Khlong Toey slums don't have the overcrowding the prisons have.

[Bkk Brian]

We can clearly see now that transparency in reporting the true numbers is highly questionable. How long did it take to accumulate 2,835 cases in prisons? Is it just a coincidence that they revealed these numbers only after the high profiled cases recently? What if those high profile cases hadn't be revealed would we have got these numbers now?

 

This peak naturally would not just vanish in one day and we should now start seeing a progression on this for all the daily tests carried out in those prisons, if not we know again the numbers are just not accurate.

 

More worrying, this was less than handful of prisons, what about all the other prisons throughout Thailand? When exactly are we going to know the numbers there.

 

I'm sure there's going to be a couple of posters here to try and set us straight and defend this, its going to be amusing to see your attempts.

 

This is a sad reality of the true situation in Thailand that we just got to know about, what else don't we know?

 

 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

If it is in the prisons, then everyone in there is likely to get it. Even the Khlong Toey slums don't have the overcrowding the prisons have.

And the gaurds and the office workers and their families and their friends and their friends friends etc.

[Dmaxdan]

13 minutes ago, WineOh said:

Here we go.

The flood gates are about to burst wide open..

 

Full lockdown on the horizon. 

I'm safe in my room with my wine????

2835 cases have been found in the prison system. So unless you have plans to be arrested and jailed in the near future you should be fine.  

 

The 2053 outside cases is what people need to focus on here, 

[tonray]

A very good reason to stay out of IDC...wonder what happened to the maskless "middle-finger" waving farang from last week who reportedly was caught on overstay ?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

It's possible the prison cases episode is a paradigm for the country.

 

The cases are out there all along... But they don't get officially reported until someone comes along to officially tally and report them.

 

That's what today's' episode and continuing anecdotal reports would seem to suggest.

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[tomazbodner]

May I ask the "experts" who 2 weeks ago claimed that the peak of the wave was already behind us... for their scientific comment on the current numbers.

 

Thank you.

[Sandy Bottom]

21 minutes ago, WineOh said:

 

what's that old saying, 'pride comes before a?......'

Trouist Season?

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Victornoir said:

The figures remain stable around 2,000 new cases per day excluding prisons

Are you saying this in a positive or negative light?

[SmartyMarty]

22 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Thailand’s Total COVID Case Count Now Exceeds That of China?

 

Statistics Used by the Government Say Yes, Reality Says Likely No

 

Famous American author Mark Twain once made the now well-known observation – “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

 

That’s probably an aphorism worth remembering today with the news, depending which source is used, that Thailand’s official tally of total COVID cases, now at 93,794, has either surpassed or soon will surpass the comparable official cumulative COVID case total from China.

 

If it seems too improbable to be true that Thailand, a smaller country of only 70 million people, would somehow exceed the total COVID case count of China, the world’s most populous country with 1.4 billion people where the pandemic began, that’s probably because in all likelihood despite the statistics, it’s simply not true.

 

Even so, several widely quoted gatherers of officially reported COVID statistics tell a different story. The U.S. tracking company Worldometer as of Wednesday had China with 90,799 cumulative COVID cases, a total Thailand far surpassed with the 4,887 new cases reported Thursday to reach a total of 93,794.

 

Worldometer happens to be the outside source the Thai government uses for its own publicly issued reports of how the country is faring with COVID cases compared to other world countries. Prior to Thursday’s update, Worldometer had China and Thailand ranked 96th and 98th, respectively, among 200+ countries worldwide for total COVID cases.

 

Meanwhile, the more widely cited Johns Hopkins University of Medicine in the U.S. has its stats for the two countries that suggest Thailand is less than a week away from equaling or surpassing China. That’s because Johns Hopkins has a higher tally of nearly 103,000 total cases for China compared to Worldometer.

 

In real life, the two countries present an odd and usual contrast in COVID experiences. China became the poster country for COVID after getting hit hard at the outset and then apparently recovering. Thailand, on the other hand, was largely regarded as an almost miracle country for largely avoiding COVID, until a major outbreak began last month and is continuing now.

 

As for the comparative statistics, researchers have long maintained that China’s official stats on COVID cases and deaths have likely been massively undercounted, in part due to government suppression and also to the public chaos that hit China and especially Wuhan at the start of the pandemic.

 

“Nobody believes China’s numbers,” said one researcher as quoted in the U.S. news outlet Time last year. Varying estimates have suggested that China’s real toll of COVID cases since the beginning could be anywhere from three to ten times higher than the official numbers.

 

Unlike last year in Wuhan China, there’s no indication that crematoriums in Thailand are running around the clock to dispose of dead bodies, nor have there been public spectacles of masses of sick people overrunning Thai hospitals, though available hospital beds in Bangkok lately have been increasingly hard to find.

 

Whereas China’s official COVID case counts exploded in early 2020 and then quickly dropped off and have remained low, Thailand went through most of last year with comparatively few cases and deaths until a so-called third wave outbreak hit at the beginning of last month.

 

Just since April 1, Thailand has officially recorded more than 60,000 of its 90,000-plus COVID cases and 392 of its 486 deaths through Wednesday. While China lately has been reporting about a dozen new cases per day, according to Worldometer, Thailand lately has been averaging about 2,000 cases per day.

 

Even with that, there are some locals who wonder whether Thailand too has been failing to identify and record all of its COVID cases due the lack of a widespread, nationwide testing program and other impediments. Thus, what largely remains to track the COVID pandemic in Thailand are…the statistics.

 

we can speculate all we want about china's numbers, but we'll never know for sure. 

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, tomazbodner said:

May I ask the "experts" who 2 weeks ago claimed that the peak of the wave was already behind us... for their scientific comment on the current numbers.

 

Thank you.

Outside of prisons, the numbers have flatlined.

[Mr Meeseeks]

14 minutes ago, DLock said:

Thailand did not just wake up today with 2,835 positive cases.

 

They kept it quiet, instead of manning up and adding it to the daily infected total, hoping they could contain it before they got found out.

 

Whichever way you look at it, this was an attempt at manipulating the numbers to keep them low.

 

We didn't trust your before (well, some fools did)...now we can never trust you...

All governments lie but unaccountable governments lie with total impunity.

[cyril sneer]

6 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

2835 cases have been found in the prison system. So unless you have plans to be arrested and jailed in the near future you should be fine.  

 

The 2053 outside cases is what people need to focus on here, 

problem is, people won't

[tomazbodner]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Outside of prisons, the numbers have flatlined.

Sort of. Basically increase is linear instead of exponential, which is better than what it was. That's not a flatline, though.