Thailand reports 4,887 COVID-19 cases, 32 new deaths

[anchadian]

PR Thai Government

Thailand government organization

 

https://twitter.com/prdthailand/status/1392751471133827072

 

CCSA has revealed what it considers the high-risk groups who have a high chance of mortality when they get infected with #COVID19. Those who have a high risk should strictly follow the prevention guidelines and measures.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Update from the BMA on the numbers of recent COVID cluster locations in the BKK area along with positive case numbers for each location. I believe the second number for each location is the number of tests conducted there.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/earthpongsakornk/posts/521102699299630

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sapson]

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

PR Thai Government

Thailand government organization

 

https://twitter.com/prdthailand/status/1392751471133827072

 

CCSA has revealed what it considers the high-risk groups who have a high chance of mortality when they get infected with #COVID19. Those who have a high risk should strictly follow the prevention guidelines and measures.

 

 

 

Very reassuring can probably manage 3 out the seven! 

[Danderman123]

56 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Not sure if this has been said already so apologies if it has. How many infected prisoners have been released back into the general population in say, the last 7 days ?? 

Probably zero.

[anchadian]

Authorities ordered closure of a construction worker camp, run by Italian-Thai Development Plc. in Bangkok’s Laksi district after the mass testing found 196 people being infected with Covid-19.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1392763790379286528

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Outside of prisons, the numbers have flatlined.

Heard  it's  the same on Mars  to.

[Rampant Rabbit]

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Probably zero.

How many prison officers  go  home everynight to their wives  families .

[anchadian]

38 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

1st July is still on...............honest!

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/phuket-to-open-to-fully-vaccinated-covid-19-free-foreign-tourists-without-quarantine-in-july/

 

Phuket to open to fully vaccinated, COVID-19 free foreign tourists without quarantine in July

 

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) will proceed with its plans to attract foreign tourists to the resort island of Phuket, without compulsory quarantine, starting July 1st this year, with flight promotions as an incentive.

 

The plan offers the first quarantine-free option for international arrivals in Thailand since the pandemic started last year, to help the crippled tourism industry.

 

The TAT aims to attract 129,000 visitors to Thailand in the third quarter of this year, through the “Phuket Sandbox” project, where fully vaccinated tourists, who have tested negative for COVID-19, can visit Phuket for a minimum period of seven days, before travelling to other provinces with airports, TAT governor Yuthasak Supasorn said today (Thursday).

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Golden Triangle said:

Not sure if this has been said already so apologies if it has. How many infected prisoners have been released back into the general population in say, the last 7 days ?? 

Well we know of 2 or 3 high profile ones already thats why this all got exposed, so how many others is anyone's guess

[anchadian]

Read more:

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27472/ministry-denies-covering-up-prison-covid-19-outbreak/

 

Ministry denies covering up prison Covid-19 outbreak

 

The Ministry of Justice on Thursday denied that authorities have underplayed the number of prison inmates who have been infected with the coronavirus.

 

“There is definitely no coverup,” said Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin.

 

Officials said the discovery of thousands of cases this week is because the royal institution had provided them with the means to test all inmates at the two Bangkok prisons which are crowded and understaffed.

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

2835 cases have been found in the prison system. So unless you have plans to be arrested and jailed in the near future you should be fine.  

 

The 2053 outside cases is what people need to focus on here, 

 

Not quite. As those with a less blinkered view have pointed out in this thread, it doesn't only involve prisoners. Those prisons also have dozens or more staff who have been mixing with the prisoners and then taking the virus home with them to spread among their family and friends. And I would venture that the families of what are no doubt low-paid staff do most of their shopping in the still-crowded markets where precautions are sometimes lax. It's a time-bomb.

[anchadian]

 

The Corrections Department sealed off all areas in the Bangkok Remand Prison and applied video conferences for detention procedures. https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-695800…

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1392770363105284097

 

[looplaw]

2 hours ago, malibukid said:

chillin with my cat

????Meow!

[KhaoYai]

7 hours ago, dinsdale said:

They were being swept under the carpet.

Like thousands more previously.

[Travel Dude]

If Bangkok has about 1000 cases a day and the Bangkok population is 12 million then that's 0,008 % infections in Bangkok.

I personally know 5 people who got Covid, of all the people I know. 

[edwardandtubs]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I heard many predictions as well, a particular one doing the rounds for a couple of weeks being that we were over the peak, its over and Thailand has contained it.

We peaked at over 2,800 cases a day several weeks ago. Today's cases included the prisoner numbers since the start of April so don't relate to daily cases.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 minute ago, madmitch said:

It's no different to reporting someone dying seven days after eating fermented fish (a scenario that could be just as likely!).

Just smelling that puts me into a coma, I wouldn't live for 5 mins after eating that in fact I couldn't eat it if I was alive I would have to be dead before eating it even then I would probably refuse.

[edwardandtubs]

6 minutes ago, madmitch said:

And it's this type of scaremongering that stopping so many Thai people from registering for the vaccine.

 

It's no different to reporting someone dying seven days after eating fermented fish (a scenario that could be just as likely!).

Or indeed 7 days after having a 5 knuckle shuffle. It doesn't prove a causal relationship at all.

Edited May 13, 2021 by edwardandtubs

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

We peaked at over 2,800 cases a day several weeks ago. Today's cases included the prisoner numbers since the start of April so don't relate to daily cases.

We peaked again today far higher, its no longer twin peak period. They do indeed relate to the overall statistics, as much as you'd prefer they didn't. 

[edwardandtubs]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

We peaked again today far higher, its no longer twin peak period. They do indeed relate to the overall statistics, as much as you'd prefer they didn't. 

Only for a total pedant. The reality is they weren't reporting the prison statistics but suddenly changed their mind and decided to report them all the same day. It doesn't reflect new cases diagnosed yesterday, which remain at approximately 2,000.

Edited May 13, 2021 by edwardandtubs

[Fex Bluse]

1 hour ago, Tonypandy said:

The difference is China went into a real lockdown, not this pretending one in Thailand. 

 

They've also had millions of deaths.

[ourmanflint]

2 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Only for a total pedant. The reality is they weren't reporting the prison statistics but suddenly changed their mind and decided to report them all the same day. It doesn't reflect new cases diagnosed yesterday, which remain at approximately 2,000.

Which only goes to prove the daily numbers are utterly meaningless. They add what they want and ignore what they don’t want

[joecoolfrog]

7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Excerpt from a Thai Ministry of Public Health COVID cases update Thursday.

 

 

Thailand’s Total COVID Case Count Now Exceeds That of China?

 

Statistics Used by the Government Say Yes, Reality Says Likely No

 

Famous American author Mark Twain once made the now well-known observation – “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

 

That’s probably an aphorism worth remembering today with the news, depending which source is used, that Thailand’s official tally of total COVID cases, now at 93,794, has either surpassed or soon will surpass the comparable official cumulative COVID case total from China.

 

If it seems too improbable to be true that Thailand, a smaller country of only 70 million people, would somehow exceed the total COVID case count of China, the world’s most populous country with 1.4 billion people where the pandemic began, that’s probably because in all likelihood despite the statistics, it’s simply not true.

 

Even so, several widely quoted gatherers of officially reported COVID statistics tell a different story. The U.S. tracking company Worldometer as of Thursday had China with 90,808 cumulative COVID cases, a total Thailand far surpassed with the 4,887 new cases reported Thursday to reach a total of 93,794.

 

Worldometer happens to be the outside source the Thai government uses for its own publicly issued reports of how the country is faring with COVID cases compared to other world countries. Prior to Thursday’s update, Worldometer had China and Thailand ranked 96th and 98th, respectively, among 200+ countries worldwide for total COVID cases.

 

Meanwhile, the more widely cited Johns Hopkins University of Medicine in the U.S. has its stats for the two countries that suggest Thailand is less than a week away from equaling or surpassing China. That’s because Johns Hopkins has a higher tally of nearly 103,000 total cases for China compared to Worldometer.

 

In real life, the two countries present an odd and usual contrast in COVID experiences. China became the poster country for COVID after getting hit hard at the outset and then apparently recovering. Thailand, on the other hand, was largely regarded as an almost miracle country for largely avoiding COVID, until a major outbreak began last month and is continuing now.

 

As for the comparative statistics, researchers have long maintained that China’s official stats on COVID cases and deaths have likely been massively undercounted, in part due to government suppression and also to the public chaos that hit China and especially Wuhan at the start of the pandemic. Thus any such comparisons are invalid.

 

“Nobody believes China’s numbers,” said one researcher as quoted in the U.S. news outlet Time last year. Varying estimates have suggested that China’s real toll of COVID cases since the beginning could be anywhere from three to ten times higher than the official numbers.

 

Unlike last year in Wuhan China, there’s no indication that crematoriums in Thailand are running around the clock to dispose of dead bodies, nor have there been public spectacles of masses of sick people overrunning Thai hospitals, though available hospital beds in Bangkok lately have been increasingly hard to find.

 

Whereas China’s official COVID case counts exploded in early 2020 and then quickly dropped off and have remained low, Thailand went through most of last year with comparatively few cases and deaths until a so-called third wave outbreak hit at the beginning of last month.

 

Just since April 1, Thailand has officially recorded more than 60,000 of its 90,000-plus COVID cases and 392 of its 486 deaths through Wednesday. While China lately has been reporting about a dozen new cases per day, according to Worldometer, Thailand lately has been averaging about 2,000 cases per day.

 

Even with that, there are some locals who wonder whether Thailand too has been failing to identify and record all of its COVID cases due the lack of a widespread, nationwide testing program and other impediments. Thus, what largely remains to track the COVID pandemic in Thailand are…the statistics, for whatever they're worth.

 

I doubt many people believe the Chinese numbers , The Thai numbers reflect the relatively low level of testing.

These country comparison charts simply cant be taken at face value, very misleading.

[Megasin1]

16 minutes ago, madmitch said:

And it's this type of scaremongering that stopping so many Thai people from registering for the vaccine.

 

It's no different to reporting someone dying seven days after eating fermented fish (a scenario that could be just as likely!).

Not really, it all comes back to testing. If you have had Covid symptoms you shouldn't receive a vaccine until at least 4 weeks after the symptoms have gone, so if you are asymptomatic, but untested, you are likely placing yourself at additional risk by being vaccinated. You see reports, one recently of Thailand rushing the vaccine into an outbreak area, this doesn't sound like the right policy to me. The right policy would seem to be lockdown, mass testing and applying the vaccine in a managed way to the highest risk groups, not infected groups. So someone infected, then having a vaccine on top of the infection could quite possibly die 7 days later.

[Dogmatix]

“There is definitely no coverup,” said Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin.

 

This is a man of the highest integrity whose word is his bond.  We also had no trouble believing him about the 500 kg ketamine that miraculously turned to flour.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, edwardandtubs said:

Only for a total pedant. The reality is they weren't reporting the prison statistics but suddenly changed their mind and decided to report them all the same day. It doesn't reflect new cases diagnosed yesterday, which remain at approximately 2,000.

How do you know how many cases there were yesterday of any other day if these were not announced till today and accumulated?

 

How do you know the peak could not have been last week or the week before?

 

You don't and the fact is they were announced today so I'm afraid that is the national historical count. 

[brewsterbudgen]

8 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Only for a total pedant. The reality is they weren't reporting the prison statistics but suddenly changed their mind and decided to report them all the same day. It doesn't reflect new cases diagnosed yesterday, which remain at approximately 2,000.

Ignoring the prison outbreak, the numbers have been steady for over a week now.  Surely time to start opening up?  Numbers could stay like this for months!

[joecoolfrog]

7 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

Which only goes to prove the daily numbers are utterly meaningless. They add what they want and ignore what they don’t want

Even without manipulation one needs mass testing ( hundreds of thousands of tests daily ) to enable effective data and reasonably accurate numbers.

Edited May 13, 2021 by joecoolfrog

[joecoolfrog]

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Ignoring the prison outbreak, the numbers have been steady for over a week now.  Surely time to start opening up?  Numbers could stay like this for months!

Numbers will broadly align with tests performed , meaningless at the current level.

[CLW]

7 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

“There is definitely no coverup,” said Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin.

 

This is a man of the highest integrity whose word is his bond.  We also had no trouble believing him about the 500 kg ketamine that miraculously turned to flour.

From past experience, normally if a Thai politician comes up with a quote like that, in reality it's the complete opposite...