1FinickyOne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: 4 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: I've never seen more than one older ladyboy ( I have to wonder why ) Because many have given up the cross dressing etc by the time they are hitting 40 and getting bald but if you look around, they are there, usually quietly existing... in my last condo there was one who never spoke - the other maintenance people were very friendly... it is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: Not all LBs retain their penis, many fully transition Then they wouldn't be called ladyboys? Right? Are they transgenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, 1FinickyOne said: I can't even imagine what you are trying to say here... a more interesting question might be a genetic variant as they often tend to be tall and trim... I think they are born that way, nothing environmental about it... It might be genetic, it might be environmental. Although I would have thought genetic would run into the law of diminishing returns. Unless the ladyboys are still propagating. When you have a rural village that is producing 50% ladyboys from the males born there, it's no accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: Because many have given up the cross dressing etc by the time they are hitting 40 and getting bald but if you look around, they are there, usually quietly existing... in my last condo there was one who never spoke - the other maintenance people were very friendly... it is sad. I have heard the suicide rate among post-op ladyboys is very high, don't know about older ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: It might be genetic, it might be environmental. Although I would have thought genetic would run into the law of diminishing returns. Unless the ladyboys are still propagating. When you have a rural village that is producing 50% ladyboys from the males born there, it's no accident. never heard of such a place? but I assume you have - but, I would think because villages tend to be family and extended family, there would be a genetic component - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: I have heard the suicide rate among post-op ladyboys is very high, don't know about older ones. like dentists - also sad... interesting point of inquiry might be life span? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: never heard of such a place? but I assume you have - but, I would think because villages tend to be family and extended family, there would be a genetic component - right? Quite possible, I don't exclude it. The village I know of is south of Lamphun, can't remember its name. BTW, the missionary thing was a joke, Joyce. Edited May 17, 2021 by Lacessit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covidiot Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I have heard the suicide rate among post-op ladyboys is very high, don't know about older ones. I'd be curious to know more about that phenomenon. It must take some 'psychological issues' to mutilate your body in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrunchWrapSupreme Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: they often tend to be tall and trim... I think they are born that way Long legs, curves in the right places. Stunning bodies, and knowing exactly how to flaunt them, given they were once men who knew what they wanted. I'd be lying if I said that wasn't attractive, sexually attractive femininity, and honestly believe most guys would be too. Some, of not most of them you must admit, are more attractive than most who were born as women. Sure, I gave them a try when I first got here. Sexy and fun times were to be had. But once one gets past the partying, it becomes clear that stable, long term relationships with them are difficult and rare. Much has been written on the subject, so I'll humbly attempt to sum it up with my take, mostly that their lives are a lot more complicated than most others. This is given their difficult position in society, the controversy it stirs, even in this society that's more accepting of them than most. There's their typical ties to the sex industry, wreaking havoc on their perception of relationships, as it does for anyone in the industry, with "real" jobs being more out of reach to them than to others. Then there's the constant partying, in seeking an escape from such stress, and for acceptance and validation, then finally their hormonal therapy, with its effects on mood and behavior. I've since been happily married, but must admit, some of those LBs left me with some cherished memories. I feel for them and their plight. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Chance Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) A wife! https://www.thethaiger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Dane-marries-Thai-ladyboy-without-‘checking-gender’.jpg Edited May 17, 2021 by Don Chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: I've seen some ladyboys that are stunningly beautiful, others less so. Never been interested in experimenting with them, I'm so hetero I only recently graduated from the missionary position. Given the high percentage of ladyboys that appear to come from certain rural villages, IMO there are environmental factors involved in their conversion from males. I was in Bic C here in Udon today and saw another stunning, smartly dressed female Thai shopper with her lumpen, round-shouldered, plaid shirted, spiky-haired 'tom'. I guess these rural Thai "environmental factors" work both ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Nothing really strange. Ladyboy - a man who is not comfortable with his body and wants to be a girl Gay - a man who is comfortable with his body and don't want to be a girl. Edited May 17, 2021 by EricTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermondburi Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Whatever people are saying about them on this thread, there must be a demand for them as the proliferation of LB friendly venues continues to spread. Someone must like 'em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchis Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, mfd101 said: I am homosexual and a man. My Thai Khmer b/f - 40 years younger - is also a man. Whenever we pass a ladyboy in the street (mostly in BKK when we visit) we always think how aggressive they look, and I think how ridiculous they look (dressed up for a ball at 1100). such a typical thing for an old queen to say.(see what I did there?) Edited May 17, 2021 by orchis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Most importantly: There are 2 kinds of LB's: - The ones that feel they were born in "the wrong body". They usually have regular jobs, lead a normal life and when it comes to conversation, they seem to be more interestig to talk to than the average Thai-Female. They are more "cosmopolitan". =My view only. - The other kind are strictly prostitutes and "work" in a LB Bar environement. A LB "in demand" may have served 5 customers already. At this point (like with any other man), his performance may be lacking. Look before you leap. But all of this sails under: Know the basics about "night-life" in Tourist-Hubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, EricTh said: Nothing really strange. Ladyboy - a man who is not comfortable with his body and wants to be a girl Gay - a man who is comfortable with his body and don't want to be a girl. Yeah but thats old school. Younger people think of such things differently. Queer - who the hail knows! Edited May 17, 2021 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDeCosta Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) If you're sexually adventurous, I don't think that there's anything wrong with the odd ladyboy. It doesn't mean you're gay, it just means that you're drunk and want a bit of variety. Last year, I took a Thai girl that I knew well and a really hot ladyboy with giant boobs back to my room. It was a fantastic experience. Her penis was about the size of a cigarette lighter, so I didn't feel inferior at all. Edited May 17, 2021 by BenDeCosta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said: Long legs, curves in the right places. Stunning bodies, and knowing exactly how to flaunt them, given they were once men who knew what they wanted. I'd be lying if I said that wasn't attractive, sexually attractive femininity, and honestly believe most guys would be too. Some, of not most of them you must admit, are more attractive than most who were born as women. It's the opposite for me. I like Thai women to look like Thai women. The LB's over feminine gestures and 'altered' body parts don't appeal to me in the slightest. Just the same as I'm not keen on hisos with body alterations and skin whiteners etc. That's probably why I've never been tempted to try a LB. Each to their own though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BenDeCosta Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: It's the opposite for me. I like Thai women to look like Thai women. The LB's over feminine gestures and 'altered' body parts don't appeal to me in the slightest. Just the same as I'm not keen on hisos with body alterations and skin whiteners etc. That's probably why I've never been tempted to try a LB. Each to their own though. I have a thing against cosmetic surgery. But I have also met several Thai girls whose "chest" was like 2 grapes on a ironing board, and I must admit that I would have preferred more. They usually wear padded bras to trick you. Edited May 17, 2021 by BenDeCosta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, bangon04 said: Is it true that ladyboys are likely to have a better understanding of the finer points of bjs and hjs? From my modest experience with few dozens of LB and few hundred of real girls, the lb have maybe a better understanding of the finer points, however they are usually not better or worse than the girls when it comes to bj and hj the % of the ones real outstanding at it is the same in the 2 categories and the % of the ones not knowing what they are doing is also the same on average most of them are ok 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingofthemountain Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said: I have a thing against cosmetic surgery. But I have also met several Thai girls whose "chest" was like 2 grapes on a ironing board, and I must admit that I would have preferred more. They usually wear padded bras to trick you. i totally agree these padded bras are a real shame and the girls wearing it should be condemned for false advertising ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saakura Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 hours ago, mfd101 said: I am homosexual and a man. My Thai Khmer b/f - 40 years younger - is also a man. Whenever we pass a ladyboy in the street (mostly in BKK when we visit) we always think how aggressive they look, and I think how ridiculous they look (dressed up for a ball at 1100). People get all confused between the words 'sex/sexual' and 'gender', and between the realities of sexual equipments, sexual preferences and sexual identity. They're all different & they can mix'n match according to taste. Your boyfriend is 40 years younger than you? He must be truly and genuinely in love with you! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDeCosta Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, saakura said: Your boyfriend is 40 years younger than you? He must be truly and genuinely in love with you! In love with the idea of not having to work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 hours ago, RobMuir said: One night after a lot of beer I thought I would see what all the fuss was about and would give it a go. I seriously advice against it. It hurt like buggery. Moved to joke section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingofthemountain Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said: In love with the idea of not having to work. He is actually working even if he has only 1 customer (That's remind me a conversation i had with a young girl pretending to be my GF but asking a montly allowance that was again the end of a nice but short love story lol) Edited May 17, 2021 by kingofthemountain 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BenDeCosta said: I have a thing against cosmetic surgery. But I have also met several Thai girls whose "chest" was like 2 grapes on a ironing board, and I must admit that I would have preferred more. They usually wear padded bras to trick you. I'd rather find 2 grapes on their chest than 2 grapes in their undies ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: Then they wouldn't be called ladyboys? Right? Are they transgenders? Yes, but many refer to transgender persons in Asia as LBs, as a collective word for men who identify as a gender different from their identity at birth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 hours ago, covidiot said: I'd be curious to know more about that phenomenon. It must take some 'psychological issues' to mutilate your body in the first place. True transgenders are not mutilating their bodies, they are affirming their gender, through surgery. Many suicides are caused by not fitting into the heteronormative values held in society, living with discrimination, lack of proper job opportunities, lack of psychological support, depression, anxiety, and other complex issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 10 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: a more interesting question might be a genetic variant as they often tend to be tall and trim... I think they are born that way, nothing environmental about it... IMO more to do with the drugs ( hormones etc ) they take to make themselves female. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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