placnx Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: The herd immunity is a nice theory, but there is 0 country in the world having reached this level so far and the news from the Seychelles are not very promising: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/13/seychelles-most-vaccinated-nation-on-earth-but-covid-19-has-surged.html The news suggests that herd immunity cannot be reached with Chinese vaccine. The results from Israel are pointing toward herd immunity, but I guess that youngsters have not yet been vaccinated. Edited May 16, 2021 by placnx news from Israel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Magenta408 said: Just let them walk into hospitals like everyone else. Why centers for the jab? I tend to ask when? Maybe because you don't want lots of potentially infected people entering a hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkie Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I would caution against having the Sinovac vaccine if you intend to travel to countries where proof of vaccination is required. Most do not recognise Sinovac at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx101 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Percy P said: I don't think so, just have the jab, it doesn't hurt. Weird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx101 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Percy P said: I don't think so, just have the jab, it doesn't hurt. Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millcx Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 8:21 AM, Dmaxdan said: Good news indeed! It won't be long before they will be offering us free, one year visa extensions with every jab! Only in your Dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: I also don't trust their government, but facts are facts. China has done a great job handling the virus. As previously mentioned it is amazing that you have those statistics in your head but never share your source of information from. Just exactly where do you get "they have done a great job from" and second, these are the same people told the World Health Organization that they could not find any clear evidence of human to human transmission. Perhaps that is because they are so sparsely populated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just now, Thomas J said: As previously mentioned it is amazing that you have those statistics in your head but never share your source of information from. Just exactly where do you get "they have done a great job from" and second, these are the same people told the World Health Organization that they could not find any clear evidence of human to human transmission. Perhaps that is because they are so sparsely populated? It's amazing that you believe there would be a serious covid problem in China and word not get out. China is not North Korea. It's an industrial powerhouse and as such is highly engaged with the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 However, he said that in principle, expats in Thailand will be able to receive the vaccine at one of the many walk-in centres that will be set up throughout the country. And be sinovated into the bargin. What more could you posibly want??????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looplaw Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, vandeventer said: What the government said all sounds good as long as we have a choice of vaccines. And who knows they might even have a drive-in vaccine center with pretty young girls that speak English jabbing the hell out of us. A Jab with a happy ending. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 2:37 PM, NCC1701A said: i will just move from safe house to safe house until it gets here. I have safe in my house, its bit small but I could rent I out at a negotiated price!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Xonax said: With the extremely low fatality rate in Thailand in mind, I guess that the risk of dying from blood clots, after having the Sinovac or AZ vaccines, are almost equal to the risk of dying from Covid 19? I will personally wait another 5 months or more to get Moderna or Pfizer jabs. You are a wise man. We know nothing about the long term effects of any of the vaccines. If I am going to take a risk in getting a jab it only makes sense to go with one that has the highest reported covid effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, looplaw said: A Jab with a happy ending. A blow jab ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 2:53 PM, RichardColeman said: With no tourists, Thailand should try looking after retirees better. I would imagine that the average age of retirees is at least 60. Based on that and average life expectancy of say a reasonable 85, that would mean 4% odd of retirees are dying each year. By easter next year , if they are still not open, near 10% of retirees would have died whilst the country is closed and not been replaced - that will have a knock on effect too. Thank you for those encouraging words, especially for those of us in our twilight years. I shall remember to haunt you the remainder of your days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Fairfield said: This means that in principle, foreigners will be able to use the walk in vaccination services as soon as they are up and running and the locations are confirmed. It will not be that easy, it never is. What's the betting that you will need to produce a Certificate of Residence from Immigration before you 'walk in'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: The app links to external databases and does identity verification based on ID cards. Not at all simple to convert it to one that allows for multiple types of identification. Note that many migrant workers (the largest group of foreigner) do nto have passports and there is more than one type of identification they may have. Correct I suspect he database holding Thai ID card numbers will be completely separate from any database holding a foreign passport number. Looking up a passport number will be done, probably with a link to Immigration department data. A separate app makes sense, and can use the same logic and some code as the original Thai one to book appointments. If they are for apppointments at the new English speaking centres then the database of vaccine locations will also need to be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, looplaw said: A Jab with a happy ending. that could be a Phoojab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, placeholder said: It's amazing that you believe there would be a serious covid problem in China and word not get out. China is not North Korea. It's an industrial powerhouse and as such is highly engaged with the world. what utter nonsense. Its a lying, secretive, obstructionist, power crazy, xenophobic, untrustworthy, criminal State, that is directly responsible for this covid pandemic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdavo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 becoming a joke on this site, as soon as i see a headline i know the crying whinging people will be all over it, no vaccines, poor us, some vaccines for locals? What about expats? How much will they charge us expats? Then vaccines for expats, not the right vaccine for you, then free vaccines for expats and you still complain, any wonder locals say if you dont like it, go home. Be grateful for once. Just one time appreciate that you cryers are even in the conversation. Free vaccines are available take it, you dont know whats in your flu jab or what the tablets you take everyday are made from you just take them, now everyones an expert in medicine ???? lets not forget the people that say " do your research" a few unsubstantiated youtube videos from some unqualified muppet, who also watched some youtube videos, and now they are experts. Just take the vaccine and maybe the country that allows you to stay here can try and reopen and give the nation some hope of a tourist future, jobs to feed families, and schools to educate your kids as well as their own. Thank you i love you all ???????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, placnx said: The news suggests that herd immunity cannot be reached with Chinese vaccine. The results from Israel are pointing toward herd immunity, but I guess that youngsters have not yet been vaccinated. That is the one problem that herd immunity couldn't technically be reached. "Technically" because isn't great at preventing infection but it is potent at protecting one from serious illness and death. So ultimately, one would want to take one of the mRNA vaccines. But until the time comes when they are available, it makes very strong sense to take the Sinovac if that's all that's on offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Pilotman said: what utter nonsense. Its a lying, secretive, obstructionist, power crazy, xenophobic, untrustworthy, criminal State, that is directly responsible for this covid pandemic. Whatever the truth of that may be, it would be impossible to hide the fact that hospitals are overflowing with covid patients given the large number of westerners who live throughout China. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Whatever the truth of that may be, it would be impossible to hide the fact that hospitals are overflowing with covid patients given the large number of westerners who live throughout China. I will concede that they had more time to develop a vaccine, as they kept the outbreak of Covid 19 a secret for so long after it broke out and even silenced its own doctors/scientists who tried to blow the whistle and tell the World. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 2:33 PM, CLW said: I did a google search and found out that those idiots from a certain newspaper that can not be named are obvioulsy not able to distinguish between Central Plaza Shopping Center and Centara Grand Hotel As a journalist, I've worked at some events in Thailand with local reporters. Not one of them would last a week in the real world. I saw one of them make three factual errors in his opening paragraph, which takes some doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender19 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 2:33 PM, mtls2005 said: Feel like I'm watching a table tennis match. Walk-in centers now back on the table, after being off, after being on. More like a tennis match Government 15. Farang love. 15 all Government 30 farang 15 30 all Government 40 farang 30 Deuce . Advantage government and so it goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kingdavo said: becoming a joke on this site, as soon as i see a headline i know the crying whinging people will be all over it, no vaccines, poor us, some vaccines for locals? What about expats? How much will they charge us expats? Then vaccines for expats, not the right vaccine for you, then free vaccines for expats and you still complain, any wonder locals say if you dont like it, go home. Be grateful for once. Just one time appreciate that you cryers are even in the conversation. Free vaccines are available take it, you dont know whats in your flu jab or what the tablets you take everyday are made from you just take them, now everyones an expert in medicine ???? lets not forget the people that say " do your research" a few unsubstantiated youtube videos from some unqualified muppet, who also watched some youtube videos, and now they are experts. Just take the vaccine and maybe the country that allows you to stay here can try and reopen and give the nation some hope of a tourist future, jobs to feed families, and schools to educate your kids as well as their own. Thank you i love you all ???????? Hallelujah brother ! Welcome to the forum. You will soon learn thats its all about them and their needs and not the Thai people. Edited May 16, 2021 by Kadilo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, lavender19 said: More like a tennis match Government 15. Farang love. 15 all Government 30 farang 15 30 all Government 40 farang 30 Deuce . Advantage government and so it goes on Maybe, but the foreigner will never break serve to win the match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Many Thais do not want the Sinovac vaccine. Govt now turning to foreigners to reduce the surplus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiujunn Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Pilotman said: what utter nonsense. Its a lying, secretive, obstructionist, power crazy, xenophobic, untrustworthy, criminal State, that is directly responsible for this covid pandemic. ...a state that has been built by Western money moving there. First it was the Taiwanese companies who moved their production to the mainland in the nineties, then American capital followed (you know that almost every physical object you touched today is from China?) and now the EU supports them (Ms Merkel just happily concluded an agreement with China). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiujunn Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I will concede that they had more time to develop a vaccine, as they kept the outbreak of Covid 19 a secret for so long after it broke out and even silenced its own doctors/scientists who tried to blow the whistle and tell the World. Taiwan told the world in December 2019. The world didn't want to listen. Business with China was good (not only for tourism in Thailand) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kingdavo said: becoming a joke on this site, as soon as i see a headline i know the crying whinging people will be all over it, no vaccines, poor us, some vaccines for locals? What about expats? How much will they charge us expats? Then vaccines for expats, not the right vaccine for you, then free vaccines for expats and you still complain, any wonder locals say if you dont like it, go home. Be grateful for once. Just one time appreciate that you cryers are even in the conversation. Free vaccines are available take it, you dont know whats in your flu jab or what the tablets you take everyday are made from you just take them, now everyones an expert in medicine ???? lets not forget the people that say " do your research" a few unsubstantiated youtube videos from some unqualified muppet, who also watched some youtube videos, and now they are experts. Just take the vaccine and maybe the country that allows you to stay here can try and reopen and give the nation some hope of a tourist future, jobs to feed families, and schools to educate your kids as well as their own. Thank you i love you all ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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