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Bet it’s the AZ going into her arm how much has she been paid for this publicity stunt  had the PM and government had the Chinese vaccine maybe the public would have taken notice but they to chose the AZ 

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5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I wondered how long it would be before they started rolling out these plastic "celebrities" and "influencers" to promote this Chinese junk.

 

Must be getting desperate. If things get any worse they'll have to start offering it to farang. Perish the thought, that would really get Anutin clutching his pearls.

...clutching his balls?????

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12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Don't believe me? Ask the Chinese themselves.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663

 

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What I do believe is that you don't understand the technical meaning of efficacy. In fact, coronavac is very effective against both symptoms serious enough to require hospitalizations and death. As the case of this town in Brazil clearly demonstrates.

https://brazilian.report/liveblog/2021/05/14/serrana-vaccine-normality/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazilian-towns-mass-vaccination-creates-oasis-of-well-being-11620392401

 

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2 hours ago, peleid said:

If I have to have the vaccination then I will choose which one, thank you

We are talking about the sinovac vaccine here. Good for you that you have a choice, not everyone does. 

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3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

circumstance he blamed on “propaganda [that] said the vaccine was safe for everyone.”

I've not seen media reports anywhere suggesting vaccines were safe for everyone. Pretty daft claim for him to make. Most medications have side effects of some kind.

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1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

If you read your BBC link, it stated that he was misqouted and was only suggesting ways to improve the efficacy of vaccines. 

Actually, he later claimed he had been misinterpreted????

 

Much in the same way it's always a 'misunderstanding' when some official mistakenly lets the truth slip out in Thailand and later has to retract the statement.

 

Try this one for size.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-11/sinovac-shot-cuts-risk-of-symptomatic-covid-in-half-in-key-study#:~:text=Research released Sunday showed the,from 66% to 79%.

 

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27 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The concern for me is the lack of transparency and reliable information. The Astra Zeneca vaccine has been studied and reviewed by multiple responsible and reliable government agencies and scientists in the west. The problems are identified, the risks are known and the solutions provided. Pfizer vaccine has the benefit of ongoing active clinical trial on population of Israel.  What do you know of Sinovac vaccine?

 

The population of Israel is 9 million people, of which only a percentage was fully vaccinated. There are more people in NYC than there is in Israel. So touting israel is a bit of a red herring. But that's neither here nor there, Pfizer , moderna and R&R have been administered to millions of people with statistically insignificant side effects. Of course these side effects are not insignificant to those who get them , but on the aggregate are insignificant.   Same applies to sinovac, though not as widely circulated as the western vaccines yet, it has been administered to many countries around the world with good success. Bloomberg financial news a american conservative institution would not publish information to it'd clients unless the supporting science was solid. There was a big study on cinovac in Indonesia, Brazil, and Chile  with results much better than the lab results.  IMO I think there are politics at play here , with the west using the well known technique of manufacturing ignorance. The west does not want to Chinese vaccine to be accepted because they want to block China from developing more influence around the world.

Below is a very good documentary on how ignorance is manufactured for specific political or economic goals. 

It is produced Deutsche Welle (DW ) a very reputable source. You would be glad you watch it. It explains a lot about the attack on science these days, and it is not a conspiracy theory, everything in it is well documented fact on public record. 

 

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5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually, he later claimed he had been misinterpreted????

 

Much in the same way it's always a 'misunderstanding' when some official mistakenly lets the truth slip out in Thailand and later has to retract the statement.

 

Try this one for size.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-11/sinovac-shot-cuts-risk-of-symptomatic-covid-in-half-in-key-study#:~:text=Research released Sunday showed the,from 66% to 79%.

 

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Did you skip over this part of the article:

"One reason for the low efficacy in the Brazil trial, according to the study’s researchers, was that the two doses of the vaccine were administered at a short interval of 14 days. The researchers noted “a trend to higher efficacy” among a limited number of participants who got their second dose in no less than 21 days."

And, of course, as per usual, you don't address how effective Coronavac is against serious symptoms and death.

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2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The population of Israel is 9 million people, of which only a percentage was fully vaccinated. There are more people in NYC than there is in Israel. So touting israel is a bit of a red herring. But that's neither here nor there, Pfizer , moderna and R&R have been administered to millions of people with statistically insignificant side effects. Of course these side effects are not insignificant to those who get them , but on the aggregate are insignificant.   Same applies to sinovac, though not as widely circulated as the western vaccines yet, it has been administered to many countries around the world with good success. Bloomberg financial news a american conservative institution would not publish information to it'd clients unless the supporting science was solid. There was a big study on cinovac in Indonesia, Brazil, and Chile  with results much better than the lab results.  IMO I think there are politics at play here , with the west using the well known technique of manufacturing ignorance. The west does not want to Chinese vaccine to be accepted because they want to block China from developing more influence around the world.

Below is a very good documentary on how ignorance is manufactured for specific political or economic goals. 

It is produced Deutsche Welle (DW ) a very reputable source. You would be glad you watch it. It explains a lot about the attack on science these days, and it is not a conspiracy theory, everything in it is well documented fact on public record. 

 

Coronavac is very effective against serious illness and death which is the most important thing a vaccine can do. It's not so good at preventing transmission of the virus, though. 

As for the israeli studies, Israel has a population of slightly over 9 million people, so actually more people than NYC. Not that it's significant. But that is a huge number for a study. And the results for Pfizer are outstanding.

Covid-19: Pfizer BioNTech vaccine reduced cases by 94% in Israel, shows peer reviewed study

 

The Pfizer BioNTech coronavirus vaccine produces as good results in the “real world” as have been previously documented in randomised trials.

A case control study, which has been peer reviewed and published in the New England Journal of Medicine, compared 596 618 people who were newly vaccinated in Israel and matched them to unvaccinated controls.1 Two doses of the mRNA vaccine reduced symptomatic cases by 94%, hospitalisation by 87%, and severe covid-19 by 92%, according to the data from the Clalit Institute for Research which is Israel’s biggest healthcare provider.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n567

 

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19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually, he later claimed he had been misinterpreted????

 

Much in the same way it's always a 'misunderstanding' when some official mistakenly lets the truth slip out in Thailand and later has to retract the statement.

 

Try this one for size.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-11/sinovac-shot-cuts-risk-of-symptomatic-covid-in-half-in-key-study#:~:text=Research released Sunday showed the,from 66% to 79%.

 

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 I assumed you know the technical difference between efficacy and effectiveness. Sinovac is highly effective in the real world. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-s-sinovac-shot-found-highly-effective-in-real-world-study

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10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Did you skip over this part of the article:

"One reason for the low efficacy in the Brazil trial, according to the study’s researchers, was that the two doses of the vaccine were administered at a short interval of 14 days. The researchers noted “a trend to higher efficacy” among a limited number of participants who got their second dose in no less than 21 days."

And, of course, as per usual, you don't address how effective Coronavac is against serious symptoms and death.

 

It only increased to 62.7% at 3 weeks. Compared to 97% for Pfizer.

 

It's consistently been shown to be the least effective of all the vaccines. It's also produced by a corrupt, totalitarian regime that makes Russia look as pure as the driven snow. If you want that junk in your body then be my guest, but don't expect others to ignore the real data from outside the CCP.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/11/chinese-vaccines-effectiveness-low-official-admits

 

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She has just lost a bit of credibility with this promotion of Sinovac, and if the general public finds out she was acting under the influence of certain not liked people, then she will have a fallout and be ostracized the same as a certain head figure of the band Carabou has just been. The people are quite divided here now. I tend to like Thailand's Miss Universe and really only want and will try to wait for Moderna or Psfizer at all costs. 

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