Popular Post webfact Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 By Adam Judd Pattaya, Thailand-Today, June 10th, 2021, marks a full two months since Covid-19 restrictions were enacted in the Chonburi (and Thailand) area, causing hundreds of businesses to be force closed and essentially stopped domestic tourism that had been assisting Pattaya “survive” with a lack of foreign tourists due to border closures. Pattaya is a city that relies almost entirely on tourism for their GDP, with an estimated 80% of the local GDP coming from tourist dollars, both domestic and foreign. In 2019, the city was the 19th most visited city in the world with almost ten million foreign tourists and roughly seven million domestic tourists. Covid-19 restrictions and measures, however, like many tourist reliant places, have brought the city to essentially a standstill. Although ex-pat and local resident heavy areas like the “dark side” and parts of Jomtien are fairly “normal” Central Pattaya and the economic driver of the area has been devastated by the closures and restrictions, with no sign of relief in sight. Pattaya is a city that relies heavily on nightlife and entertainment, which has been shuttered under a national order by the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration, or CCSA. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/10/today-marks-two-months-of-covid-19-restrictions-in-pattaya-with-many-business-owners-and-residents-getting-frustrated/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-06-11 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 By coincidence it was about 2 months ago the CCSA announced the peak had passed so give it a year or 2 and it will be back to normal ???? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterBaker Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 maybe it's time to tell people a truth: it will not get better this year, stop dreaming... 31 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Could go on for a few more months before gearing up for the awesome promising Pattaya sandbox in October. Edited June 10, 2021 by bkk6060 2 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, MasterBaker said: maybe it's time to tell people a truth: it will not get better this year, stop dreaming... The truth... my god man, that's asking so much. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atpeace Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MasterBaker said: maybe it's time to tell people a truth: it will not get better this year, stop dreaming... In all seriousness, after the current lockdown, I was not hearing anyone say the it would be back to normal this year. I wasn't hearing much of anything from official sources which is frustrating but I think most just used common sense. Has to be beyond frustrating to be a business owner in Pattaya. Know a couple young Thais that started or took over businesses in the last few years. Heart goes out to them and hopefully their businesses survive but at some point I fear they will throw in the towel. Edited June 11, 2021 by atpeace 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, atpeace said: In all seriousness, after the current lockdown, I was not hearing anyone say the it would be back to normal this year. I wasn't hearing much of anything from official sources which is frustrating but I think most just used common sense. Anutin said it will all be back to normal in 2 to 3 weeks, back in late April. However as you say only those with common sense said nothing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Anutin said it will all be back to normal in 2 to 3 weeks, back in late April. However as you say only those with common sense said nothing. Cool, never read it but sure you are correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 GETTING frustrated?!? They've BEEN frustrated. Those not permanently shuttered, that is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said: GETTING frustrated?!? They've BEEN frustrated. Those not permanently shuttered, that is. ? yep, I used present tense not future in regards to the frustration ( "has to be" and "is). Anyhow, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 This clearly demonstrates the risks that are associated with a single large dependency on once source of revenue - tourism. Entire local economies are impacted. If you invest in an area (business, real estate) this is a clear lesson in what happens when that source dries up. It will happen again in the future. make sure your business is not reliant on a single source of revenue - period. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said: This clearly demonstrates the risks that are associated with a single large dependency on once source of revenue - tourism. Entire local economies are impacted. If you invest in an area (business, real estate) this is a clear lesson in what happens when that source dries up. It will happen again in the future. make sure your business is not reliant on a single source of revenue - period. Soothing words for the many tens of thousands of simple economically unsophisticated people who have watched their small businesses and livelihoods collapse because of arbitrary decisions taken by salaried officials who will still receive their salary come what may. Did you offer to assist these people by drawing maps of the best route back to their farms? 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maddermax Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 With apologies to MasterBaker ........ Everything I like is either illegal, immoral or fattening, or a permutation of all three! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagull Sam Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Dark side or not, village girls produce mouths to feed. Without any real semblance of democracy arbitrary decisions will be made. (Slightly more arbitrary than those in the west at least). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guderian Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Announcing that the bars and entertainment venues in Phuket will remain closed for the July 1st sandbox startup is not a good sign for Pattaya. With the seemingly constant +/-2,000 new cases every day, it's not difficult to translate that announcement as implying the bars in Pattaya will remain closed when foreign tourists start arriving in October, so the earliest reopening might be November or December. They could fix this by simply imposing tough travel restrictions on the greater Bangkok area and letting the rest of the country try and get back to normal, but being a totally Bangkok-centric administration there's no chance of that happening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skorp13 Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 How are places like The Dark Side and Jomtien remotely close to normal and unaffected?? Bars, and entertainment venues, hotels, travel agencies, schools, gyms, pools, etc closed. 7/11, Family Marts closed overnight resulting in a shift lost and more people out of a job, restaurants limited on hours of trade. People out of work, kids being denied an education and social skill development, mental health issues on the rise....yeah it's all good!!!! 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemos Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, atpeace said: In all seriousness, after the current lockdown, I was not hearing anyone say the it would be back to normal this year. I wasn't hearing much of anything from official sources which is frustrating but I think most just used common sense. Has to be beyond frustrating to be a business owner in Pattaya. Know a couple young Thais that started or took over businesses in the last few years. Heart goes out to them and hopefully their businesses survive but at some point I fear they will throw in the towel. Seems like all small cash busineses are clised and 711 is opening more stores Mall are open too .Hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: By coincidence it was about 2 months ago the CCSA announced the peak had passed so give it a year or 2 and it will be back to normal ???? i was there 1970. seemed quite nice fishing village. but nothing to do. ,lot jungle. ,have the fish gone ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangsaenguy Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Military govts demand total control and do not tolerate being questioned 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diks Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, bangsaenguy said: Military govts demand total control and do not tolerate being questioned Hmm, I guess there are a lot of military governments around the world now, because it seems a lot of governments enjoy the new found power. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Three friends of mine got arrested two nights ago at a small bar near Big C Extra. I warned them this could happen and stopped going there myself. I get it - we love the bar owner, just a gal struggling to put food on the table, and we want her to stay in business, but clearly the BiB are getting into the weeds. They were fortunate, 2,250 baht fine each, and now the bar is shuttered. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chalawaan Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 They need to forget tourism for a few years, and start repurposing the entire economy. There are several emerging industrial opportunities as companies are forced to pivot away from a belligerrent China that's starting to "punish" the west for daring to call them on their BS. If they dropped the alcohol import tax to a sensible level too, they'd sell much more of it, and probably actually make more in duty overall. Fully legalize weed, and mushrooms, fully legalize sex work, and start work on some Casinos. So that after this is over, if they did these 4 things, you'd have to beat Tourists off with a stick. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, chalawaan said: They need to forget tourism for a few years, and start repurposing the entire economy. There are several emerging industrial opportunities as companies are forced to pivot away from a belligerrent China that's starting to "punish" the west for daring to call them on their BS. If they dropped the alcohol import tax to a sensible level too, they'd sell much more of it, and probably actually make more in duty overall. Fully legalize weed, and mushrooms, fully legalize sex work, and start work on some Casinos. So that after this is over, if they did these 4 things, you'd have to beat Tourists off with a stick. Agree with most here, but the casinos should never happen, at least not for Thais. They are too superstitious, and if a monk told them it was a lucky day, they'd literally bet (and lose) the farm. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Gray Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Could go on for a few more months before gearing up for the awesome promising Pattaya sandbox in October. Like a wet fa*t of a sand box in Phuket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said: GETTING frustrated?!? They've BEEN frustrated. Those not permanently shuttered, that is. Yes, with the Pattaya whorehouses closed down there are hundreds of thousands of lonely men around the world who rely on paying for sex that have been very frustrated. Tissues and toilet paper was stripped from the shelves. There are also thousands of bargirls who had grown used to receiving a good seeing to several times a day that are also very frustrated. The tension rises everyday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 I know some posters will crucify me for this post. But its all now down to Natural Selection. The Business's that have been able to adapt, to offer different, and not the same same as seen everywhere, will survive and prosper. The Bossiness's that have been able to cut outgoings, and raise their profile will prosper. OK, maybe not next week, but as soon as the Tourists arrive back, these Business's will be ready to welcome them back with something new and fresh. Pattaya needed this badly, and so does the rest of the Country, it needs all the dead wood cutting out. The whole Tourist Industry is stale, its made of Plastic, and is shoddy at best sometimes. Its all so false and tacky, and needs something like this to wake it up, where actual effort has to be made to get the Tourist Dollar. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chalawaan Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Two months? I could have sworn the place has been 95% shuttered since April 2020. You gotta love the way this story just vanishes an entire year of on/off lockdown. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post visacrack Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Lest we forget: What we're going through is not karma, it is political. With different leaders (global - Thailand just follows suit), the decison taking could look very different. I have for quite some while pleaded for a resignation of these inept (to say the least) governments, to be replaced by an executive council consisting of experts in constitutional law, economy, education, and DISSENTER MEDICS. Why? Because the aspects of constitutional liberties, economy and education have so far been missed out. And dissenter medics would tell us that there are different -and probably better ways - to deal with the situation. If you follow the news attentively, then you know/sense that there is so much more to the whole thing than what we are constantly being force-fed... 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: I know some posters will crucify me for this post. But its all now down to Natural Selection. The Business's that have been able to adapt, to offer different, and not the same same as seen everywhere, will survive and prosper. The Bossiness's that have been able to cut outgoings, and raise their profile will prosper. OK, maybe not next week, but as soon as the Tourists arrive back, these Business's will be ready to welcome them back with something new and fresh. Pattaya needed this badly, and so does the rest of the Country, it needs all the dead wood cutting out. The whole Tourist Industry is stale, its made of Plastic, and is shoddy at best sometimes. Its all so false and tacky, and needs something like this to wake it up, where actual effort has to be made to get the Tourist Dollar. I agree with you, except the bit where the deadwood will be cleared out. Like cockroaches, they would survive a Nuclear holocaust, they will be back as soon as the punters return. A lot of ramshackle Thai owned businesses start and run on either loan shark, or laundry money. The $64 million question is kind of chicken and egg tho, no tourists, no incentive to start or re-start a tourist centric business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimBKK Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, chalawaan said: They need to forget tourism for a few years, and start repurposing the entire economy. There are several emerging industrial opportunities as companies are forced to pivot away from a belligerrent China that's starting to "punish" the west for daring to call them on their BS. If they dropped the alcohol import tax to a sensible level too, they'd sell much more of it, and probably actually make more in duty overall. Fully legalize weed, and mushrooms, fully legalize sex work, and start work on some Casinos. So that after this is over, if they did these 4 things, you'd have to beat Tourists off with a stick. Sounds good to me (realizing this is a fantasy at best) but not sure the junta wants *that* type of tourist. Millionaires or bust is their attitude, unbelievably ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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