Must Read Thailand reports 3,095 COVID-19 cases, 17 new deaths

[wensiensheng]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

#BREAKING Starting Monday, restaurants in BKK, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, and Samut Prakan will be allowed to offer dine-in services at 25 percent of seating capacity until 9pm. Restaurants in other 17 "Red Zone" provinces will be allowed until 11pm without seating limitations.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1393550349575720960

 

How will they monitor the 25% capacity rule? It’s just something else that will be mostly ignored. And in deep red zones as well.

I really don’t think it’s a wise move, but presumably some pressure was brought to bear somewhere. Hard to believe medical health professionals would have suggested or recommended this.

[wensiensheng]

20 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

 

The department manages 143 or 144 central prisons, provincial prisons, district prisons and other correctional facilities across Thailand, housing some 45,796 female (13.7 percent) and 288,483 male prisoners. Overcrowding has been reported at 143 prisons

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Corrections_(Thailand)#:~:text=The department manages 143 or,been reported at 143 prisons.

“143 or 144”  prisons and overcrowding at 143 of them? Did I read that right?

 

so in other words, every prison in Thailand is overcrowded, give or take 1 prison that may or may not exist!

[anchadian]

The Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has warned people in Bangkok to take COVID-19 prevention measures seriously, after group testing in some areas found an average of five in every 100 were infected.

 

CCSA spokesman Dr. Thaveesilp Visanuyothin said active case finding in many locations in the capital have returned positive rates ranging from 0.79% to 10.53%, or 4.95% on average. Tests on May 12th covered 7,247 people and 359 of them were positive.

 

He said community testing was done at Thupatemi stadium, the Thai-Japanese youth centre and a central market in Din Daeng district, schools and communities in Khlong Toey district, the Silom community and other locations in the Huai Khwang, Rong Muang and Laksi areas.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158016782462050

[anchadian]

New color-coded zone map of provinces:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158017066597050

[Danderman123]

49 minutes ago, anchadian said:

#BREAKING Starting Monday, restaurants in BKK, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, and Samut Prakan will be allowed to offer dine-in services at 25 percent of seating capacity until 9pm. Restaurants in other 17 "Red Zone" provinces will be allowed until 11pm without seating limitations.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1393550349575720960

 

I saw people eating in restaurants in Chonburi tonight.

[brewsterbudgen]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I saw people eating in restaurants in Chonburi tonight.

Yes, it seems some places have jumped the gun!

[Swimfan]

48 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

“143 or 144”  prisons and overcrowding at 143 of them? Did I read that right?

 

so in other words, every prison in Thailand is overcrowded, give or take 1 prison that may or may not exist!

According to Wikipedia the prison system was built to accommodate 211k inmates but houses 374k inmates so approximately 75% over capacity 

[DavisH]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Well that's using their discretion obviously.

That's for (obviously poor) Thais who simply couldn't pay 6k for a fine. 

But they think 6K is chump change for a farang, so expect to pay:) 

[dinsdale]

Tomorrows numbers will be high. Thailand will go to 91 on the covid worldometer with >3000 new cases. Something is about to hit the fan.

Edited May 15, 2021 by dinsdale

[brewsterbudgen]

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Tomorrows numbers will be high. Thailand will go to 91 on the covid worldometer with >3000 new cases. Something is about to hit the fan.

Really?  Take out the unfortunate prison outbreaks and rates seem fairly stable.  Otherwise why start relaxing the restrictions as they have done today?  Hopefully you're being unduly pessimistic!

[dinsdale]

16 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Really?  Take out the unfortunate prison outbreaks and rates seem fairly stable.  Otherwise why start relaxing the restrictions as they have done today?  Hopefully you're being unduly pessimistic!

You will see. It's already out there in the press. 1,219 prisoners. Outside the prisons BKK certain areas 10% infection rate. Average 5%. This thing spreads very fast. Maybe all up across BKK less than 1% of the entire population. Maybe more 1% being around 100,000 infected people. I would think maybe less but even 0.5% is still 50,000. We can't know because they don't mass test.

 

Edited May 15, 2021 by dinsdale

[AndyFoxy]

16 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Really?  Take out the unfortunate prison outbreaks and rates seem fairly stable.  Otherwise why start relaxing the restrictions as they have done today?  Hopefully you're being unduly pessimistic!

Stable at around 2K a day. Is that a good thing?

[wensiensheng]

2 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Stable at around 2K a day. Is that a good thing?

Quite severe restrictions in place but certainly in Bangkok they don’t appear to be reining the virus in if you go by case count alone. Status quo is about the best you could say.
 

Could go either way in my opinion. restrictions  may slowly slowly pull the case numbers down, or so many clusters may develop that the virus breaks out and cases go up, perhaps significantly.

 

the trouble with lockdown light, is that it becomes lock down long. People then get fatigued by it and start ignoring the restrictions. 

[brewsterbudgen]

7 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Stable at around 2K a day. Is that a good thing?

Better than increasing, so in a global pandemic, relatively speaking, yes I think it's good.  It would be much better if it were declining though.  At least the exponential post-Songkran predictions have not materialised, so we can be grateful for that too.

[brewsterbudgen]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

Quite severe restrictions in place but certainly in Bangkok they don’t appear to be reining the virus in if you go by case count alone. Status quo is about the best you could say.
 

Could go either way in my opinion. restrictions  may slowly slowly pull the case numbers down, or so many clusters may develop that the virus breaks out and cases go up, perhaps significantly.

 

the trouble with lockdown light, is that it becomes lock down long. People then get fatigued by it and start ignoring the restrictions. 

 Then why are they just about to announce a relaxation of some restrictions?  

[Caldera]

So now they're going to add one prison per day to the nationwide tally? That the idea?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

41 minutes ago, Caldera said:

So now they're going to add one prison per day to the nationwide tally? That the idea?

 

That's why I asked above how many prisons there might be across the country (already answered above)...

 

At the rate they're going, we're gonna be doing this for a VERY long time.... ????

Edited May 15, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[longway]

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

The Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has warned people in Bangkok to take COVID-19 prevention measures seriously, after group testing in some areas found an average of five in every 100 were infected.

 

CCSA spokesman Dr. Thaveesilp Visanuyothin said active case finding in many locations in the capital have returned positive rates ranging from 0.79% to 10.53%, or 4.95% on average. Tests on May 12th covered 7,247 people and 359 of them were positive.

 

He said community testing was done at Thupatemi stadium, the Thai-Japanese youth centre and a central market in Din Daeng district, schools and communities in Khlong Toey district, the Silom community and other locations in the Huai Khwang, Rong Muang and Laksi areas.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158016782462050

Isn't it clear by now this is not a new 'wave', but the recent visibility is just a by-product of a more severe strain. It just does not make sense that the whole se asia sucessfully 'controlled' the virus. Far more likely most of asia was larely immune to the original strain of the virus, but new variants sometimes make its endemic nature more evident.

 

Even in this new 'wave' deaths are already stabilising.

 

Many reading this will have already been infected. I live near don muang with my family and we were all sick around jan 2020 with throat infections. Im pretty sure that was covid. I had a positive pcr test in feb in mexico, but not a single symptom.

Edited May 15, 2021 by longway

[sungod]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

At least the exponential post-Songkran predictions have not materialised, so we can be grateful for that too.

 

A month on and the usual doomsayer's predictions have been busted. Wonder what doom porn they can come up with next?

[Blumpie]

5 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

A month on and the usual doomsayer's predictions have been busted. Wonder what doom porn they can come up with next?

Maybe just open everything up then right?

To find out how much its spreading you need the r factor.  Anything over 1 and it's spreading.  Is it there in the four pages of graphs, statistics, and logarithms of dogs to cat ratios?  I can't bear to pour through it!  

[sungod]

22 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

Maybe just open everything up then right?

To find out how much its spreading you need the r factor.  Anything over 1 and it's spreading.  Is it there in the four pages of graphs, statistics, and logarithms of dogs to cat ratios?  I can't bear to pour through it!  

Didn't suggest opening everything up........ Just said it has not turned out as many had bleated about everyday for for the last month!!! ????

Edited May 15, 2021 by sungod

[Blumpie]

30 minutes ago, sungod said:

Didn't suggest opening everything up........ Just said it has not turned out as many had bleated about everyday for for the last month!!! ????

I get what you're throwing on the flip side.

It's way too early to say how anything is going to turn out.  It's stable at 2k per day.  Stay tuned.

What I, you, or the person who thinks that the world will end really doesn't matter.  What will happen will happen.  

How's that for the worst uncle tom opinion barfing on the forum?  

[ExpatOilWorker]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

 

A month on and the usual doomsayer's predictions have been busted. Wonder what doom porn they can come up with next?

Early January we had the migrant workers in Samut Sakhon outbreak, but that was just them, not us.

Schools were closed for 2 weeks, but by February life was back to normal up until early April.

Then, the below happened. We are still not out of the woods yet.

 

At Thammasat University Hospital, about 20 miles north of Bangkok, doctors are scrambling to treat COVID-19 patients streaming in. Nearby, extra beds have been crammed in to a student dormitory block, turning it into a field hospital that can accommodate an additional 470 patients.
 
“We don’t have enough beds, we don’t have enough ventilators,” Anucha Apisarnthanarak, the chief of the infectious diseases division at the hospital, tells TIME. “This is only my hospital, but of course there are a lot more hospitals experiencing the same problem.”

[Marvin Hagler]

7 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

At least the exponential post-Songkran predictions have not materialised, so we can be grateful for that too.

What planet are you living on? They are materialising right before our eyes...are you blind? Can you not add 1 and 1 together for yourself or do you need someone to hold your hand and tell you what to believe?

[starky]

Another day of double digit deaths and we still have fools on here saying don't trust vaccines covid hardly killing anyone.....

It's all a big conspiracy yeah right.

Edited May 15, 2021 by starky

[FarFlungFalang]

7 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 Then why are they just about to announce a relaxation of some restrictions?  

Money, people need money to buy food in Bangkok, if too many people are having difficulties and the Gov doesn't pay like in richer countries then they'll have to ease the restrictions so people can feed themselves otherwise they'll have to deal with the problem of hungry and angry people.

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 Then why are they just about to announce a relaxation of some restrictions?  

It's all about money and businesses going down the drain. 3rd wave is causing a massive economic issue.

[Suua]

8 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

the trouble with lockdown light, is that it becomes lock down long. People then get fatigued by it and start ignoring the restrictions. 

In the meantime, the virus will be mutating into the 'Thai Variant'

[ThailandRyan]

6 hours ago, sungod said:

 

A month on and the usual doomsayer's predictions have been busted. Wonder what doom porn they can come up with next?

Hmm, yeah right. Nothing has happened, hospitals are not full, many not on ventilators, people are not dying, large clusters of cases not being found, oh and everyone is vaccinated. What planet do you live on.  You don't like to say sorry the folks were right that the Songkran travel caused a major mess and its continuing on every day.  Look at the Stats posted daily and tell me again nothing occurred.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said:

What planet are you living on? They are materialising right before our eyes...are you blind? Can you not add 1 and 1 together for yourself or do you need someone to hold your hand and tell you what to believe?

I live on the planet where most provinces have very low infection numbers.